Ethics

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: NextGen: Season Five: Ethics
After Worf is paralyzed in an accident, he asks Alexander to kill him.

Dr. Toby Russell..................Caroline Kava
Alexander..........................Brian Bonsall
Nurse Ogawa....................Patti Yatsutake
By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Thursday, July 26, 2001 - 4:41 am:

This Thoranide leak could use some examination. Presumably thoranide is some kind of gas leaking from one of the containers, but shouldn't the containers be marked with their contents and shouldn't the location of each container be on some kind of checklist for this cargo bay? ("Captain, we've detected a thoranide leak and we do have containers of thoranide on board, but the Cargo master isn't certain which cargo bay they're in." I don't think so.)
Also the container with the leak is under another container, a container which crushes the leaking container and then falls on Worf. So the contents of the top container are so heavy they can crush an empty container under it? Were the cargo bay personnel afraid that the thoranide container would float away so they stuck a heavy container on top of it? If thoranide is a gas, then why was it in a plastic container instead of some kind of air tank?

The falling container broke seven of Worf's vertebrae and crushed his spinal column, but the container seemed to bounce off of Worf. (As if it were nothing, but a hollow plastic container, hmmm.) I would have expected such an accident to look something like the container hits Worf like he was tissue paper and bounce when it hits the floor. I suppose it would be tough to make it look real without seriously injuring Michael Dorn though, but then I am a nitpicker and I don't deal in reality.

Instead of this genotronic replicator, why not use Worf's last transporter trace to repair his spine? Run him through the transporter like they did Picard in Lonely Among Us and Dr. Pulaski in Unnatural Selection.


By John A. Lang on Thursday, November 07, 2002 - 9:35 pm:

I have a hard time believing that with all the sophisticated equipment on the Enterprise that they don't have a device that can detect the EXACT location of a leaking barrel.
Not to mention LaForge's VISOR! Shouldn't THAT be able to detect a leak? The episode called "Masterpiece Society" seems to think so!


By John A. Lang on Friday, November 08, 2002 - 4:31 am:

TRIVIA: Chip Chalmers (the director) was quoted as saying, "That (Worf's contemplating suicide) was the huge redeeming value to this particular episode, because for the first time we saw Riker & Worf yelling at each other. We saw real tears & real emotions"


By kerriem on Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 6:16 pm:

If the stuff that was leaking was a gas, then it`s entirely on the cards that the leak could`ve been very small, even microscopic, and hence extremely difficult for even sophisticated sensors to find unless somebody got right in up there with the sensor device.


By Merat on Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 8:46 pm:

"Instead of this genotronic replicator, why not use Worf's last transporter trace to repair his spine? Run him through the transporter like they did Picard in Lonely Among Us and Dr. Pulaski in Unnatural Selection."

Because then the creators would have to acknowledge that they used the transporter in such a s-tupid manner and renew their shame.


By John A. Lang on Sunday, November 24, 2002 - 4:49 am:

I certainly hope thoranide is non-toxic. Everyone walks into a room where a gas (possibly lethal) is leaking without a filter mask! If it isn't toxic, they should've been able to locate the gas by sniffing around.

Did Worf sue the Starbase that gave the Enterprise the leaking barrel? He should have. They were responsible. I say that because there is no explanation as to how the barrel was damaged to begin with! So, it came on board like that! Sue, Worf! Sue!


By McNeal from Earth on Friday, June 06, 2003 - 7:29 pm:

Next on Judge Judy, Worf charges Starbase #12345 with gross neg...


Worf: It caused me a lot of stress, and unnecessary humiliation (Something even worse for a Klingon) and I missed several days of work...

Starbase Representative: Well Worf is in charge of Security and that does include Ship and Personal Safety. So Worf should have requested the barrels be stacked differently...

Judge Judy (to Starbase rep.): Isn't there some standard on barrel stacking?

Representative: well yes your hono__

Judge Judy: Quiet, and Don't talk back to...


By LUIGI NOVI on Friday, June 06, 2003 - 11:51 pm:

John, how exactly do you form reasoning like this? How exactly does the lack of any onscreen explanation for the damage to the barrel equate with the responsibility for the damage being laid at a Starbase? Yeah, we don't know where the damage came from. So how can one simultaneously note that there is no explanation for the damage and conclude that it was brought on board with it? For all we know:

-The Enterprise crew put a material in that barrel that that barrel's construction was not rated for.

-The damage occurred during a battle

-Someone was hauling them around and dropped that barrel, but the crease on the barrel didn't occur until later on.

"Lack of explanation" does not equal "It was that way when it came on board."


By John A. Lang on Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 7:19 am:

Somehow I felt a few seconds of explanation of how the barrel was damaged wouldn't have killed the writers. I mean...they are paid per word. More words...more $$$...sounds like a good incentive to me. Plus, it adds realism.


By KAM on Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 8:41 am:

I believe you are confusing magazine writers with scriptwriters, John. Magazine writers are sometimes paid by the word (but sometimes it's a flat fee). Scriptwriters are, I believe, paid by the script, not how many words are in the script.

Also sometimes scenes may be dropped it TPTB feel a show is running long, so maybe the writer did have an explanation, but it got cut? (I don't think that was the case here, but it is a possibility.)


By LUIGI NOVI on Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 11:37 am:

Somehow I felt a few seconds of explanation of how the barrel was damaged wouldn't have killed the writers.
Luigi Novi: But that doesn't mean we can conclude a starbase was responsible. The writers can't explain every single detail that not's significant to the episode's plot or theme, and they don't have to.


By Chris Diehl on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 11:42 am:

This episode would never have happened of they simply used cargo netting. Considering that the Enterprise gets bounced around from time to time, it just makes sense to secure their cargo better. It's true they could use a force field, but if they have a power outage, the force fields would shut off and they'd be back to square one. Another idea would be to transport up whatever substances they need to carry, beaming it into a tank designed to hold it, and beaming it out when the ship reaches its destination. That way, there's no need for boxes and drums that can fall over, and they can carry more stuff in one trip.

I'm not sure how silly it is to use the transporter to restore Worf's spine. As much as it's a deus ex machina, it's been established that transporters work this way, even if it is dumb and lazy. Rebuilding Worf with a working spine has to be a lot easier to do than de-aging Pulaski or rebuilding Picard from energy. It has to be a darn sight easier than turning four people into children and back.

I don't think it's all that great that Worf considers killing himself. Why is there even a conflict about whether or not he should do it? He shouldn't. On the human side, his friends and family would miss him, and he has worth beyond his ability to fight. On the Klingon side, there is no honor in a warrior running from adversity or abandoning his comrades for his own sake.


By LUIGI NOVI on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 8:26 am:

The episode makes it clear that Klingon culture views a warrior's life over when he can no longer be a warrior, and considers ritual suicide an honorable way to die, and not a form of "abandonment."


By LUIGI NOVI on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 6:08 pm:

There was a post here displayed on the Last Day page, but when I clicked on it, it was not here. What happened?


By mr crusher on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 6:19 pm:

they delete my posts anytime i say anything about people posting without acually watching the episode they are posting about.


By dotter31 on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 9:39 pm:

Is there a reason that cargo in the cargo bay could not be secured magnetically?(such cargo that magnetic fields would not affect it)


By LUIGI NOVI on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 10:46 pm:

Crusher: they delete my posts anytime i say anything about people posting without acually watching the episode they are posting about.
Luigi Novi: Ah. Well, that's s.o.p. here, and rightfully so. If someone missed something, and you wish to point it out, can't you do so without the vitriol?


By dotter31 on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 6:20 am:

I don't think your comments in that regard would be deleted if they were not so abrasive. The majority of people who make a mistake simply may not have remembered details correctly so there is no need to make negative comments about it. Why would people intentionally embarrass themselves by making comments about something they had not seen? It is not a requirement that you watch an episode immediately before you make a post to make sure it is right, nor is anyone graded on the accuracy of their posts. We are all human and we make mistakes.


By ccabe on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 10:00 am:

>Is there a reason that cargo in the cargo bay could not be secured magnetically?>

Provided it dosen't contain iron, steel, nickel, cobalt or a similar material. And that is will not be moved. In short: no. (Although, you could alter the gravity generators in the ship.)


By mr crusher on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 2:33 pm:

im sorry about sounding mean, but after 8 or 9 postings in a row of "its been awhile since ive seen this episode but . . ." and then his details are all wrong, it gets alittle old.


By R on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 3:29 pm:

We cant make mistakes when Luigi is around. Its not permitted.


By Polls Voice on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 3:42 pm:

well, we all can't be super smart like you Mr.Crusher.


By mr crusher on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 5:04 pm:

I realize that Polls. :)


By Torque, Son of Keplar on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 6:58 pm:

it's been a while since I've seen the episode, but why didn't Mr. Crusher help get the Enterprise out of the mess it was in?


By mr crusher on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 8:01 pm:

its been about 5 hours since ive seen this episode but it could be because

1)Mr Crusher wasn't in this episode and

2) The Enterprise was never in any "mess" in this episode.


By Torque, Son of Keplar on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 10:26 pm:

Mr. Crusher controls space and time, don't give me he wasn't there excuse...


By Mr Crusher on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 2:28 pm:

at this point in the series he was at Starfleet Academy, not living with the Traveler.


By LUIGI NOVI on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 8:29 pm:

Ah, but he could travel back to this point in the series.....

:)


By Torque, Son of Keplar on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 9:41 am:

NANJAO

Dr. Russel looks a little like Hillary Clinton.


By a1215402176576 on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 5:49 am:

good 1215402176576


By Joel Croteau (Jcroteau) on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 2:21 pm:

This is what spam has been reduced to now, they can't actually sell anything so they think they will make money by posting random numbers.


By Butch Brookshier (Bbrookshier) on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 4:56 pm:

Sad, isn't it?


By John A. Lang (Johnalang) on Thursday, April 21, 2016 - 8:03 pm:

NANJAO: Dr. Russell looks like Hilary Clinton


By Norman Buchwald (Norm) on Friday, September 14, 2018 - 5:58 am:

This episode was done at a time when the medical bureaucracy was challenged during the AIDS epidemic and noble stories of finding different solutions to save a child's life such as Lorenzo's Oil. In that light, Dr. Russell is seen as a hero. Unfortunately, since then, we've had a Dr. Wakefield and I'd see a Mirror Russell creating havoc in the Discovery universe. :P


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Wednesday, May 10, 2023 - 5:23 am:

If I want to see a show about medical ethics, I'll watch ER.

I really didn't care much for this season, they seemed to forget they were doing a science fiction show.


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