Rascals

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: NextGen: Season Six: Rascals
Picard, Ro, Keiko and Guinan are transformed into children.

Guinan.......Whoopi Goldberg
Keiko.....Rosalind Chao
Ensign Ro......Michelle Forbes
Young Picard.......Daviv Tristin Birkin
Young Ro.......Megan Parlen
Young Keiko.......Caroline Junko King
Young Guinan.......Isis Jones
By Nat Hefferman on Tuesday, May 11, 1999 - 12:46 pm:

This episode explains why Riker will never make Captain. Imagine him explaining this to Starfleet Command: "Okay, you let Starfleet's flagship get comandeered by a couple dozen Ferengi in outmoded Klingon ships, and you had to be rescued by a bunch of children?" It's amazing he wasn't drummed out of the service right then and there.


By Nangeloni on Monday, June 28, 1999 - 12:14 am:

Well they obviously thought enough of him to offer him Voyager after this episode (how much you wanna bet they wouldn't be in the Delta Quadrant now?)


By rachgd on Monday, June 28, 1999 - 5:45 am:

What did I miss, Nick?
When did they offer Riker Voyager?
When is that established?
Was it in "Deathwish"?
Why do I not remember it?
How many of these questions can you answer?

Sorry. :-)


By James on Tuesday, June 29, 1999 - 2:05 am:

*****Sigh******* I just love reading Rachel's Posts............. Wish I had answers for you rachgd.


By Alfonso Turnage on Wednesday, June 30, 1999 - 8:14 pm:

I don't think Voyager not being in the Delta Quadrant necessarily means that Riker would be a better captain. I think it does mean that Riker would have followed the prime directive more closely and left the Ocampa to their fates . . . or he might have set photon torpedoes to timed destruct. I take that back, maybe it does mean he'd make a better captain.


By Nick Angeloni (Nangeloni) on Monday, July 26, 1999 - 9:10 pm:

According to Q, he was hoping Riker would take command of Voyager. The way Q said it, he meant Riker was considered before Janeway.


By Padawan Nitpicker on Friday, November 12, 1999 - 3:00 pm:

Does anyone know the real meanings for Riker`s fake technobabble? FTL is faster-than-light, I have some idea about nanoprocessor, but what about mellacortz ramistat, firimantal drive, Hizenframm Terminal etc.?


By Ghel on Thursday, January 27, 2000 - 3:38 pm:

This occurred to me, It probably doesn't fit perfectly here but what the hey. People say Janeway should have used a timer on the photon torpedo in the Voyager premier, but is it truly possible to do so? Granted it should be, but Trek technology is very odd.
Photon torpedos possibly cannot use timers, supercomplex android Data cannot use contractions, EMH programs cannot be copied, power surges cause bridge terminals to consistantly explode, and any damage to the ship causes the warp core ejection system to go off-line.
At least computers are REALLY user friendly.
Is it me or does Riker come close to losing and/or destroying the Enterprise any time he is given command?!?


By Chris Thomas on Friday, January 28, 2000 - 12:23 am:

He seemed to do okay in The Best of Both Worlds.


By Charles Cabe (Ccabe) on Friday, January 28, 2000 - 7:30 am:

He almost flew the ship into the Borg cube. I leave it to you to decide if this is "okay".


By Chris Thomas on Friday, January 28, 2000 - 7:29 pm:

Doesn't fortune favour the bold?


By Chris Thomas on Friday, February 18, 2000 - 10:33 pm:

The young Picard is certainly good at tugging his tunic, doing the "Picard Manoeuvre", just like his older counterpart, isn't he?


By D.K. Henderson on Saturday, February 19, 2000 - 5:22 am:

I think all the kids did a good job, especially the ones portraying Ro and Guinan.

Watching Captain Jean-Luc Picard throw a temper tantrum was priceless. So was his shouting, "Daddy!" and hugging Riker.


By Chris Thomas on Saturday, February 19, 2000 - 9:29 pm:

At the start, when they are beamed from the shuttle, the four all have uniforms too big for them, as they have reverted to children.
But when Picard is changed back at the end, his child uniform doesn't rip and stretch as he becomes an adult again and gets bigger.


By Mark Swinton on Sunday, February 20, 2000 - 8:38 pm:

Most of Riker's fake technobabble paid homage to another science fiction show (according to Larry Nemecek in the "TNG Companion") but I can't remember which.


By Jeremy on Wednesday, March 22, 2000 - 10:53 pm:

Weren't the children dressed in oversized uniforms again before being turned back into adults? I haven't seen this episode in a while, so I'm not 100% sure, but it seems like they were.


By Lea Frost on Friday, March 24, 2000 - 5:53 pm:

But at least these kids didn't inscribe "I was beaten by a bunch of kids" on the Ferengi hull...


By SaRa on Saturday, August 19, 2000 - 10:06 am:

\ Watching Captain Jean-Luc Picard throw a temper tantrum was priceless. So was his shouting, "Daddy!" and hugging Riker.//

I couldn't agree more! I saw this episode for the first time two days ago and I got a really good laugh out of it. Call me pathetic, but I was laughing so hard at the "He's my number one dad," part I actually fell off the couch laughing.

I do have a slight problem with the kid Picard, though: his eyes were much more brown than hazel.


By Charles Cabe (Ccabe) on Sunday, August 20, 2000 - 10:37 am:

That sounds like a credit card ad....

Galaxy-class starship--47 billion credits.

A glass of Romulan Ale at Quark's--4 credits.

Seeing Captain Picard throw a temper tantrum--priceless.

There are somethings money can't buy. For everything else, there's Ferengi Express.


By Spockania on Friday, February 09, 2001 - 11:24 pm:

How come young Picard has hair? It's one thing to make him younger, but to give him hair? Odd.


By Strgzr 47 on Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 5:21 pm:

He has had hair in flashback episodes, such as "Violations" and "Tapestry" as well. Besides, seeing a bald david tristan berkin as picard just wouldn't look quite right...


By Spockania on Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 6:46 pm:

But the transporter isn't really 'de-aging' him to make him younger (as he really was). It's just making him a kid (which is a nit itself, of course, one that would kill the whole episode). Everyone else seems to have similar hair to their adult self, Picard should have no hair like his adult self. He should have been a bald kid...


By Will S. on Monday, July 09, 2001 - 10:17 am:

When young Picard tells Crusher to continue the tests in sickbay, and leaves with Riker, watch Riker's first couple of steps before he turns around; he's so stiff it's like he's doing his Frankenstein impression!
Check out those lame 'seats' that Ro and Guinan have in the shuttle; they're little more than foot stools! There's no back to them, and no seat belts! I pity the passenger that's sitting on one when a shuttle crashes or experiences serious turbulence. Even the Galileo from a century earlier had normal seats.


By J.J. on Sunday, August 12, 2001 - 9:41 am:

Another damned frustrating episode that has the Enterprise continually asking for "status reports" instead of just unleashing a volley of photon torpedos and laser blasts at their enemies. What is up with that? I mean the Ferengi blast the Enterprise like twelve times and Worf just fires back once? Retaliate!!!!


By Boffo97 on Sunday, September 02, 2001 - 2:46 am:

I sent this one into Phil a while back, but just so others can see it:

After the shuttle carrying Picard, Ro, Keiko and Guinan explodes, the Enterprise crew beam pieces of it aboard for analysis. The metal is carbon scored and otherwise appropriately looking like debris from a destroyed shuttle.

What one misses on first viewing is that O'Brien and La Forge have no problems whatsoever handling this debris with their bare hands. One expects that a second after Miles grabs the piece, he should start screaming something about duranium splinters and hotfooting it into Sickbay.


By goog on Sunday, September 02, 2001 - 4:31 pm:

The kid who plays Guinan also plays the younger version of Whoopi G. in the beginning of Sister Act.

Pure fun, this episode.


By Doug B. on Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 1:47 am:

The footage of the Ferengi attacking the Enterprise comes from "Yesterday's Enterprise".

I thought the child who played Ro did a brilliant job, by the way (not to disparage the other kids who did good jobs, but that one stood out to me).

And I did love young Picard's "He's my number one dad" and temper tantrum.


By LUIGI NOVI on Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 11:40 am:

Must be all the Ritalin they give to kids nowadays
One of the somewhat annoying things about NextGen are the innumerable shots of Picard with a blank, or even non sequitiral facial expression in the closing shot of the teaser. Thankfully, this doesn’t seem so prevalent on DS9 or Voyager, but the young actors playing the characters in this episode suffer from this syndrome in this episode. They do a fairly adequate job throughout the episode, but the overly nonchalant manner and facial expressions they exhibit after arriving on the transporter pad in the teaser, after having undergone such a radical, traumatic transformation, are totally unconvincing. The young Picard seems shocked at first, but then his expression soon becomes blank. Ro simply looks down at her feet, and then just stands there doing nothing, as do Keiko and Guinan. Their reaction should be something more along the lines of "AAAAAAHHHHHH!!"
Unfortunately, when Picard ordered Data to "disarm" them, Data started telling them jokes, pouring champagne, and doing card tricks
Data makes a pitiful showing when the two Ferengi beam in right next to him. With his speed, he should have been able to disarm at least one of them.
Yeah, well, that knowledge was in the section of his brain that disappeared when he got shrunk down
I know Picard is only physically twelve in this episode, but even so, with his fighting experience, and his knowledge of how to use an opponent’s weight and inertia against him, he could have put up a better show of force with the diminutive Ferengi that captures him.
Oh God. Don’t tell me Alexander shrunk down some little guy and stuck him in there!
In the episode In Theory(TNG), Data told Geordi that the doors on the Enterprise are programmed to respond to humanoid life forms only. Makes sense. So how is it that the transporter room doors open for Alexander’s toy car?
They were too busy listening to the Mission Impossible theme music
After Picard and Keiko get the phasers from the transporter room, they rush out, and run around a corner, right before the Ferengi they distracted returns. Shouldn’t they have peeked out the door first and held their phasers in a defensible position as they sneaked back?
And you have no idea how much the ticket is for a moving violation on a ship travelling at the speed of light
In Act 5, Picard activates Alexander’s remote controlled car with the comm badge attached to it, bumping it into the Ferengi guard in the transporter room. When it does, we hear the familiar chirp of the comm signal, causing the guard to be transported onto the transporter pad. The only problem is, the comm badge is attached to the rear end of the toy car, not the front end, which is the end that comes into contact with the guard.


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 5:21 am:

Attempting to beam Picard, Keiko, Guinan and Ro off the shuttle, O'Brien says, "There's a 40% drop in mass. I may have lost one of them!" Since he was attempting to beam four people off the shuttle I would say he may have lost one and most of another. (It's not like one of the four was Scotty who I could see as 40% of the total mass.)

Picard believes in going forward, so why does he study Archeology?

With all that computer technology, why is it so easy for intruders to beam on board the Enterprise? Couldn't they add a scrambling frequency to their shields or when sensors detect an unauthorized transporter beam the pattern gets shunted to the transporter buffer?

Why didn't Worf fire when he saw the two Ferengi materializing? He had enough time. (How come we never see anyone firing at a materializing person? Is it considered to be 'cowardly?')

When Riker shut down all command functions, did this deactivate the computer in Data's room?

I know they were going for a sentimental ending, but why wasn't Ro in the Transporter Room with Picard, Guinan and Keiko?

Why did Riker allow the Captain to be the guinea pig for the attempt to restore the four to their adult selves? Isn't this what Ensigns are for?


By Butch the Moderator on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 5:28 pm:

Re:"technobabble paid homage to another science fiction show"
According to the NextGen Guide, it was the Back to the Future movies.


By Lolar Windrunner on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 8:39 pm:

I think we never see anybody fire at a materializing individual because the ACB would deflect the shot. I think this was established in the episode where Riker was blamed for the murder of a scientist on a power station.


By Chris Booton (Cbooton) on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 12:26 pm:

"With all that computer technology, why is it so easy for intruders to beam on board the Enterprise? Couldn't they add a scrambling frequency to their shields or when sensors detect an unauthorized transporter beam the pattern gets shunted to the transporter buffer?"

Also how come starships never seem to have turret guns and stuff like that. In "to the death" , on the of Jem'Hadar mentioned automated weapons. (Also makes we wonder why they dont have security bots like in countless fps games. This is the 24th century after all)

Or why don't they use force fields that can isolate intruders then pump knock out gas into their area (that assumes you want to take them alive, but since this is the federation that's a given)

In the battle I don't get why they didn't try to simply disable the BoP's weapons. I mean a Galaxy class should be able to very quickly disable a B'rel without destroying it. People may complain about Janeway but at least she actually returned fire (even though she did wait too long in some instances , but that was because they could disable their opponent quickly and were trying to solve it peacefully)


By Adam Bomb on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 9:35 am:

One thing I found kind of fun here - David Tristin Berkin as young Picard is constantly straightening his shirt, just like the adult Picard.


By LUIGI NOVI on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 9:53 pm:

The Marlonians must’ve gotten their dining customs from Greece
In the teaser, Picard shows some of the artifacts of ancient Marlonian cookware in his "duffel box" to Guinan, and says they’re "very nearly in perfect condition." They’re in pieces. How is that "very nearly perfect condition?"


By John A. Lang on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 9:46 pm:

GREAT SCENE: Picard's tantrum sequence & Picard running to Riker & embracing him yelling "Daddy!"


By John A. Lang on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 9:53 pm:

BEST LINE: "Crayons can take you where Starships can't" Guinan to Ro. TOO TRUE!


By John A. Lang on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 10:08 pm:

NANJAO: This episode was directed by Adam Nimoy...son of the legendary Leonard Nimoy...who we know as Spock


By Sven of Cloud Nine on Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 4:07 pm:

Crayons can take you where Starships can't

Where would that be, then? The chemist's?


By John A. Lang on Sunday, December 08, 2002 - 3:51 pm:

I can't help but wonder if the ORIGINAL title for this episode was called "The Little Rascals" but changed it due to copyright problems. It's too coincidental to ignore.


By John A. Lang on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 2:51 pm:

I THINK this is the last episode to feature Guinan in the STTNG TV series.


By Darth Sarcasm on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 1:16 pm:

Actually, she was also in Suspicions.


By John A. Lang on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 9:47 pm:

I'll have to watch that one again. Not that I doubt you. That's why I said, "I THINK..."


By Darth Sarcasm on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 9:56 am:

If memory serves, Suspicions is the one where Guinan fakes having Tennis elbow so she could listen to Crusher's story.


By Electron on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 5:46 pm:

Yep.


By John A. Lang on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 7:15 pm:

NOW I remember! Yes! You're right!


By constanze on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 2:04 pm:

Luigi, Yeah, well, that knowledge was in the section of his brain that disappeared when he got shrunk down
I know Picard is only physically twelve in this episode, but even so, with his fighting experience, and his knowledge of how to use an opponent’s weight and inertia against him, he could have put up a better show of force with the diminutive Ferengi that captures him.

It doesn't matter how diminutive the ferengi is, he has a phaser trained on him! Even contemporary self-defense instructors will tell you that trying to disarm someone with a knife is much easier than disarming someone with a gun, because it doesn't need much for the gun to go off. And you stand an even worse chance with a phaser.

BTW, where was it established that picard has fighting experience? I know of Riker doing anbo-jitsu with his father, but was picard ever engaged in hand-to-hand combat and did something like karate? In the first eps. it is established that the captain should stay on the ship, as he is too valuable to risk on away missions, and most battles are between ships (and wit) anyway.

The Marlonians must’ve gotten their dining customs from Greece
? Eh? Could you explain that, please?
In the teaser, Picard shows some of the artifacts of ancient Marlonian cookware in his "duffel box" to Guinan, and says they’re "very nearly in perfect condition." They’re in pieces. How is that "very nearly perfect condition?"

They can easily be glued together. Its rare to find unbroken pottery after a certain amount of time, but if all the pieces are there, and the paint is recognizable, so it only has to be glued together, I would think its nearly perfect.

Kmorgan, Why did Riker allow the Captain to be the guinea pig for the attempt to restore the four to their adult selves? Isn't this what Ensigns are for?

You mean, Ro Laren? There were no other ensigns who had been through the process. And picard isn't the type to order somebody into danger to protect himself in a situation like that, only if somebody volunteered. And since ro was too busy painting, she missed the opportunity to volunteer ... You could also say that picard was most eager to get his own body back.

Best lines (after reading the marissa stories): Who will respect a 12-year old as starfleet captain?

About going back to college: And share a room with wesley crusher?
(Although that made me wonder a bit, since all the time before, picard was acting more paternal to wesley, encouraging him to enter the academy, and so on. but the tone of voice he uses sounds as if picard has joined the hate-wesley-club.)

Okay, the explanation given as to why they become kids is complete nonsense. I guess nobody mentioned it since the transporter/ DNA mixup is by now part of Trek-Technology. But its still nonsense. There are technobabble-RNA fragments which cause a person to age - it would have been found long ago. (Or does crusher mean these special RNA isn't in our time frame, made of some subspace stuff??)
And changing the DNA wouldn't make people revert to children.
Moreover, why does the transporter fiddle around with the DNA/ RNA anyway? The principle of the transporter is not to take the cells apart and seperate DNA, RNA and everything else, its supposed to take everything apart at atomic level, and record that in the buffer, and then re-construct the person. If DNA would be important for the transporting process, dead and non-living things couldn't be beamed.

Also, the capture by the ferengi is really poor show. The idea of making children of somebody as dignified as picard and guinan was a good one, but the technobabble and the resulting problem was badly written, and to me it became clear quite early that they would use the reset button (as always), so picard thinking about his future wasn't convincing.

For me, the scenes between ro and guinan didn't sound true. Ro is still an adult. Part of the "happiness" of childhood, of being able to enjoy jumping on the bed without feeling ridicolos, is that a child has a very different view of the world than an adult. Just be having a child's body with an adult brain wouldn't change your view of the world, the way you interact. It would change the way others interact with you - as shown with keiko - but it wouldn't give you back the carefree attitude.


By LUIGI NOVI on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 2:57 pm:

constanze: BTW, where was it established that picard has fighting experience?
Luigi Novi: Anyone who’s been trained by Starfleet and achieved the captaincy of the flagship has fighting experience. We saw Picard in hand-to-hand combat in Sins of the Father, The High Ground, and ST Generations.

constanze: In the first eps. it is established that the captain should stay on the ship, as he is too valuable to risk on away missions…
Luigi Novi: That has nothing to do with whether he has fighting experience.

Luigi Novi: The Marlonians must’ve gotten their dining customs from Greece

constanze: Eh? Could you explain that, please?

Luigi Novi: Plate breaking is one of those traditions that have become inextricably associated with the Greek concept of kefi (good humour and fun). Plates are sometimes broken on special occasions or celebrations (eg weddings) or any time when a group of friends enjoy the special mix of food, wine, good company, atmosphere and fun. It’s rarely done in Greece now, as it’s considered more appropriate (and safer) to throw flower heads, but the tradition continues in many Greek establishments around the world.

constanze: They can easily be glued together. Its rare to find unbroken pottery after a certain amount of time, but if all the pieces are there, and the paint is recognizable, so it only has to be glued together, I would think its nearly perfect.
Luigi Novi: To each his own. In my opinion, an artifact that’s in pieces, and requires being glued back together, is not “very nearly perfect.” :) When I would look through my Art History textbook in art school, I never saw jagged cracks across any of the artifacts displayed therein. :)

constanze: (Although that made me wonder a bit, since all the time before, picard was acting more paternal to wesley, encouraging him to enter the academy, and so on. but the tone of voice he uses sounds as if picard has joined the hate-wesley-club.)
Luigi Novi: It just seemed to me that he found the idea of living life as a twelve year old all over again unacceptable.


By Sophie on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 3:06 pm:

On your last point, Constanze, there are adults who enjoy roleplaying as children, as a release from responsibility, to relive happy memories, or to replace bad memories with nice ones. Not my scene, but I understand it. Perhaps Ro finds that having a child's body gives her permission to act that way.

I saw this a while back, which sums it up nicely:

I am hereby officially tendering my resignation as an adult. I have decided I would like to accept the responsibilities of an 8 year-old.

I want to go to McDonald's and think that it's a four star restaurant.

I want to sail sticks across a fresh mud puddle and make a sidewalk with rocks.

I want to think M&Ms are better than money because you can eat them.

I want to lie under a big oak tree and run a lemonade stand with my friends on a hot summer's day.

I want to return to a time when life was simple; when all you knew were colours, multiplication tables, and nursery rhymes, but that didn't bother you, because you didn't know what you didn't know and you didn't care.

All you knew was to be happy.

I want to think the world is fair. That everyone is honest and good. I want to believe that anything is
possible. I want to be oblivious to the complexities of life and be overly excited by the little things again.

I want to live simple again. I don't want my day to consist of computer crashes, mountains of paperwork,depressing news, how to survive more days in the month than there is money in the bank, doctor bills, gossip, illness,and loss of loved ones.

I want to believe in the power of smiles, hugs, a kind word, truth, justice, peace, dreams, the imagination, mankind and making angels in the snow.

So . . . here's my chequebook and my car-keys, my credit card bills and my 401K statements. I am officially resigning from adulthood. And if you want to discuss this further, you'll have to catch me first, cause........

......"Tag! You're it."


By margie on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 11:52 am:

Ro never really had a childhood, so maybe doing all these things is fun for her, even with an adult's mind. She's being allowed to relax and just have fun. I myself wouldn't mind jumping on my bed again, if I knew I wouldn't break it (Been there, done that!) And I do still have a few coloring books laying around that I turn to when I just need some quiet, not thinking-too-hard time.


By LUIGI NOVI on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 8:49 pm:

Or, constanze, to put it another way, just go visit the Neverland Ranch. :)


By Marka on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 8:19 am:

When Picard is talking to his "Dad", he asks him to restore the computer in Schoolroom 8.
However, both before and after this scene, the monitor we see displays Classroom 7.


By The Capn on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 9:07 pm:

I noticed that, too! That bugged me. Maybe he just restored it to all classrooms, in case they moved?

This is my favorite episode of all time, honestly (before I saw this, it was Lower Decks). I LOVELOVELOVE the younger Ro.

But... didn't young Guinan look a little... stoned?


By Mike Ram on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 4:24 pm:

KAM: Why didn't Worf fire when he saw the two Ferengi materializing? He had enough time. (How come we never see anyone firing at a materializing person? Is it considered to be 'cowardly?')

In "By Inferno's Light," (DS9) the Jem'Hadar clearly shoot at a dematerializing Worf, yet the shot goes right through him. Maybe transporting somehouw protects you from fire?


By KAM on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 12:05 am:

I suppose there is that scene in A Matter Of Perspective to back that up.

Still, you see someone beaming in just wait till the sparklies stop & hit them with a stun beam.


By inblackestnight on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 6:54 am:

The kid who plays the younger Picard also played his nephew Rene in Family, pretty sure anyway.


By Snick on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 12:55 pm:

No, it's so.


By Mr Crusher on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 5:17 pm:

This is Chief O'Brien's last appearance on The Next Generation until the past scenes of "All Good Thing . . . "

This is Keiko and Molly O'Brien's last appearance on The Next Generation forever.

And this episode was directed by the son of the actor who played Spock on Star Trek.


By Butch Brookshier (Bbrookshier) on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 6:25 pm:

The Typo that led to that exchange of posts has been corrected.
Mr. Crusher, your response was not warranted. Do not repeat it.


By Mr Crusher on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 6:43 pm:

It was just as warranted as his was.


By Butch the Moderator on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 8:25 pm:

His question simply asked for more information. A simple explanation that you had made a typo and that the word should have been 'played' was all that was required.


By Mr Crusher on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 8:29 pm:

if you say so


By ?????????????? on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 9:13 am:

Why was my Adam Nimoy is Leonard Nimoy's son removed? I wasn't attacking anyone.I was trying to help.Not happy here.


By ?????????????? on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 9:39 am:

off topic, but valid-I left a Trek related board when I wrote Scotty In Relics is 147 years old, see dialogue act 1 to Dr. Crusher, and they erased it and called me liaer.They told me to watch the show more carefully.I know most dialog from Tos, Tng and Ds9 .One poster complains about gammer, spllin and punctuaation, not what the baord is about.
You know who you are.Keep this up until Mr. Crusher and Polls sees this. Thanks.


Or you can put in on the Relics board.


By Butch the Moderator on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 2:18 pm:

????, I usually remove all posts relating to an offensive post so as to try and head off further needless/off topic discussion. Torque, that's why I removed your last post, not because it was in itself, offensive.

Let's just drop this everyone.


By Torque, Son of Keplar on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 8:57 pm:

back to the topic at hand...

Who are the rascals this episode is named for? According to www.M-W.com rascal means the following. Are the Ferangi the rascals this eps named for or was it meant to refer to the kids?

===
rascal
One entry found for rascal.


Main Entry: ras·cal
Pronunciation: 'ras-k&l
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English rascaile foot soldiers, commoners, worthless person, from Anglo-French rascaille, from Old French dialect (Norman & Picard) *rasquer to scrape, clean off, from Vulgar Latin *rasicare
1 : a mean, unprincipled, or dishonest person
2 : a mischievous person or animal
- rascal adjective


By Polls Voice on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 9:16 pm:

By John A. Lang on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 11:08 pm:

NANJAO: This episode was directed by Adam Nimoy...son of the legendary Leonard Nimoy...who we know as Spock


Boy, I guess Mr. C and Torque, Son of Keplar should just read the entire thread of previously posted nits. Could have avoided that misunderstanding. :)


By Mr Crusher on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 9:18 pm:

I did read the entire thread, but where in the Nitcentral rules does it say that something can't be pointed out twice?


By Butch the Moderator on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 10:00 pm:

It doesn't, but it usually gets pointed out.
Please, back to the actual nitpicking.


By KAM on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 3:04 am:

Torque, I think the Rascals of the title refers to the kids, since it is a slang term for kids, doubtless deriving from definition 2 & a bad old movie series called The Little Rascals (aka Our Gang).


By Torque, Son of Keplar on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 9:15 am:

I guess I don't quite see how retaking your ship is considered mischievous... regardless of whether or not Alexander is an animal. :)


By KAM on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 9:19 am:

Just an example of our shifting language.

Originally mischevious children were called rascals & through the years the association of rascals with children has caused people to forget the mischevious part.


By LUIGI NOVI on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 5:25 pm:

I think it's just a play on the fact that the Ferengi do not consider the kids to be a legitimate threat, and capable of nothing more than the mischief of Rascals. That they are capable of quite more than that is an intended irony, I think. Calling them "Rascals" instead of "insurgents" or "Starfleet agents" is akin to referring to a towering, hulking man as "Tiny".


By Hikaru Sulu on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 6:07 pm:

Don't call me "Tiny"!!!


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 10:33 pm:

Jeri Taylor was once asked about how easy the Ferengis took over the ship. Her response: "Well, do you think four little children could have retaken it from the Cardassians?"

I have to agree with her. This was a light hearted and funny episode, and the Ferengi fit right in her. You cannot take them seriously as villians, and this episode shows it. They are basically, a race of buffoons, and the fact that they were easily defeated her shows it.

The Cardies would be totally out of place in this episode. They are serious villians. If they children tried to move against them, they probably would have slaughtered them.


By KAM on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 12:59 am:

Jeri Taylor was once asked about how easy the Ferengis took over the ship. Her response: "Well, do you think four little children could have retaken it from the Cardassians?"
Sooooooo to justify a big implausibility she utilizes an even bigger implausibility?

Sounds more like a reason to rethink the whole story.


By Polls Voice on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 12:28 pm:

Who ever said the human race was logical...


By Torque, Son of Keplar on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 12:32 pm:

From the top of the topic

Picard, Ro, Keiko and Guinan are transformed into children.

Guinan.......Whoopi Goldberg
Keiko.....Rosalind Chao
Ensign Ro......Michelle Forbes
Young Picard.......Daviv Tristin Birkin
Young Ro.......Megan Parlen
Young Keiko.......Caroline Junko King


Listed at the top is the actor who played the adult Guinan, but not the child one... Instead is listed the child Picard, but not the adult Picard...

So tell me Guinan and Picard, what happened? Any day now... I'm listening...


By Butch the Embarrassed Mod on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 7:42 pm:

Oopsy. Stewart isn't listed because he's part of the main cast, but the actress playing young Guinan should have been listed. Corrected now.


By lol on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 7:57 am:

btw, is Isis Jones who played young Guinan!


By Torque, Son of Keplar on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 7:50 pm:

yes, according to the Star Trek encyclopedia anyways..


By Andre Reichenbacher (Amr) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 12:08 pm:

Tim McCree said:

"The Cardies would be totally out of place in this episode. They are serious villians. If they children tried to move against them, they probably would have slaughtered them."

It's a safe bet the Romulans would have to. We only occasionally saw the children of both the Rommies and the Cardies. Also, remember when Bochra said to Geordi in "The Enemy", that humans were weak, because they "wasted time and resources on defective children".

That's why I think the Romulans would not hesitate to kill human children, because before Nemesis, they were full-blown bona-fide enemies of the Federation. Still, Crusher tried to help "Patahk", the dying Romulan in "The Enemy", at the same time Bochra was expressing disbelief that Geordi's parents "let him live", because he was born blind. And then there was the humanitarian mission the Enterprise attempted to the Romulans in "Timescape".

I liked what Phil said regarding the Romulans coming aboard the Enterprise with seemingly no security present. "Romulans are, after all, still the enemy, and even while on a mission of mercy, you do not let an armed enemy board your ship!" This was one of my favorite things Phil said in the first Guide.

Not real nits here, just food for thought!


By Andre Reichenbacher (Amr) on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 1:45 am:

"But at least these kids didn't inscribe "I was beaten by a bunch of kids" on the Ferengi hull..." ---Lea Frost

Sadly, I understand this reference, as I've been to the site which features those "stories"!

I think the Star Trek CCG personnel card for the leader of the renegade Ferengi says it best!

Lurin
OFFICER

DaiMon who illegally mined vendarite on Ligos VII. Tried to take over the U.S.S. Enterprise. Would've succeeded too, if it weren't for those meddling kids.

Now THAT is funny!


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Monday, March 31, 2014 - 5:13 am:

I have a friend who's a big TOS fan and nothing but. He loathes the later Trek shows. I tried to get him interested in TNG, but he laughed at the very idea. "Twenty-Fourth Century Wimps" he calls the crews of the later shows.

Sadly, in this case, my friend is right. Kirk would have defeated those Ferengi in no time. Heck, the Red Dwarf crew would have defeated them in no time.

How did this story get produced. If this was the best script that week, I'd hate to see what the others were.


By John A. Lang (Johnalang) on Sunday, April 24, 2016 - 7:25 pm:

GREAT MOMENT: The kids who played the adult actors were spot-on.


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