The Loss

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: NextGen: Season Four: The Loss
Troi loses her empathic powers.

Ensign Brooks................Kim Braden
Ensign Allenby..............Mary Kohnert
Guinan..........................Whoopi Goldberg
By Erin on Friday, September 15, 2000 - 11:07 am:

It's a minor point, but at the end, Troi tells Riker, "Oh, and the next time you call me aristocratic...". Man, I wish "aristocratic" was the worst thing I'd ever been called.


By margie on Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 11:50 am:

Maybe it means something else on Betazed?


By ScottN on Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 11:59 am:

I think she means, "Don't you dare say I'm just like my mother!"


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Wednesday, July 25, 2001 - 4:22 am:

Picard orders "All stop.", then Ensign Allenby comments that they have resumed moving, but in space isn't some movement to be expected?

Picard tells Troi that most captains have to depend on Human counselors. With all the races in the Federation, why are most Ship's Counselors Human? (And Troi is half Human herself.)

Why does Ensign Cabbagehead, I mean Allenby, have to ask what a Cosmic String is? Doesn't Starfleet consider Cosmic Strings to be Navigational Hazards?

Why does Picard think that a photon torpedo in the path of the 2-dimensional creatures, would be effective when those exploding out of plane had no effect? Think about it . The creatures have width and depth, but no height. An explosion expands outward from the point of explosion. The explosion in plane had no surface to act upon, because the creatures have no height, while the out of plane explosions hit the creatures full on their width and depth. Picard was just guilty of thinking 3-dimensionally.

In the NextGen Guide II on page 268, ironically in the section that Phil begins, "To avoid any possible misinterpretation...", there is a mistake in the last sentence he wrote, "If the string travels at a constant speed toward the string,..." I think he meant to write, `If the ship travels at a constant speed toward the string,...'

If the creatures' emotions were so intense, then why didn't Troi sense them long before the ship encountered them?

Isn't it remarkable that the Enterprise was traveling in exactly the same plane as the creatures?

If the creatures were 2-dimensional then why did they travel the way they did? Wouldn't it be more likely that they would travel in such a way as to actually be able to 'see' each other. If they only had width and depth, but no height, then wouldn't they only be able to see what's above and or below them, but not what's beside them in the same plane?


By John A. Lang on Friday, September 06, 2002 - 7:39 pm:

NANJAO: I thought the scene in which Troi broke down & cried on Riker's shoulder to be very moving.


By John A. Lang on Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 4:26 am:

GREAT SFX: The Cosmic String Fragment was very well done.


By Randomia on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 1:43 pm:

Ensign Brooks does a worse job at hiding her accent than Ewan MacGregor in "The Island". Seems kind of narrowminded that she had to be Americanized. This is the 24th Century!


By Joel Croteau (Jcroteau) on Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 7:51 pm:

Should Counselor Troi be talking about her patients' private therapy with just anyone she comes across? At one point, she talks to Captain Picard about how she's been counseling Ensign Brooks on her inability to deal with the death of her husband. Isn't this confidential information? Is it not really really really really bad for a counselor to discuss this with someone else without their permission?


By LUIGI NOVI on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 5:19 pm:

Yeah, Troi has a history of that. She does similar things in The Schizoid Man and Loud as a Whisper.


By Chris Booton (Cbooton) on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 11:04 pm:

As well as in Hollow Pursits.


By LUIGI NOVI on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 1:16 am:

Yeah, really. Riker was the one who stormed into the holodeck, but Troi was the one who insisted they not deactivate the program so they could get a glimpse into Barclay's problems.


By KAM on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 1:27 am:

Would the fact that she is not in private practice, but instead is a member of the command staff affect this?

Also an argument could be made that as captain Picard has a right to know of potential problems with crewmembers.


By LUIGI NOVI on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 1:48 am:

Yes, but she shouldn't be broadcasting them to others. Confidentiality should still apply.


By KAM on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 2:36 am:

Okay. It'd been a while since I'd seen any of those episodes & didn't remember those scenes.


By Josh M on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 12:28 am:

Not one of my favorites. Sorry, John .


quote:

KAM: If the creatures were 2-dimensional then why did they travel the way they did? Wouldn't it be more likely that they would travel in such a way as to actually be able to 'see' each other. If they only had width and depth, but no height, then wouldn't they only be able to see what's above and or below them, but not what's beside them in the same plane?




Hard to say seeing as we don't really have an idea of how they perceive the universe or each other.


By Josh M on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 12:35 am:


quote:

Luigi Novi: Yeah, Troi has a history of that. She does similar things in The Schizoid Man and Loud as a Whisper.




What did she do in Loud as a Whisper?


By Don F (TNG Moderator) (Dferguson) on Monday, August 03, 2009 - 9:06 am:

when they introduce the cosmic string, they announce it as being "only 108 meters long" , now I don't have the specs on the Enterprise's size but I thought it was more then 100m from top to bottom and I thought was somewhere in the neighborhood of 800m long. However in all subsequent shots it looks positively massive in relation to the enterprise.


By Luigi_novi (Luigi_novi) on Monday, August 03, 2009 - 10:43 am:

JoshM: What did she do in Loud as a Whisper?
Luigi Novi: In the teaser of that episode, she publicly announced to everyone the troubling emotions he was feeling, rather than discussing them with him or Picard in private.


By Luigi_novi (Luigi_novi) on Monday, August 03, 2009 - 10:45 am:

The Enterprise-D is 641 meters long, according to the Encyclopedia.


By Don F (TNG Moderator) (Dferguson) on Monday, August 03, 2009 - 11:05 am:

Thanks Luigi. So the Enterprise is over 6 times as long as this thing according to the dialog. yet according to the visuals you could few a few Enterprises in that thing and have room to spare.


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