Parallels

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: NextGen: Season Seven: Parallels
Worf begins slipping from one alternate universe to another.

Wesley Crusher........Wil Wheaton
Dr. Ogawa........Patti Yasutake
Gul Nador.......Mark Bramhall
By Amos on Thursday, June 03, 1999 - 9:23 pm:

Shouldn't that be Parallels?

One of my favorite episodes from Season 7.

~Amos

Title has since been corrected by the moderator.


By Anonymous on Friday, June 04, 1999 - 11:36 am:

Why would the crew be singing "For He's a Jolly Good Fellow" instead of "Happy Birthday" at Worf's birthday party?


By Callie Sullivan on Friday, June 04, 1999 - 3:38 pm:

Why not? I don't see any reason why they shouldn't. And as Deanna said, they had trouble finding a Klingon equivalent of "jolly" - I doubt that Klingons celebrate their birthday so there probably isn't a Klingon word for "birthday" - or "happy", for that matter!


By James on Friday, June 04, 1999 - 4:06 pm:

Happy Birthday is copyrighted, royalties would of had to been paid.


By Chris Thomas on Saturday, June 05, 1999 - 1:58 am:

Don't you think the copyright would have expired by the 24th century? I know what you mean James, I 'm just being facetious.


By Chris Booton (Cbooton) on Saturday, June 05, 1999 - 11:14 am:

Happy Birthday is copyrighted, royalties would of had to been paid.

To whom?


By Murray Leeder on Saturday, June 05, 1999 - 11:46 am:

From memory, to the descendents of the people who wrote the original lyrics. Intriguingly, these lyrics were:

Good morning to you,
Good morning to you,
Good morning, good morning,
Good morning to you.


By Callie Sullivan on Saturday, June 05, 1999 - 6:36 pm:

Mildred and Patty Hill wrote the tune originally and they (or their estate) hold the copyright. I wonder how much money they make a year out of such a simple tune?


By Chris Thomas on Saturday, January 01, 2000 - 1:27 am:

In one of the alternate universes, I wonder why *Lieutenant* Worf was promoted to first officer over *Lieutenant-Commander* Data?


By Anonymous on Friday, January 14, 2000 - 2:00 pm:

Is this episode a rip off of Red Dwarf or what, I half expected Worf to come out with " Smoke me a kipper I'll bwe back for breakfast" when he left parrallel Troi.


By Callie Sullivan on Monday, January 17, 2000 - 5:15 am:

I still don't understand Deanna's statement that "If I understand right, my Worf may not come back." Why? Does this mean that each time our Worf shifts, every other Worf shifts as well? If that's so, why was there a dishevelled Worf on the Borg-attacked Enterprise? Shouldn't that Enterprise's Worf have shifted several times as well?

Secondly, I still don't think the ending was right. I thought that events were only affected after Worf's shuttle hit the Anomaly of the Week. If he was returned to before that time, I would have expected the surprise birthday party to still be on. Or does this mean that Worf hasn't returned to his own dimension at all? (insert tune to The Twilight Zone here ...)


By Anonymous on Monday, January 17, 2000 - 9:04 pm:

Anyone know the name of the episode where Picard and Crusher say "Shut up, Wesley!" ??

Thanks!


By Mark Swinton on Tuesday, January 18, 2000 - 6:18 pm:

"Datalore"


By Anonymous on Friday, February 25, 2000 - 9:36 pm:

To answer Callie's second question it was always my belief that the universe where the birthday party occurred was a parallel universe as well. That maybe when Worf first went through the anamoly he shifted into the universe where Worf crew threw him party. Even though Geordi was not nearby at the time. Of course just passing through the anamoly could have been enough to send him into another universe and then Geordi's presence caused him to jump the other times.


By Will Spencer on Monday, September 25, 2000 - 10:27 am:

Is Deanna on her way to a party or fancy dress engagement when she's wearing that strapless blue dress with perfect make-up and hair? My God, she's beautiful in that! You can't tell me that that's her 'official' counsellor outfit, because that'd be soooo distracting! On the other hand, that'd cure most of the neuroses of any male crewman that visited her!


By Earl Allison on Wednesday, October 18, 2000 - 5:50 am:

Personally, I wish they'd called this one "Crisis on Infinite Worfs." :)

My friend LOVES the idea of parallel universes (loved Sliders first season, went downhill fast, though), so this one was a joy for him to watch.

Take it and run.


By Q7 on Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 9:30 am:

They should have thought of this episode long before they did. I thought it was brilliant from start to finish. thoroughly enjoyable and well planned. Other epiodes recomendable are things like *Relativity* from *Star Trek Voyager*. What's the episode where the Enterprise is caught in a time loop and Data takes Riker's advice instead of depressurizing the shuttle bay like he thinks?


By Miko Iko on Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 10:48 am:

The episode you're looking for is "Cause and Effect".


By The Magnificent Sven of Nine on Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 3:27 pm:

Will Spencer - perhaps this is a discussion for another board, but maybe Deanna's lovely blue little number might encourage the development of a psychosis in a man rather than quash a psychiatric problem - if you know what I mean...


By Duke of Earl Grey on Friday, March 09, 2001 - 8:53 pm:

That theory of quantum mechanics that Data mentions, and I'll paraphrase, that everything that can happen does happen in different quantum realities, could reasonably explain any nit people have concerning discrepancies between the Trek timeline and our own (the Eugenics Wars nits stand out as the most popular example.) Judging from the visual aid Data uses to explain the theory, the number of quantum realities is increasing and branching out. The Star Trek "universe" must be in a quantum reality seperate from our own. The first time we see any discrepancy whatsoever in the two timelines would indicate that the branch-off had already occurred (or at least that Section 31 is up to something...)

I always thought it would have been fun if the Enterprise had run into someone from the twentieth century, who, unlike Khan and the trio from "The Neutral Zone", had originated from the quantum reality where Star Trek had been a TV show.


By Adam Bomb on Wednesday, June 12, 2002 - 11:22 am:

Classic Line from Wesley:
"Captain, we're receiving 285,000 hails."


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 7:15 am:

Worf must have lousy peripheral vision. When Worf walks into the darkened room where everyone is hiding, Dr. Crusher is very noticeable.

Isn't Worf's ears & nose supposed to be better than humans? If so why didn't he hear or smell those people in his room?

Was every Worf affected by Geordi's VISOR, or just the Worf's who flew through the quantum fissure, or just "our" Worf? When Worf jumps to the last reality Data asks him if there had been another shift, which implies that in that reality they had been testing the same hypothesis. I suppose it's a good thing he didn't end up in a universe without a Geordi.

On page 31 of the NextGen Guide II Phil wonders why nobody seems saddened at the death of good old Geordi. How do we know that the Geordi in this reality was a good guy? For all we know, he could have cheated at cards, announced when people were lying, claimed he could see through women's clothing and made crude remarks about their bodies. Maybe in this reality the ship wasn't attacked, but the crew conspired to kill him and leaving him scantily clad was just their way of humiliating him further?

The Inverse Warp Field is supposed to seal the fissure and send everything back to it's normal reality, fine, but why did Worf end up back in time before all the shifts happened? The only 'explanation' was "the uncertainty principle,'' which is no explanation at all. This is supposed to be Star Trek, not The X-Files.

If Worf was sent back in time so that none of this episode really happened, why did he remember it?

Why did Worf end up lying on the floor of the shuttlecraft after sealing the fissure?

Does anyone wonder if Troi was sensing what Worf was thinking when he asked her to stay for dinner, then ordered Champagne?


By kerriem on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 11:39 am:

I can still remember watching this ep when it premiered...and being really, truly scared out of my socks by the desperate Borg-universe Enterprise. The possibility of Our Heroes actually failing to save the universe was just so unsettling. :)

How do we know that the Geordi in this reality was a good guy? For all we know, he could have cheated at cards, announced when people were lying, claimed he could see through women's clothing and made crude remarks about their bodies. Maybe in this reality the ship wasn't attacked, but the crew conspired to kill him and leaving him scantily clad was just their way of humiliating him further?

LOL! Excellent point, KAM. Really, it's a little odd (if understandable given time constraints) that most of the Enterprise crewmembers are exact, erm, parallels to the originals personality-wise.

Is Deanna on her way to a party or fancy dress engagement when she's wearing that strapless blue dress with perfect make-up and hair? My God, she's beautiful in that! You can't tell me that that's her 'official' counsellor outfit, because that'd be soooo distracting! On the other hand, that'd cure most of the neuroses of any male crewman that visited her!

Agreed absolutely, Will, she's breathtaking. I found myself wondering for a moment there if Worf was actually doing the right thing in singlemindedly trying to get home. "So OK, it's not your home universe...hey, there are always compensations, right?"


By LUIGI NOVI on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 10:53 pm:

Keith, which episode stated that Worf's hearing and smell was superior to humans'?


By ScottN on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 1:33 am:

Not explicitly stated, but strongly implied by "Birthright".


By ScottN on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 1:34 am:

Pardon me, not explicitly stated as compared to humans.


By KAM on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 6:07 am:

No explicit comparison that I can think of, however it was Worf who told the Gatherers in The Vengeance Factor that they would hide better if they bathed.
Also Birthright, as ScottN pointed out (Part II, I believe, the hunting scene.)
IIRC wasn't Worf the first to smell the fragrance in Angel One?
Also devolved Worf's smelling of Troi's pheromones in Genesis (although that may have been an aspect of his change.)
While I don't think it was ever stated, those scenes, & scenes I've probably forgotten about, gave me the impression that Worf's senses were either better than humans, or he just paid more attention to what his senses told him than humans do.


By KAM on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 6:13 am:

If you'd read DC Comics' version of Star Trek: The Next Generation, Kerrie, you'd have already seen a universe where our heroes failed. ;-) I believe it was issues 48-50, The Worst Of Both Worlds.


By Ratbat on Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 9:45 am:

OK, it's a bit hard to tell what happens to the other Worfs when our Worf (let's call him Worf-1) bounces into their reality. Do they get shunted out to another universe, or does Worf-1 just 'borrow' their quantum spot for a while as they take a cosmic break? And, either way, what happens to them once Worf-1 changes again? Do they go back home, or is every Worf pushed one along the line?

That up there's not really a nit per se, but it does make me wonder about the main point: If Worf-1's missing from his reality (the one we see on TV every week), then he's not on his Enterprise. But when we see the hail from them, there he is, standing at tactical. Either he should be missing entirely, or that should be another Worf - which most likely means he should be coping with his own version of the situation, not defending the ship as if nothing was wrong!


By King Mob on Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 11:02 am:

I was hoping to see an ISS Enterprise-D, (this was before I saw DS-9.) or a Nazi Enterprise, Picard with a monocle and duelling scar.
Yes, I'm twisted:-)


By Sven of Nine on Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 12:59 pm:

Or how about a "low" Enterprise, with Picard in bondage gear?

I know. Way too Red Dwarf.


By King Mob on Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 2:33 am:

Oooh, the low Troi, "Looking for someone, dearie?"

Ten Forward with cinema hot dogs and toastie toppers!


By King Mob on Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 8:35 am:

Or one where Napoleon conquered the ENTIRE planet, and all the important decisions are made in Paris, and a Frenchman commands the Flagship and...waitaminnit..:-)

Actually, to get Red Dwarf-y, how about a gender reversed Universe?
Commander Wilma Riker:-0


By constanze on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 5:10 am:

What I don't understand: Whenever there's a shift, people's memories shift also, so the only one who notices is worf. but as soon as he tells data, data keeps track of this fact! Wouldn't datas memories change also? Just because he is a computer, or has a positronic brain, doesn't make his memory absolute - when he is from a different quantum dimension, data can only remember what he knows about his own dimension. Or did every worf tell every data?


By Sven of Nine - follow me, eh? Nudge Nudge etc. on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 10:23 am:

I think almost every Worf would have tried to tell Data, but not all Worfs would have attempted to be as resourceful as Our Worf was (though there still will be, of course). Lucky, then, that the Worf who left the last universe Our Worf arrived, had the right idea about solving his dilemma.

Of course, to cover all eventualities in an hour would take great bravery.


By John A. Lang on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 8:50 pm:

NANJAO: The footage of the Argus Array comes from "The Nth Degree"


By Neon on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 1:19 am:

Just re-watched this ep tonight on the DVD, and I had a thought about Worf's shifting in regards to Data's visual aid / branching tree diagram. The first Worf shift was pretty minor: no birthday party to having a surprise party (assuming that he did the first shift when he went through the anomaly before he even reached the Enterprise the first time). The shifts seem to increase in intensity (for lack of a better word) each time; larger and larger "details" about the universe change (e.g. chocolate cake turns to vanilla cake is pretty minor, but soon we've got big changes like Capt. Riker instead of Picard, etc.). Does anyone else think that the farther along Worf goes shifting (i.e. the more times he shifts) the "worse", or more drastic, the changes are going to be? That is, the more shifts he makes, the further away from his own universe he gets on Data's tree-diagram? Could Worf eventually shift his way out of existence by shifting into a quantum universe in which he's already died, or something equally catastrophic?

Just a thought... :-)


By LUIGI NOVI on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 6:51 pm:

Why is his death the most drastic thing that could've happened? Theoretically, he could've jumped into a universe where the Earth was never formed.


By Josh M on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 10:31 am:

Every time he jumps into a universe he seems to take the place of the Worf that exists there. If Worf is dead (or doesn't exist at all) something bad would probably happen.


By Darth Sarcasm on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 10:44 am:

We don't know that Worf could shift into a universe in which he doesn't exist, seeing as each time he shifted, the Worf from that universe was "bumped" into another one.

The consequences if Worf were to have shifted into one in which he was dead I'd guess would depend on whether Worf's body were physically shifting or just his consciousness.

If Worf's body shifted, then it would probably simply appear that Worf came back to life. Of course, he could "wake up" in a coffin or photon tube, which would be tragic. However, if his consciousness shifted... I dunno...

And Neon didn't speculate that this would be the "most drastic" thing that could happen... he only said it would be a universe with more drastic changes than the ones he visited in this episode.


By Bite me, Im telepathic! on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 7:55 pm:

He shifts into the his body from Genesis!!!!!

RUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!

:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(


By Mike on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 8:20 pm:

Even though this isnt really a nit because of the fact that it was an alternate reality...why in heck in the final jump would the Enterprise bridge have that glass wall with a diagram of the Enterprise where it did? Wesley stands in front of it. Its in the middle of the floor, looks horrible, and serves what seems to be no purpose. Other then in makes the bridge looks diffrent, you would think that TPTB would have made something a bit cooler or at least something that made sense. The new tactical station in the first major jump made sense.

The other thing that made no sense in the jumps was that every single ship looked exactly the same. Why not a reality that the Enterprise had a third nacelle or something diffrent....even a diffrent name. I mean, im sure someone along the way in another reality named the ship Yorktown....or the Enterprise-C was never destroyed... etc.

What was a nit in this episode is something about Worf's quarters. They are HUGE! Workdhas a living area, another room, presumably another 3rd room with a door on it so Riker could come in the backway to surprise Worf, Worfs own bedroom, and a bedroom for Alexander which we see in other episodes. Picards quarters arent that big, or Rikers..


By Darth Sarcasm on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 7:58 pm:

The other thing that made no sense in the jumps was that every single ship looked exactly the same. - Mike

Because, the realities are branches from one tree.

Of course, theoretically, what you suggest is possible... if there's an infinite number of realities, there would be an infinite number of possibilities. But then, what are the chances that another ship Worf happened to be on was in the same region of space?


By Anonymous on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 8:30 pm:

Was what was happening to Worf in this ep what being unstuck means? (See Sliders for that term)


By joeloud on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 6:50 am:

One of my favorite TNG episodes... Here's my idea of how it worked.. it made sense at one time, hopefully it still does..

First off: why are we always on the Enterprise-D with only some minor shuffling of things like whether Picard and/or Riker are dead, computer panel layouts, lighting in the bridge, whether Data's eyes are blue or yellow, etc? - My personal analysis was that the jumps that Worf was making between the branches in the tree of quantum realities were relatively small. That's why he didn't appear on the post-apocalyptic Enterprise or on another ship. Obviously things like whether Picard is there or if Riker had died too would be 'big' events in Worf's life, but serving on a whole different ship or (one of my first questions) never joining Starfleet and serving in the Klingon Empire would have had a lot more of an impact on his life, therefore a larger deviation from his 'quantum signature' (I think I'm remembering the terms Data used right.. I should be careful this is a nitpicking website isn't it?)

My second question I had was (as someone else mentioned) what if he ended up in a reality where he'd never been near Geordi? My guess was that in order for him to shift, there might need to be another reality where the VISOR would allow the Worf of that reality to shift, and 'make room' for the other one. Or at least some other technology that had whatever the VISOR had that caused the shifts or perhaps even a different crew member with a VISOR.

Another question that came up above was asking about why there was a 'normal' Worf just standing at the tactical station when the other Enterprises were pouring into the same reality, and my guess was that he hadn't experienced all the same shifts that our 'Worf-proper' had been experiencing. Like, the first shift was the suprise party, so perhaps the other Worf from that universe was walking to his quarters with Riker who has a sly grin on his face, then there's no party.. then that's the end of that Worf's shifting and doesn't notice anything more than that until they pop up in a field of Enterprises...

The other thing someone mentioned was Data "remembering" everything that's happening to Worf but no one else does.. it's more likely that either A) In each reality, there are 'Worfs' that are having similar experiences that Data is collecting information on or B) Worf is recalling the research that Data had done from the last reality and repeating what he remembers to Data in the next reality where he 'starts' analyzing the situation but with more information each time.

So... yeah, that's my long post... Wow, I came here in case someone posted about Data's eyes (some site I read nitpicked his eye color as a mistake when it was actually intended...) and I end up writing a friggin essay about this TNG episode I haven't seen in forever, though it shouldn't be long now - thank you Spike TV ;)


By Marka on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 3:24 pm:

I loved this episode as I love everything weird. I've found only one thing unbelievable here. I can't really imagine Riker being that desperate even under the circumstances.

Isn't his behaviour totally out of character? I mean, I know the Borg reality would have been awful but still isn't he the one who'd rather defend all the other realities where people survived instead of trying to ruin everything?


By LUIGI NOVI on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 9:39 pm:

No, I don't think his behavior is out of character; it's derived no doubt from years of a losing war with the Borg, the loss of many people close to him, and a feeling of hopelessness.


By Marka on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 1:59 am:

Granted, his situation is hopeless.

I must have been reading too much fan fiction :-)

I read a lot about an alternative universe like this one and I've always imagined that Riker would be stronger. It may well be just me, though.


By KAM on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 2:15 am:

There may be many universes where the Borg won & in each one Riker had a slightly different upbringing which affected how he would react under the circumstances. We only see one example here though, so there may indeed be other captain Riker's who are not reacting this way.


By Joel Croteau (Jcroteau) on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 11:21 pm:

Well it would already have been out of character for Riker to have lost to the Borg in the first place.


By Mr Crusher on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 10:06 pm:

Why?


By LUIGI NOVI (Lnovi) on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 2:50 pm:

I assume you were joking, Joel?


By inblackestnight on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 3:49 pm:

"...why in heck in the final jump would the Enterprise bridge have that glass wall with a diagram of the Enterprise where it did?" Mike

I believe we've seen these walls before, they display information like battle damage, areas with maintenance in progress... Granted the area it's in here is a bit in the way of the science stations but the bridge is pretty spacious to begin with.

When Enterprises start appearing, Wesley says they're receiving 250,000 hails; Adam Bomb posted 285,000 but I thought it was a quarter mil. Anyway, the other ships just started to pop-up a few seconds ago, would that many have already appeared?

So the Bajorans were able to repel the Cardassians and prevent the Occupation in this reality. Either they have much bigger and more advanced ships in this universe or they still feel like the underdog of the quadrant for whipping the Cardis.

Was the E-D from the universe where the Borg were rampant firing photon torpedoes at Worf's shuttle? If so, wouldn't PTs destory a shuttlecraft pretty easily, espicially since Worf probably didn't have his shields up?

In the Guide Phil asks "anyone else think that the explosion of the Borg-infested-reality Enterprise at the end of the episode causes too little damage to the adjacent ships?" Well Phil, yes I do, and I'm probably not the only other one. The explosion of that ship should've caused a chain reaction that destroyed several others.


By inblackestnight on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 7:27 am:

Ok, it was 285,000 hails, nice work Adam, and it was a tad longer than a few seconds, but I still think that many E-Ds is a lot in the time passed.

Every time Worf jumps quantum realities he's in the same spot, except when the Cardassians are attacking and Worf can't operate his tactical station. Worf's jumping caused him to see Troi in a different way and begins a relationship with her after this ep, which he probably wouldn't have otherwise. Could it be that the AOTW was meant to be a paradox so Geordie would die in one reality/timeline and Worf would become involved with Troi in another?

I like those "Future Imperfect" communicators but they have the rank insignia on them as well, so the collar pips are redundant. Speaking of the pips, Captain Riker's were at an odd angle in Worf's final jump.

Why was there only about six or seven Worfs in the shuttle as it passed through the anomoly? Shouldn't it be filled with Worfs?


By Joel Croteau (Jcroteau) on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 12:20 am:

Luigi: No. The Riker we know and love is more clever and would not have had such an easy time losing to the Borg. The Riker from the alternate universe is clearly a different Riker with different characteristics if he lost to the Borg like that, so we shouldn't be surprised if he acts out of character on other ways.


By LUIGI NOVI (Lnovi) on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 7:53 am:

Losing to the Borg is not a function of character. The outcomes of wars are the result of a countless number of historical contingencies, of which character is one. Given that the victory the Federation won at the end of BoBWpII was one won by the skin of their teeth, it is not unreasonable to imagine that there are many alternatie histories where they were not able to snag that victory, and where a history of Borg conquest of the A Quad followed. It doesnt necessarily have anything to do with character, in and of itself, any more than the various alternate history science fiction stories in which the US lost WWII do.


By Daniel Vieira (Dangelus) on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - 1:29 pm:

From Data's explanation that the event caused branching alternate realities and Worf to jump to different ones then surely he should not have jumped into a reality where Picard was killed during the Borg encounter? Remember, he is jumping to alternate realities branched off from the ORIGINAL point, ie the shuttlecraft trip from the tournament. All events previous to this should be the same in ALL realities in this branch!


By Adam Bomb (Abomb) on Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 5:23 am:

Mildred and Patty Hill wrote the tune ("Happy Birthday To You") originally and they (or their estate) hold the copyright. I wonder how much money they make a year out of such a simple tune?
This episode is on the "Alternate Realities" DVD set, with a commentary track by Brannon Braga. He stated that to use "Happy Birthday To You" would have cost the production about $20,000 at the time. Which is why that tune was chucked, and "For He's A Jolly Good Fellow" was used instead; the use of that is free, as it's not copyrighted.
According to this, Warner Music owns the copyright now, and collects about $2 million a year from it.


By John A. Lang (Johnalang) on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 7:55 pm:

NOTE: I LOVE that "off the shoulders" blue dress D. Troi was wearing in that one reality.


By John A. Lang (Johnalang) on Saturday, May 22, 2010 - 5:42 am:

At one point, Troi bites Worf in the cheek...and he is disturbed by it.

Isn't a bite on the cheek pretty much Klingon-fare?


By Alan Hamilton (Alan) on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 8:44 pm:

If I recall correctly, I think it's just that he was freaked to discover he's married to Trio. She's someone he doesn't think of in "that way".


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 12:30 am:

Way back when, King Mob said:

{i\I was hoping to see an ISS Enterprise-D, (this was before I saw DS-9.}

There might have been, because it's very likely that a version of the Mirror Universe exists in which the Terran Empire never fell.


By Adam Bomb (Abomb) on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 6:59 am:

Alan wrote, a while back:


quote:

I think it's just that he was freaked to discover he's married to Trio..



I'd be freaked too, if I found out that I was married to a defunct cable channel. Or, to a country music CD.


By Rodney Hrvatin (Rhrvatin) on Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 11:09 pm:

One of my personal favourite episodes of season 7- i was hoping to see Andre's thoughts here on this one. Oh well....


By Andre Reichenbacher (Amr) on Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 11:58 am:

Well, I did already say a little bit what I thought of this one when I responded to Andrew's post on the "Things we'll remember about TNG" board. This is what I said there:

"This one was OK. Especially when we see the Riker from the quantum reality where the Borg have taken over the whole Federation (for about ten seconds, but it was still cool.)"

One thing I didnt care for was showing Geordi's dead body apparently naked except for a strategically placed cloth. What was that about? Also, showing the QR where the Bajorans were now hostile and warlike after overthrowing the Cardassians, that was interesting too, I thought.

Also, some above posters talk about alternate universes in science fiction, and I also like that idea. Marvel and DC Comics both have "multiverses", however in 1985 DC tried to get rid of that idea with the "Crisis" storyline, but they did eventually bring it back and now there are 52 distinct universes. As for Marvel, they have always had a very diverse set of alternate realities, and the "What If?" series of comics shows what *could* have happened if something was done differently from what happened in the primary Marvel Universe. Cool stuff!

There you have it!


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Tuesday, July 22, 2014 - 12:09 pm:

kerriem - "...it's a little odd (if understandable given time constraints) that most of the Enterprise crewmembers are exact, erm, parallels to the originals personality-wise."

I would have liked to have seen one drastic difference in at least one crewmember, such as a blonde Data, or a Data that was more robotic, or even a clean-shaven Will Riker.

Ratbat - "...does Worf-1 just 'borrow' their quantum spot for a while as they take a cosmic break?"

The Chief touched on this by wondering why our Worf kept appearing wearing the other Worf(s) uniforms. It seems that maybe his consciousness, and not his body, is travelling from universe to universe, but wait! The shuttlecraft has the same quantum signature as Worf, so that seems like a naked Worf travels universe to universe, literally taking the place of the other Worf(s). Othwerwise he should never have found himself wearing a red First officer's uniform.

The Chief also made a good point in his book-- good thing the multiple Enterprises didn't appear on top of one another and damage each other.

I'll always believe that the Argus Array is way, way too big. It's gigantic compared to the Enterprise, which makes it seem the size of a small town. Why couldn't they miniatuize all this stuff and make it smaller than the Enterprise's saucer section? After all it's just supposed to be a super powerful telescope.

I agree with other posters-- the Borg-damaged Enterprise's explosion was pretty wimpy, but I owe that to the explosion being muffled and absorbed by the quantum bubble around that ship, which collapsed in one itself. Back in the Borg-infested universe, the rest of the explosion took place and space lit up like a small star going nova.

I wonder which one of those Enterprises on the TV screen was the Enterprise-D we see in 'Star Trek: Generations'? ;-)


By Francois Lacombe (Franc0is) on Tuesday, July 22, 2014 - 12:25 pm:

Why couldn't they miniatuize all this stuff and make it smaller than the Enterprise's saucer section? After all it's just supposed to be a super powerful telescope.

The larger a conventional telescope is, the more resolution it can deliver. There's no reason to believe a telescope working in subspace would be any different.


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Wednesday, July 23, 2014 - 11:06 am:

Maybe, but who could possibly design blueprints that show a mere telescope that's about 5 miles by 5 miles big?
It's so big that it doesn't impress me-- it makes me wonder why, in the 24th century, they couldn't miniaturize the thing to a decent size.


By Francois Lacombe (Franc0is) on Friday, July 25, 2014 - 6:13 am:

Sorry, it doesn't work like that. If you make the instrument smaller, you loose resolution, period. There's no way to engineer your way out of that. And astronomers have never been shy about designing big instruments. There are currently telescopes with mirrors 30 meters in diameter in the works, and proposed ones with 100 meters mirrors. Think about it, that's an instrument larger than a football field! And once you move them in space, there's really no limits to how large they can be. A 5 miles by 5 miles telescope actually sounds tame for something built in the 24th century.


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Saturday, July 26, 2014 - 8:28 pm:

'Ethics' takes place on stardate 45587.3, in the middle of season 5. We're told that this is when Worf and Troi realized their attraction wowards each other, as he recovered from his spinal injury. Data then tells Worf that 6 months later, he 'courted' Troi, which places it the beginning of season 6.
However, 'Parallels' is about one-third into season 7, so that equals less than one and a half years since they began relationship.
However, later on Troi tells Worf that they have a 2 year old daughter, and 3 year old son! This would mean that the daughter was born in the middle of season 5 (roughly around 'The Masterpiece Society'), and the 3 year old son would be from the middle of the 4th season (roughly 'Devil's Due')! And that's just the birth! Conception, if we're estimating roughly 9 human months would push the boy's conception back into the 3rd season, around 'Tin Man'!

If shuttlecraft match Worf's quantum signature, it's leaping into other universes, too.
So how could Worf's shuttlecraft have his log of his other self's 9th place log entry? It should have his real entry about winning the tournament.

If the shuttle is leaping, which is an inanimate object, why do his clothes , which are inanimate objects, too, not remain the same? Why does he keep appearing in other Worf uniforms?


By Adam Bomb (Abomb) on Wednesday, September 23, 2015 - 7:39 am:

A Federal judge has ruled that Warner's copyright on "Happy Birthday To You" is invalid, probably putting the song into the public domain. Click on the link in my 8/23/09 post for more information.


By Francois Lacombe (Franc0is) on Wednesday, September 23, 2015 - 10:58 am:

If shuttlecraft match Worf's quantum signature, it's leaping into other universes, too.
So how could Worf's shuttlecraft have his log of his other self's 9th place log entry? It should have his real entry about winning the tournament.


Is he accessing the logs from the shuttle's computer, or from the Enterprise's computer after uploading the logs to it when he got back? I'm not exactly sure about that one.

If the shuttle is leaping, which is an inanimate object, why do his clothes , which are inanimate objects, too, not remain the same? Why does he keep appearing in other Worf uniforms?

Because the uniforms he wears after the first day are not the one he wore on the shuttle.


By Lifeisalarkatwillowgrovepark (Zooz) on Thursday, May 09, 2019 - 2:49 pm:

Since quantum realities(?) are merging together, wouldn't we be seeing Enterprises being fused together and possibly hostile ships from other realities appearing in the area? What's happening to the planets and stars in this sector? Are they getting fused with their counterparts, and wouldn't there be massive gravitational anomolies and perhaps even a supernova?


By R W F Worsley (Notanit) on Saturday, September 05, 2020 - 8:50 am:

Regarding copyright for Happy Birthday to You:

According to the Copyright status section of the song's Wikipedia entry :

The music and lyrics are in public domain in the European Union and the United States. The copyright expired in the European Union on January 1, 2017. A U.S. federal court ruled in 2016 that Warner and Chappell's copyright claim was invalid and there was no other claim to copyright.

However, it doesn't say what the position is in South America, Asia or Australia/New Zealand.


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