Ok, why did TPTB name her "Vache", which, in French (seeing that Picard is French) means "cow"?
Other than that, Risa looks like a great place for a vacation; sort of like 'Planet Sexia' (Justice) but without the messed up justice system ;-)
The Federation had better not let anyone else get their hands on that planet though - just imagine what the Romulons or the Klingons or the Cardies or the Borg would do to the place...
Ok, ok - she's actually named 'Vash'. However, it is pronounced the same way so as far as I'm concerned the point still remains.
That reminds me of a Polynesian missionary in Panama whose last name was "Lavaka", which of course sounds exactly like "la vaca", "the cow"...
The bit with the Horga'hn was funny, but did the writer slip in a bit of irony, as well? This device is supposed to signal that you want sexual relations, but everyone pronounces it "Whore gone."
Worf suggests sending a security officer with the Captain for protection. How ironic that in the DS9 episode Let He Who Is Without Sin... Worf would be the threat to Risa.
Compare the teeth of Sovak to the teeth of Rom of DS9, it looks like the prop department is recycling. (I know the same actor played both parts, but Nitpickers are not supposed to deal in reality.) What are the odds that two different Ferengi would have an identical space in the upper teeth of his left side with a long tooth in the lower teeth also on his left side.
Vash and Picard are lying in their sleeping bags talking. The camera on Vash indicates that they are approximately level with each other, but the camera on Picard shows him looking down at her.
Vash plans to sell the Uthat and make a profit, but in the DS9 episode In The Cards Jake says that Humans don't have money?
Near the end of this episode Vash reveals to Picard (or Picard guesses) that she is going to Sarthong V to `acquire' an archeological artifact and I believe all that Picard does is say something like, be careful. In Qpid Vash reveals that she did indeed steal that object. Now Picard is a representative of the Federation and a captain in Starfleet and several episodes have touched on his ambassadorial skills, so wouldn't you think that he would be morally, ethically, and even legally, bound to report, first, a planned crime, then later an admitted crime, to the proper authorities?
Why don't the Vorgons go back in time to dig up the Tox Uthat before Vash and Picard do? Three possible reasons.
One, they don't know where it is. Honest, it's a valid statement. The Vorgons did not know where the Uthat was before. They only found out by following Picard, but if they go to the sight and dig it up before Vash digs it up. Picard will never know where it was and if Picard doesn't know where it is, they will never be able it find it. In essence, by digging it up before Picard knows where it is. they will erase their own memories of where it is and probably get stuck in a causality loop like the one seen in Cause And Effect.*
Two, the Vorgons don't like to dig or are unable to dig because they can't bend over. (Do you remember them bending over once in this episode?)
Three, now it's been a while since I saw this episode, so I can't remember if the Vorgons confessed to being crooks or not, but what if the Vorgons were the good guys, pretending to be bad guys? They know Picard is supposed to destroy the Uthat, they come back to ensure that he does and afterward they monitor the location of the Uthat to keep anyone else from digging it up before Vash does.
*Actually there is a way to get around my first theory. Now that the Vorgons know where the Uthat was buried, they return to their time, make a copy of the Uthat, go back in time, dig up the real Uthat and bury the fake one. That way Vash will have something to dig up and Picard can have something to destroy. There would be no way for Vash and Picard to know it was a fake, because the only way to test it would be to turn off a star.
Keith Alan Morgan: The bit with the Horga'hn was funny, but did the writer slip in a bit of irony, as well? This device is supposed to signal that you want sexual relations, but everyone pronounces it "Whore gone."
Luigi Novi: LOL!! Good point! It should've been called a Horgetyorassoverhere.
KAM: Vash plans to sell the Uthat and make a profit, but in the DS9 episode In The Cards Jake says that Humans don't have money?
Luigi Novi: As did Kirk in ST IV and Picard in ST First Contact, and we not only beat that horse to death, but danced on its grave and pissed on its headstone. I'll make this succint:
1. Maybe they meant money in its 20th century paper and coin form, as opposed to the "credits" they mentioned in Explorers(DS9).
2. Maybe they don't, but the Ferengi do have money.
HMMM. I see Bill "Fredrick's of Hollywood" Theiss had a field day in this episode. I just LOVE that one pan & scan shot of the woman laying in the sun. Yummy!
• What was Vash's point in kissing Picard? What kind of distraction tactic was it supposed to serve? She collides with him (in a hackneyed television fashion), spots Sovak, and then plants one on Picard and all Sovak can do is look away like he is shocked.
If Sovak lusts for Vash, if she took money from him and holds the disk which he claims is rightfully his, then why did Sovak become deterred by Vash kissing? Why didn't he confront her right then and there (besides there being a shorter show and giving Picard a greater comprehension early on)? The kiss may have been the extent of Picard's encounter given the series of events until Vash in convenient proximity observes him slamming his book shut and standing up to Picard. Did Vash plan this from the start? Making Picard Sovak's rival for her attention?
• I saw an Andorian serving as alien filler. She looks like she was the Andorian finalist in Lal's selection for her android appearance. ("The Offspring")
• The Risan woman with Picard says she fears she has not yet mastered the art of hoverball. Sounds funny considering the ball came back on the verbal command "Return!" If she's not commanding the ball, it seems reasonable that the ball will drift. This was supposed to be an incidental ploy for her to present herself to Picard whom she believed was seeking jamaharon.
• Picard tells the woman he wants to sit in the sun to read his book... alone. Then Sovak casts a shadow over Picard and Picard says, "You're blocking the suns!"
• If Sovak gave payment to Vash to steal the disk for him previously, which she did not give him, then why does he offer Vash another payment -- her weight in gold -- for the same disk?
• When Picard and Vash embark on the search for the Uthat, she was wearing the backpack. When Sovak holds them by phaserpoint, she tosses him the backpack so that Picard can grab the phaser and punch Sovak to sleep. When Vash recovers the backpack, she hands it to Picard and he puts it on. What if Picard was wearing the backpack all along? Then he would've had to come up with that distraction tactic.
There once was a man called Vorgon
Who acquired himself a Horga'hn
But in keeping his clothes on
He couldn't receive jamaharon
Then away was the whore gone
The kiss may have been the extent of Picard's encounter given the series of events until Vash in convenient proximity observes him slamming his book shut and standing up to Picard.
D'OH! That was supposed to be Picard standing up to SOVAK.
What was Vash's point in kissing Picard? What kind of distraction tactic was it supposed to serve? She collides with him (in a hackneyed television fashion), spots Sovak, and then plants one on Picard and all Sovak can do is look away like he is shocked.
I think it was too hard for Sovak to recognise Vash this way. Kissing couples are rather common on Risa and he probably never saw her from behind doing this, especially if she was travelling alone. This tactic is used very often.
This tactic is used very often.
In fiction, anyways...
Alas, I've never had a good looking woman that I don't know just kiss me to distract a confederate.
ScottN,
maybe you hang out at the wrong places? How often have you been to Risa?
Or perhaps Sovak didn't want to interupt anything figuring that Picard would get violent if he •••• blocked him.
Alas, I've never had a good looking woman that I don't know just kiss me to distract a confederate.
Me neither but I did have a good looking (early 20s) woman who I had never met before come up and kiss me because she and her friend had a bet about kissing a guy who was under 18 and she figured I was, even though I was really 20 at the time.
Jennifer Hetrick can kiss me anytime!
Alas, I've never had a good looking woman that I don't know just kiss me to distract a Confederate.
[Insert Civil War joke here]
That's not the real Tak'u'Tat. Porthos ate the real one.
FASHION ALERT: This episode marks the first time we see a bikini in "Star Trek"
No it wasn't!!!
We saw some in "Futures End"(VOY)...
Which took place BEFORE "Captain's Holiday" TNG
But "Captain's Holiday" was AIRED before "Future's End" (I know, pick pick pick)
John A. Lang, you wouldn't dare step into reality?!!
hey too many JOhna s here
Hmmm. Rom's cousin seems to be on Risa on vacation pursuing Vash. Nah....just the same actor.
Jennifer Hetrick makes her first of three appearances as Vash. She made just ONE appearance as Mrs. Walter Skinner on "The X-Files," however.
During the Vorgon's last appearance, Picard uses his Combadge to destroy the Tox Uhtat by using Emergency Transporter Order 14. The Tox Uhtat is destroyed along with the Combadge.
HOWEVER,
When Picard is saying "Goodbye" to Vash...guess what? He's wearing a Combadge!
Did he pack another Combadge?
I guess that Starfleet Officers just feel naked without them!
I hope all the resorts on Risa don't have the lax security that the one Picard went to did. Can anyone just ask the resort computer about the location and status of any guest? Apparently Sovak also gained entry into Vash's room easily enough, without alerting any authorities. I noticed this after watching Dateline the other night and watching how easily their security consultant breached hotel security.
Did he pack another Combadge?
Possibly, in case of loss or theft. Or maybe the Enterprise beamed him another one.
If Sovak gave payment to Vash to steal the disk for him previously, which she did not give him, then why does he offer Vash another payment -- her weight in gold -- for the same disk?
That one does make a bit of sense. If someone steals from you, first you'd like to get it back for nothing; but if it looks like there's no way of that happening than paying a ransom would be worth it, provided the ransom is worth less to you than the stolen object. Epically if you are a criminal yourself and can't exactly go to the police.
One has to wonder why Vash didn't Take Sovak up on his offer? she could have let him buy the disk for her weight in gold, give him the disk and let him search in vain. meanwhile she skips off with the Utat, and a generous sum of Gold. by the Time Sovak gave up digging for it Vash could have been on the other side of the federation. I am sure he would have fallen for it, it is not like they made him the most intelligent character in all the galaxy.
I'm surprised they got away with a term like "Hor'gahn" for a woman that could be used for sex.
There were too many 'gons' in this story for me-- Hor'gahn, Vorgon, and Estragon.
Sovak shoots his phaser up into the cave ceiling and nothing happens? No rocks shatter from the strike? I guess the beam simply melted the ceiling on the spot.
I still laugh at Picard's reply to the Hor'gahn lady, "Oh, someone you love?"
"I wouldn't go that far!"
Riker would be relieved!
But talk about a missed opportunity and a drastic difference in the characters of Picard and Kirk! Kirk definitely would have taken her up on her offer! Heck, Scotty or McCoy probably would have!
She offers herself to Picard...But Picard just wants to read? Sheesh!
A Hor'gahn is a ritual statuette, Steve. Not a woman.
As for not taking Joval's offer, well, maybe he doesn't want a woman who would only be with him because she's employed to. Not exactly an unusual attitude among men who choose not to patronize such experts.
Hor'gahn is what Riker said after she left
Luigi - "A Hor'gahn is a ritual statuette, Steve. Not a woman."
True, but the statue is meant to attract someone for what appears to be sexual contact, so the portion of the word, 'Hor' is too much like 'whore', as far as I'm concerned.
After all, that woman wasn't offering her services for a game of checkers or a conversation about the weather! 