When Sisko discovers the transporter traces of Red Squad, he contacts a Bolian admiral, at least, I think he was an admiral. He seemed to have the rectangular bars of an admiral, but he only had a total of 4 pips (stars? bumps?) inside the bars. Most admirals seem to have 6 pips. The only other exception that I've ever noticed was Admiral Riker in All Good Things who had 8 pips.

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The members of Red squad were sent away so they couldn't testify about their actions. I wonder if they were sent on the starship Valiant to circle the Federation at warp 3.6?

After discovering the personnel transfers, Sisko sits on the console instead of the chair.

Why did the Changeling take on O'Brien's appearance and where did he learn to mimic O'Brien? Either this Changeling had spent a few days on DS9 specifically studying O'Brien to get the look, sound, and movements right, (I would have sworn 'O'Brien' was played by Colm Meany and not some Changeling ;-), or those Changelings are very good at picking up an amazing amount of detail with very little time to study.

Admiral Layton fixes the blood test so it looks like Sisko is a Changeling, but didn't a Changeling disguised as Bashir do the same thing to Commander Eddington in The Adversary? Wouldn't that subterfuge be on record and some kind of precautions established to prevent a repeat?

Also since the Admiral could pull off this fake, wouldn't it be easier to make it look like there was a Changeling at the Antwerp Conference, before the bomb went off? So who really set the bomb? The Founders or Admiral Layton?

Why is Kira on the Defiant? She's not a Starfleet officer. (Of course, Odo isn't even a Federation citizen and Starfleet ordered him to Earth.)

When the Lakota is fighting the Defiant, the Closed Captioning reads that the Defiant has received [a blade of armor], I believe it is supposed to read ablative armor.

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In this episode we learn that many of the things blamed on the Changelings in the previous episode were actually instigated by Admiral Layton to force the President to declare martial law. Oddly enough, when war between the Federation & Dominion does break out, the Changelings on Earth apparently choose not to terrorize Earth with explosions and sabotage.

I believe that Admiral Pressman of "The Pegasus" has a mere four pips on his uniform. I recall Admiral Nechayev having the same at some point or another on TNG.

Fleet Admirals have four pips on each collar. Full Admirals have three pips for a total of six. Vice-Admirals have two, and Rear Admirals have one. Which leaves the question of what Commodores wear on their collars.

I meant Vice-Admirals have four and Rear Admirals two. I always kind of thought that Admirals had two copies of one rank insignia, one for each collar, instead of one insignia divided in two.

I don't think Commodore exists as a rank in the 24th century. (In real life IIRC the rank was phased out in the 1970's & replaced with the term Rear Admiral Lower Half. I believe someone commented on this on an old Ask The Chief column here.)

You're second post, Q, would indicate the Vice-Admirals outrank Full Admirals.

So presumably
Full Admiral = 4 'stars' per insignia
Vice-Admiral = 3 spi
Rear Admiral = 2 spi
Commodore (or equivalent title) = 1 spi

::I don't think Commodore exists as a rank in the 24th century.::

The latest edition of Star Trek: The Magazine confirms that this rank has been eliminated.

To clarify what I meant:
Admirals have three on each collar to make a total of six.
Vice-Admirals have two on each collar for a total of four.
Rear Admirals have one on each collar for a total of two.
I assume that Fleet Admirals have four on each collar, but I've never seen one in an episode or movie.
I suppose the elimination of the Commodore rank is appropriate, since Commodore is only a wartime rank in modern times anyway.

Ranks I Have Gathered:

10 Boxed Pips (Stars): Admiral Of Starfleet (Like The General of The Army) Wartime Rank
8 Boxed Pips (Stars): Fleet Admiral
6 Boxed Pips (Stars): Admiral
4 Boxed Pips (Stars): Vice Admiral
2 Boxed Pips (Stars): Rear Admiral

5 Pips: Commodore (Rank has Been Terminated)
4 1/2 Pips: Fleet Captain (Wartime Rank)
4 Pips: Captain
etc.

Of Course, Don't Take This As Canon Or True Accurate, But These Are The Ranks I Use In My Sims As I Researched Through The Net To Get Them Accurate Enough...

Just a thought: It's funny how Odo beat up two male security officers when rescuing Sisko, but only neck pinched a female officer. Now, I understand she was CUTE (hehe), but why couldn't Odo just morph into some tendrils and just slap everybody down?

Question: The defiant needs to get to Earth right? So why don't they cloak? I know the romulins said they can't use it in AQ, but as Sisko would say "I won't tell if you won't tell".

At the end, Sisko just lets Layton walk out on his own to submit his resignation. Is that a smart thing to do?

NANJAO: This episode reminded me of a "Twighlight Zone" episode starring Claude Ankins in which he & other people were on the look out for aliens because someone thought a flying saucer had landed. In the end, the whole neighborhood was in chaos. People were rioting & looting other people's homes. Then the camera pulled back & we saw the aliens at a control panel turning off / on the lights in the neighborhood & watching with glee as the humans attacked each other. One of the aliens commented that they (the aliens) did not need to destroy Earth, all they had to do was create mistrust & suspicion & fear and the people of the Earth would destroy it themselves.

"Twilight Zone"

"The Monsters are Due on Maple Street".

You saw that one too? That WAS a good episode!

Granted, it's been a long while since I've seen this classic episode... but I don't recall anyone thinking they saw a flying saucer. I thought it was just the power outage that led to the paranoia, pandemonium, and chaos... and it wasn't until the very end that it's revealed that aliens are involved.

Maybe it's my memory...

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that it was just a power outage too. One that even affected the cars.

I know that the recently cancelled update of the Twilight Zone also remade the episode, though this time it was a test by the military to see how people would react to a possible terrorist attack.

think its Claude Akins, John...Maple streets was a good episode too...

There was a movie about ten years ago... The Trigger Effect(?) with Kyle Maclachlan and Elizabeth Shue written and directed by David Koepp (Jurassic Park). The movie was a lot like "...Maple Street" sans the aliens. It postulated that humanity was on the brink of self-destruction, and the only things keeping us from anarchy and chaos was terchnology.

As I recall, I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, although (if memory serves) the ending was a little too cheesy and sentimental.

Darth Sarcasm: ...and the only things keeping us from anarchy and chaos was terchnology.
Luigi Novi: "Terchnology"? Is that the name for the kitchen gadgets you use when preparing a Thanksgiving meal? Or is it the medical equipment used by Donald Faison on Scrubs?

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