Anybody know who plays the federation president in this?He seems kinda familiar but i don't know where i've seen him before.

Herschel Sparber plays President Inyo. If you cand recoginize him from anywhere with all that makeup, you have better eyes than me.

Acoording to the nitpickers guide, this episode had a stardate of 49170.65 (plus two days). However, several episodes prior to this have had later stardates ('Rejoined' - 49195.5, 'Starship Down' - 49263.5) After 'Starship Down', we have two episodes, so realistically this should have a date of around 49400...

I think I've seen the guy who played the President in two Trek CD-Rom games, The Borg and Klingon.

Those sneaky people sneaked in another 47 on us.....
In the oft-reused establishing shot of Starfleet headquarters, there is a tube train in the foreground with numbers on the dividers of the tunnels.I don't think i need to tell you what one of the numbers is.

Stardate 49170.65. It just seems odd to have 2 digits after the decimal point.

Are Stardates the same all over the Federation or does each planet have its own system? In this episode Sisko gets a two day old message from Starfleet dated 49170.65.
Stardate 49170.65 - Starfleet sends the message
Stardate 49195 - Events of Rejoined
Stardate 49??? - Events of Little Green Men
Stardate 49263.5 - Events of Starship Down
Stardate 492?? - Events of The Sword Of Kahless
Stardate 492?? - Events of Our Man Bashir
2 Days later message arrives at Deep Space 9.
Either Stardates are different on different planets, or the previous episodes all happened within 2 days. (Not counting the majority of Little Green Men, of course. ;-)

Sisko tells the President that the blood screenings and phaser sweeps have been very effective on DS9. Oh, really? Just how many Changelings have they caught with these techniques? If they haven't caught any, then how does Sisko know that it works?

Shouldn't there be medical restrictions on how many of these blood screenings a person can go through in a day? Too many screenings in too short a time and that person will need a blood transfusion, which could be good for a Changeling who's getting low on stolen blood.

Nog shows up at the New Orleans restaurant for a dinner of tube worms. Now they don't say how often he shows up, but to order he calls the cook by name and orders the "usual", which implies that in his month on Earth, he has showed up rather frequently.
In an earlier episode, Sisko is telling his son about feeling homesick at Starfleet Academy and how he would transport home every night for a week, to eat dinner, and Jake comments that he must have used up a month's worth of transporter rations. So has Starfleet dispensed with Transporter rations or is Nog's order just so unusual that when they see and hear the Ferengi they know immediately what he wants? Could it be that Nog is using his Ferengi skills to acquire his classmates transporter rations so he can go to New Orleans for fresh tube worms every night?

I liked Grandpa Sisko's line, "I'm not sleeping. I'm just checking my eyelids for holes."

This story was originally suppose to be the third season finale...while a cliffhanger and "Paradise Lost" as the fourth season premiere...but the studio didn't want a cliffhanger.

I was watching this episode and it occured to me... doesn't the Federation President have a cabinet or anything? Is he really completely on his own? No wonder he's so easy to manipulate! (Think about it. Even in a parliamentary system, which the Federation appears to use, there is a cabinet.) Shouldn't Jarish-Inyo consult with his Defense and Interior (or whatever) ministers for these kind of things? Is the military really directly under the President himself?

Admiral Leyton says that among other things his men have been stocking "personal force fields". Why do we never see these at any point? Even if they are brand new and he's been limiting the supply to Earth right now, why don't we see them later, like in the siege of AR-558? It's technology we never hear from again.

Is Jaresh Inyo president of Earth as well as president of the federation. Is the UFP run like America with one president, or like the European Union with each member having its own leader, but with a central European parliment.

In response to Nog requiring large numbers of transporter rations to get to New Orleans. Whose to say he does not attend an Academy campus in New Orleans or Louisiana. These acadamy instalations must be distributed around the federal planets.

I seem to recall a line in TNG about there being two academy campuses on Earth.... one in San Francisco and the other in Paris....

I heard that this episode reminds some people of the tragic events of Sept 11,2001 in addition to the other DS9 episode "Paradise Lost". On the Voyager episode with Tom Paris watching TV which B'lanna made him, they should have showed Tom watching Garfield and Friends .

Funny, the old TOS Tech Manual had it in space, too...

Welcome back, Timothy. Check out the new 'Comic Strips' page on the Comic Books board, huh? They've got a Garfield thread and everything...

• Are tube grubs now thriving on Earth? Otherwise how does Grandpa procure the Ferengenar grubs? Interplanetary commissary shipment? Nog won't eat them if they're not alive.
• On Enterpise, is the Federation undergoing foundation? Because here, Sisko says a Dominion army invasion on Earth will wage a war Earth has not seen since the foundation of the Federation. So if the Federation has yet to be founded, are we going to see such a war on Enterprise? Klingons? I doubt it. Not with Sisko's meaning. That would be -- like -- continuity!

I believe he's referring to the Earth/Romulan war which supposedly led to the founding of the Federation.

Whether or not TPTB at Enterprise will show it is unknown.

BrianB: Nog won't eat [tube grubs] if they're not alive.
Luigi Novi: Which episode established that? And why can't they be shipped alive? Also, in one episode, he had dinner with Jake and Ben Sisko in their quarters on the station, where Sisko made squid served with a sauce of pureed tube grub.

I assume that tube grubs that have been pureed are no longer alive.

BrianB: So if the Federation has yet to be founded, are we going to see such a war on Enterprise? Klingons? I doubt it. Not with Sisko's meaning. That would be -- like -- continuity!

KAM: I believe he's referring to the Earth/Romulan war which supposedly led to the founding of the Federation.

Whether or not TPTB at Enterprise will show it is unknown.
Luigi Novi: If the one season = one Earth year system holds, the actual founding of the Federation takes place three years after Enterprise's last season.

But if Enterprise becomes a series of movies we just might see it. ;-)

Luigi, it was this episode. Nog said, "Your father [Grandpa Joe] is the only person on this planet who can get me live ones." and "Cook them?! What good are tube grubs if they don't wiggle on the way down?" So in not so many words, Nog prefers live grubs.

Also Luigi, my off-hand remark about the interplanetary commissary shipment meant Grandpa goes to great expense for his one Ferengi customer and the grubs are imported alive.

Ah.

President Jaresh-Inyo states that, "with the exception of the Borg incident there hasn't been a state of emergency declared on Earth in a century." Well, what about the Probe's attempt to wipe every form of life off the planet in STIV? That was less than a century before this episode. (If my math is right, the incident 'a century ago' that prompted the declaration of emergency would have been V'Ger's attempt to remove the carbon-based infestation on Earth.)

Another point that jumped out at me. Everyone acts surprised when the suggestion is made that the Dominion has cloaking technology. Now, when we first met the Dominion, their ships were way more advanced than ours. Just observe how easily they destroyed the Odyssey. If that's the case, why would the Dominion's possession of cloaking technology be such a big deal? The Romulans and Klingons have had it for more than a hundred years.

Just observe how easily they destroyed the Odyssey.

If you're going to kamikaze into a ship, it's fairly easy to destroy it.

Jesse, the whale probe incident occurred 86 years prior, so Inyo might simply have been rounding off.

Fascinating! Admiral Cartright is Sisko's dad (?) JUST KIDDING! Same person...different character

So thats what he did after he served his prison time for the conspiracy in ST-6. He started cooking.

There were quite a few episodes during the first two seasons in which Ben Sisko referred to his father in the past tense. (Like he was dead) In this episode, Sisko's father is very much alive.

NOTE: It is during this time Odo gets infected with the virus that'll effect him & other shape shifters. (Even though we don't actually SEE it happen)

"affect", not "effect".

Does Sisko and Leyton really need to get permission from the president to implement the phaser sweeps and blood tests? Base commanding officers can make such decisions on their own, as long as they are within the budget and legal. I can understand the blood tests to SF family members, because they are intrusive, but there are urine screenings all the time for active and reserve military personnel, which is more humiliating but less expensive to test.

"As long as they're legal." Well, that's the thing, isn't it? Even humans wouldn't like being phasered every time they walked in and out of a facility, right? There are implications to that tactic that probably made asking for permission a good idea.

The people aren't getting phasered, what they're carrying will be, as will rooms when "solids" aren't in there. Blood screening civilians I can understand getting permission for, but can the president impliment a SF order on civies in the first place? Also, Star Fleet and the Federation are verbally seperated many times in this arc. I thought they were one in the same.

The recurring problem with the changeling infiltrators seems to be that pretty much any mehtods of detection can be foiled.

Here's my idea (borrowing a little from a recent post on The Search): 24-hour surveilance of every single person on a starship or starbase. Hard-wire a series of cameras to a firewalled computer that automatically broadcasts an alarm if a changeling tries to regenerate or the system is tampered with. Yeah, there's the issue of privacy, but that isn't really an excuse on military ships/installations during a war.

No, it's not an "excuse", it's simply something that would preclude that plan.

I meant "excuse" in that its not something that would be used on civillians.

Regarding privacy on a starship,according to several tech manuals, the ship monitors all forms of communication anyway, so there really isn't any privacy... at least not from the main computer.

Yeah, but David was talking about surveillance of people, not just communications.

Sorry I misunderstood you, David, but such a thing could be used on military ships either. Personnel are not going to stand for being surveilled 24 hours a day, especially in the "enlightened" 24th Century Federation.

really Luigi? you best stay clear of the malls then ;)

Well, if my bedroom was a mall, then yeah, I guess I would.

Hey Everyone!

Sale on Luigi's movie collection!!

LOL. You might be surprised at how few I have, Polls. I probably have as many on VHS, if not more, than on DVD.

Did we ever once, in the entire run of the series, see a blood test successfully used to identify a changeling spy? Even in the very first episode where they were introduced, "The Adversary," we already see Changeling/Bashir has found a way to fool them. Why does anyone give blood screenings any credence at all?