Who's worse: Neelix or Jar Jar?

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By Anonymous on Saturday, August 11, 2001 - 10:15 am:

I know, I know, this should be at the Voyager board, but there wasn't a 'create new conversation' option there.

As for the topic, it's a tough call, I know.


By ScottN on Saturday, August 11, 2001 - 4:23 pm:

Jar Jar. If you think about it, Neelix was the foil for Tuvok, playing "McCoy" to his "Spock".

It may not have been done perfectly, but the interaction was there.


By Matthew Patterson (Mpatterson) on Saturday, August 11, 2001 - 7:07 pm:

Jar Jar. Why? Because Neelix actually had character development for a second there (see Mortal Coil, my favorite Voyager), even if they took it away the next week.


By Meg on Saturday, August 11, 2001 - 7:12 pm:

Jar Jar. for the reasom Matt Patterson said and becasue Neelix never talked like this---"Exsqeeze me, but the safest place woulda be gungan city, Itsa hidden city. Meesa show you, Meesa show you."


By Matt Pesti on Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 9:40 am:

Okay then, Mr. Popo or Jar Jar. Which upset the NAALCP the most?


By Sven of Nine on Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 3:09 am:

I take it Wesley Crusher doesn't come into this conversation, then?


By Anonymous on Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 8:22 am:

No, because he, thankfully, left TNG.
If Neelix left Voyager in the middle of its run, the show would've improved greatly.
We can only hope that Jar Jar gets a lightsaber up his CGI a$$ at the beginning of the next movie.


By Meg on Wednesday, August 22, 2001 - 8:20 am:

No Unfortunately not, But he is thankfully only in the moive for about five minutes.


By Anonymous on Saturday, August 25, 2001 - 7:54 am:

Oh, god, I hope so!


By Sven of Nine on Thursday, September 06, 2001 - 3:32 pm:

Neelix is better than Jar Jar for one reason: Neelix is played by a flesh and blood actor interacting with other flesh-and-blood actors as they only know how. Jar Jar is a visual effect with whom the actors interact by speaking to a tennis ball (or equivalent) and making things up as the director wanted. Note that most live action-animation mixes tend to be a highly artificial affair and only rarely does the whole thing really gel, "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" being a good example.

Incidentally, I thought one of the most silly things in The Phantom Menace was the battle scene between Gungans and Battle droids: essentially one whole army of visual effects versus another whole army of visual effects upon a live-action background (that must have been very boring to film - oh look at that grass grow, George...). Why didn't they just save the fees of Liam Neeson and co and just make Episode I an all-CGI affair? (I guess it wouldn't make much difference. :))

So yes. Neelix has the human touch; Jar Jar hasn't.


By Brian Fitzgerald on Thursday, September 06, 2001 - 6:05 pm:

Actualy the guy who was the voice and preformance model for jar-jar was on set at all times. He stood where the character would stand, read the lines, and the CGI character animation was laid directly over the man.


By nik on Sunday, April 03, 2011 - 9:28 pm:

Ezri Dax is by far the worst followed by Kes


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