When Garak enters the holosuite to meet Ziyal, the holosuite doors sound just like on the Enterprise, rather than the usual sound.
Quark tells Garak that the pants are a meter too long. Now either Quark isn't paying attention to what he is saying, or he likes to exaggerate because I believe a meter is over 3 feet long. Then again, maybe Quark made a Freudian slip and wants to run around pantsless?
In the NextGen II & DS9 Guides, Phil commented on the on-again/off-again situation of whether or not the DMZ colonists were Federation citizens. This episode states that members of the Maquis are not Federation citizens.
I liked Commander Eddington. Too bad they turned him into a Maquis.
Also one of the few television sci-fi characters named Michael.
Ya know, James is a heroic name, Kirk, West, Bond, etc,.... And no, My name is not Michael.......lol
I have to admit I was practically cheering when Eddington made his parting speech to Sisko. The Federation is more insidious than the Borg - brilliant!
One nit related to the on-again/off-again Federation citizenship status of the Maquis; if they're not Federation citizens and they don't commit a crime in Federation space, how can the Federation prosecute them? OK, some of them have committed crimes in Federation space (Eddington for example) but a lot of the others have not - they were fighting Cardassians in Cardassian space, etc. Maybe the Federation tries to pull the same sort of thing the Spanish did when they tried to extradite Pinochet - prosecute a non-citizen for crimes committed outside your jurisdiction. But then that wouldn't be very Federation-like, would it? Kind of insidious, really.
We brought Manuel Noriega to the U.S. and prosecuted him for crimes committed in Panama that had a direct affect on Americans.
The United States might have, but that doesn't include me
But the point remains that you shouldn't go about arresting foreigners for foreign crimes even if they were committed against your own citizens abroad. That kind of action is how the 30 Years War in Europe got started. So I wouldn't agree with the Noriega extradition (unless it can be proved that he actually committed or had others commit crimes in American jurisdiction, at which point it does get a little grey, and I wasn't old enough to remember the details so I'll leave it at that
Admiral of the Fleet - On the Voyager Endgame board, someone asked if the Maquis crewmembers of Voyager would have to face prosecution when they get back to Earth. Like you, I questioned how the Federation would even have jurisdiction to prosecute individuals for offenses which occurred in the DMZ. In addition, the political ramifications of such a prosecution after the Dominion War would make any such legal action unlikely. But before the war, the treaty probably gave the Federation and the Cardassian Union concurrent jurisdiction over offenses committed within the DMZ
This episode, interestingly enough, bears a strong resembelence to a MIAMI VICE episode called "When Irish Eyes Are Crying" (FYI, it was the 3rd season opener, where Sonny Crockett's black Ferrari Daytona gets blown to bits by the bad guys). Just as Sisko finds out that Kasidy Yates works for the Marquis, Gina Calabrease, one of the lady cops, finds out that her latest beau is an IRA terrorist out to do a spectacular 9/11-type stunt: blow up a Concorde.
TOS SALUTE: Sisko says that Starfleet Captains are a paragon of virtue...that was first spoken by Eve in "Mudd's Women"
Can someone explain to me why Yates was arrested for delivering humanitarian aid to the Maquis? I mean, the U.S. still sends Iraq humanitarian aid & no one is arrested.
Iraq is no longer the U.S.'s enemy. They're controlling it. did you mean before the war?
The analogy is not quite right, after all, the Maquis are a terrorist organization, not a state. If a U.S. citizen sent humanitarian aid to Al-Quaeda (or the IRA, for that matter) I'm sure they'd get into trouble.
Thanks, Bara. That cleared it up.
But we did help out Bin Laden during the Cold War.
A better analogy is: How much aid did France send to the U.S. during the Revolutionary War period?
The diference is that the US as a GOVERNMENT sent aid to Bin Laden durring the cold war (legal) and France the GOVERNMENT sent aid to the US revolutionarys (also legal beecause France the government can decide to help whoever they want.) But if a Brittish citizen had helped the US revolution they would have been in trouble with the british government because the government declaired the revolutionaries the enemy.
Polls Voice: A better analogy is: How much aid did France send to the U.S. during the Revolutionary War period?
Luigi Novi: According to Michael Moore, in Dude, Where's My Country?, we wouldn't have beaten the British without them. Paul Revere was half French. The French sent troops, ships, 90 percent of the gunpowder we used, and tens of millions of dollars. When General Cornwallis surrendered at Yorktown, he surrendered to the French Navy, who had boxed in the British redcoats. On that day, there were more French troops in the ranks than colonists.
I knew that.
I'm Polls Voice, I ask or say things in a certain way in order to get a certain response.
So...
The better question/comment would be; If Dr. Crusher actually treated or provided aid to the terrorists in "The High Ground" (TNG), would she be arrested?
Where's Dax in the second half of this episode? She isn't on the Defiant, but surely if she were still on the station Eddington wouldn't have had to 'take command of the station for the next few hours', and he wouldn't have left Lt Reese in charge when he left.
All right, one year post!
Odo didn't waste any time to rub it in SF's face about putting him on the back burner. Then again, he let them off easy.
I've deleted several off-topic posts.
NANJAO: A different actress is playing Ziyal in this episode than from "Indiscretion" & "Return To Grace"
I ABSOLUTELY LOOVVEEE THIS DIALOGUE:
"I know you. I was like you once, but then I opened my eyes. Open your eyes, Captain. Why is the Federation so obsessed with the Maquis? We've never harmed you. And yet we're constantly arrested and charged with terrorism. Starships chase us through the Badlands and our supporters are harassed and ridiculed. Why? Because we've left the Federation, and that's the one thing you can't accept. Nobody leaves paradise. Everyone should want to be in the Federation. Hell, you even want the Cardassians to join. You're only sending them replicators because one day they can take their "rightful place" on the Federation Council. You know, in some ways you're even worse than the Borg. At least they tell you about their plans for assimilation. You're more insidious. You assimilate people and they don't even know it."
Take THAT, Sisko. Take THAT, Starfleet Command. Take THAT, "Mighty Federation"!!!!!
Too bad Eddington would be killed by the Jemmies in Season Five's "Blaze Of Glory". I still really like that they had him say that. It was what the rest of the Alpha Quadrant was already thinking after all, and Eddington only clearly and succinctly stated what needed to be said.
And I always really love it when that happens!