Two pronunciation slips in this episode:
The Cardassian Gul introduces himself as a "Car-DAY-ssian", and during the same scene Picard pronounces the name of Ro's species as "Ba-JAA-rans" (this always cracks me up as it sounds like he has a Cornish accent!)
When Ro takes off her uniform shirt to give it to the little girl, we never see her remove her com badge, or place it on her undershirt. Yet we see the badge on her undershirt right away, when they cut to the shot of her face.
In Ro's initial meeting with Picard in his ready room, she claims that many Bajorans use the European word order for their names in order to "assimilate better."
Given that at least about a third of human civilizations use the opposite (i.e., Bajoran) word order of "family name first," there seems to be a tad bit of Ameri-/Eurocentricity in the dialogue.
Also, does it really make sense for Renassiance Man Picard, someone whose main hobby is archaeology, would not be aware of Bajoran word order for personal names? Surely it would have been part of whatever briefing he got from Starfleet prior to the mission.
Throughout the show Bajorans are referred to as "the Bajora."
The Bajoran ship is Antares class. Since when do Bajorans name the class of their ships after Earth names for stars?
The route from Orta's planet to Velo II passes by Cardassian space by 13,400 kilometers. First of all, just what is the shape of the Cardassian Empire's border? Secondly, if Orta's planet and Velo II are that close to Cardassian space why haven't the Cardassians taken them over?
On page 286 of the NextGen Guide, Phil wondered why the Cardassians want to kill Orta, since his ships don't have warp capability. 1. They could want to execute him for past crimes, not possible future ones. 2. Maybe they don't know his ships lack warp drive? 3. Perhaps the Cardassians are just meanies?
On page 303 of the NextGen Guide II, Phil wondered why Ro wears her earring opposite all other Bajorans. On Earth some Christian groups make the sign of the cross by moving their hands up, down, left to right, while others do it up, down, right to left. Perhaps Ro belongs to a small group who believe the earring should go on the left ear instead of the right?
Where is the A.C.L.U. when Ro is forced to remove her earring? You'd think with I.D.I.C. being a part of the Federation, they'd allow it.
This episode will serve as part of the story behind the movie "Insurrection"
Espicaly considering they let Worf wear his klingon sash while in uniform.
Not to mention the fact that Uhura usually wore earrings with her uniform, and Crusher wore an antique 20th century analogue watch.
It's Riker who's the problem.
"Oh look at me. How tough I am!"
Throughout the show Bajorans are referred to as "the Bajora."-KAM
Funny, I always thought "The Bajora" was the name of the terrorist group, like Al-Queda. I think they are referred to as BajoraN several times.
I may very well be wrong, but that's my interpretation of it.
Gee...it looks like someone from Dr. Timicin's planet (Half A Life) moved to Bajor & bred Ensign Ro. Her resemblence to Timicin's daughter is uncanny!
Frank Collison (Dolak) moved on to completely different things by playing the nebbish post guy, Horace, on "Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman." Apparently feeling his career needed another twist, he played Death during a run on the soap "Passions" in 2003.
Does anyone know what this "incident" that they were talking about that Ro was involved in was?
According to Memory Alpha:
"One of Laren's early assignments was aboard the USS Wellington. During that assignment in the mid-2360s, Laren was a member of the disastrous away team mission to Garon II. During the mission, Laren disobeyed direct orders on the mission, causing the deaths of the eight other officers. Laren was court martialed for her actions and refused to speak in her defense. With little alternative, the court found Laren guilty and sentenced her to imprisonment in the stockade on Jaros II."
When Ro takes off her uniform shirt to give it to the little girl, we never see her remove her com badge, or place it on her undershirt. Yet we see the badge on her undershirt right away, when they cut to the shot of her face.
This may be intentional. The creators were aiming for a seamless removal effect with Ro's jacket, so theoretically the jacket could have opened up a front seam, opened around the communicator and closed back up again.
(of course, besides all the other nits opened up, this is generally rather a weak effect.)
Phil already caught one of the nits I was going to mention in his second TNG Guide, the fact that we do not see the spacedock in the observation lounge windows, but this Cardassian virus of the admiral's is very strange. When he first appears he is sneezing and quite conjested, but by the end of the meeting with Picard he is neither. Perhaps ginger tea with honey should be sent to Cardassia, if it is as effective with them. I believe the first time I saw this ep I thought "who didn't see that coming" about the ending and the admiral.
Also, that Orta guy looked/sounded familar. Was he in ST other times, or elsewhere?
Check imdb.
Throughout the show Bajorans are referred to as "the Bajora."
I believe Picard also does this in Emissary when speaking to Sisko. Perhaps TPTB hadn't decided what the plural was for Bajoran yet.
The Bajoran ship is Antares class. Since when do Bajorans name the class of their ships after Earth names for stars?
Perhaps they purchased the vessel from a third party. This could be likely since the Bajorans don't have any shipyards or military bases. Or, 'Antares' may also be a Bajoran word that had been created independently(yeah, kinda dumb explanation)
Or it's like when you find out that your next-door neighbor bought a Suzuki or a Honda. Noboday would says, "Why would Bob name his car with a Japanese name?" 
Yes, buy the new Antares class ship!
Perfect for just flying around the solar system without the expensive hassle of buying dilithium crystals for a Warp core you don't need!
Ah, Ensign Ro. If only we could have had more of her. It would've been interesting. Then again, we never would have gotten Necessary Evil (DS9). Maybe. I guess more appearances on TNG wouldn't really have affected that. Never mind.
quote:Adam Bomb: When Ro takes off her uniform shirt to give it to the little girl, we never see her remove her com badge, or place it on her undershirt. Yet we see the badge on her undershirt right away, when they cut to the shot of her face.
quote:Josh G: Also, does it really make sense for Renassiance Man Picard, someone whose main hobby is archaeology, would not be aware of Bajoran word order for personal names? Surely it would have been part of whatever briefing he got from Starfleet prior to the mission.
quote:KAM: The route from Orta's planet to Velo II passes by Cardassian space by 13,400 kilometers. First of all, just what is the shape of the Cardassian Empire's border? Secondly, if Orta's planet and Velo II are that close to Cardassian space why haven't the Cardassians taken them over?
quote:Rene: It's Riker who's the problem.
"Oh look at me. How tough I am!"
quote:inblacketnight: Also, that Orta guy looked/sounded familar. Was he in ST other times, or elsewhere?
Luigi Novi: Check imdb.
When introducing herself as Ensign Ro, she says that a lot of Bajorans reverse their name order in order to better assimilate. Why is it then that in no subsequent episode, in any incarnation of trek, do we ever see an example of this?
She's probably referring to Bajorans who live in the Federation. Except for Ensign Seto most of the Bajorans who we meet (DS9) are Bajorian citizens. It's like when Koreans come over here to the US they often take on more western names, the ones in Korea don't.
Did I see Michelle Forbes in a new commercial?
When introducing herself as Ensign Ro, she says that a lot of Bajorans reverse their name order in order to better assimilate. Why is it then that in no subsequent episode, in any incarnation of trek, do we ever see an example of this?
We do on DS9. Kira Nerys uses the same form - Kira is her family name, which is why she's called Major Kira, not Major Nerys. This does however lead to many nits in DS9 when people call her Kira in situations when they should be calling her Nerys.
Throughout the show Bajorans are referred to as "the Bajora."
I could be wrong, but I think in DS9 'The Bajora' meant the goverment when it was used. Given that the Bajorians in this episode are refugees the Bajora here probably means what passes for government between the exiled Bajorians. The term was probably used loosely to indicate Bajorians who were not under Cardasian control.
In the discussion about DS9's first episode one of the questions/nits was how or why the Cardassians opted to leave Bajor. Captain Picard gives us a possible explanation in this episode.
While talking to the Bajorians he explains that now the Federation has a treaty with the Cardassians they can try to help the Bajorians through diplomacy. Given that it is also stated, both in this episode and various times in DS9, that Bajor was stripped of anything of value it would make sense if the Cardassians decided that staying on Bajor wasn't worth the risk of a second war with the Federation.
We do on DS9. Kira Nerys uses the same form - Kira is her family name, which is why she's called Major Kira, not Major Nerys. This does however lead to many nits in DS9 when people call her Kira in situations when they should be calling her Nerys.
I mean we never see an example of the name order being assimilated. We always see Bajorans using the family name first, we never see anyone who reversed the names as Ro described. Also, it is not at all uncommon to address someone by their family name only, especially in military situations. Addressing Kira by her her given name would be a gesture of great familiarity that would likely be inappropriate in many situations.
Joel, my point was that while we never see anyone who reversed their names to assimilate with the Federation in all of Star Trek we've only ever met 2 Bajorans who were Federation citizens (Ro & Seto.)
we've only ever met 2 Bajorans who were Federation citizens (Ro & Seto.)
It was never stated that either Ro or Seto were Federation nationals. In fact it doesn't seem that someone has to be a Federation national in order to become a starfleet officer. In The Chase (TNG) it is noted that the Enterprise D had several none-Federation crewmen onboard (although it isn't noted if they were Starfleet personnel or civilians). Later Kira is made a Starfleet officer even though I don't think Bajor was part of the Federation at that time - although I could be wrong about that.
Worf may be a better example, in that he is clearly a Klingon national serving in Starfleet. While it could be argued that he has duel-nationality I really can't see Worf wanting or allowing himself to be anything other than a Klingon national - and certainly during TNG and DS9 it was implied (if not stated) that he wasn't as affected by the judgements of the Klingon high council because he served in Starfleet and lived in the Federation. Not because he was a Federation citizen.
Well my point was that Ro & Seto were the only two who we met who are living in the Federation. All of the others were living on Bajorian worlds or in the Bajorian system, hence we wouldn't expect them to do their names the other way.
Is there any reasons why the Feds can't set up somewhere for the Bajorans to live. Ok Picard said they weren't popular on the worlds they settled on but firstly surely he didn't mean this happened in the enlightened federation and secondly the feds have enough empty or nearly empty planets. The clones from Up the Long Ladder would surely be glad of a race of philosophers and arguments.
Sorry that's philosophers and architects.
In regards to the "Ro-giving-the-little-girl-her-shirt" scene:
In addition to the nit about the communicator, and the issue with there being no seam on the front of the uniform, there is also the simple fact that the Starfleet female uniforms are one-piece! Not a separate jacket and pants. So she would have had to give the girl her pants too!
And as a side-note about the seam: as an ensign, Ro really should have had a seam down the front on the uniform, like all the other ensigns. The only time ensigns ever get a snazzy new "seam-in-back" uniform like the main stars of the show is if they are recurring characters like Wesley or Ro. I guess the Starfleet tailors keep an eye out for promising young ensigns who might go far, and give them the special uniforms.
When asked how far Solarion IV is, Data simply replies 26 minutes. Now, if anyone else had given that answer, you could have assumed they meant 26 minutes at current speed. However, Data is an android and a stickler for procedure and accuracy. That's even one of the main plot points in The Most Toys. He should have explicitely specified the speed as well as the time.
"Ensign Ro" VS All DS9 episodes
A. The nose ridges between the two are different
B. The episode "Ensign Ro" says the Bajorans are "scattered across the sector and have no home-world"...yet DS9 says the Bajorans live on Bajor...which has been established as their home-world.
C. "Ensign Ro": How can their be Bajorans in Starfleet when Bajor is not part of the Federation? (As seen in DS9)
Klingons are not part of the Federation, but we see the odd Klingon in a Starfleet Uniform. I supose it's not required for your home planet to be in the Federation to join Starfleet.
Since Data's homeworld no longer has a population, is it still a part of the Federation?