Rules of Engagement

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: DS9: Season Four: Rules of Engagement
By BrianB on Wednesday, April 14, 1999 - 11:50 pm:

CONTINUITY PROBLEM (PLOT OVERSIGHT):
When Advocate Cha'Pok provoked Worf to take three swings at him he said, "I thought you told me you'd never attack an unarmed man." That's not what Worf said.
Worf replied, "No, I would not", to Cha'Pok's earlier question, "Are you telling me you would never attack a DEFENSELESS opponent?"


By Kathryn Ramage on Sunday, February 06, 2000 - 11:18 am:

Can someone who has the TNG episode "Realm of
Fear" check this for me?

When giving his testimony in this episode, O'Brien
states that he's been in Starfleet for 22 years.
But in "Realm of Fear," which occurs about 3 1/2
years before this, I think I remember him telling
Barclay that he'd been working with transporters
also for 22 years. (Okay, maybe he didn't exactly
say that he was in Starfleet for all those years
of transporter experience, but if I remember
rightly, the suggestion is that he'd been in the
Fleet at least that long.)


By Chris Thomas on Monday, February 21, 2000 - 8:18 am:

I can't believe Advocate Cha'Pok doesn't bring up the fact that Worf killed Duras in pure Klingon bloodlust after K'Ehleyr was killed, earning him a reprimand on his official record. Surely that would help Cha'Pok with his "fighting with the heart of a Klingon" prosecution?

And is it me seeing things, but is the actor playing Cha'Pok the same one who played Tuvix in Voyager?


By Mark Swinton on Tuesday, February 22, 2000 - 6:40 pm:

No, but he did appear in the Next Generation episode "The Masterpiece Society."


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Monday, September 11, 2000 - 11:40 pm:

Ch'Pok tells Sisko that the Federation will be on the defensive in the quadrant, but a quadrant is 1/4 of the galaxy. Later he does use the word sector, which I believe would be more accurate.

I like how they handled the flashbacks. Instead of just using a voice-over, actually having the character in the flashback talking to the camera was a very interesting way to do it.

Quark is at the hearing telling what he knows. In the shot where Worf enters Quark's, Quark says, "He comes in here all the time.", but Quark is currently in the wardroom, not Quark's. If Quark had only said, "He comes into my place all the time.", they would have gotten away with it.)

O'Brien is asked that if something happened to Worf, would he have taken command, and O'Brien says he would have. First, O'Brien is not an officer, and second, Kira, who has commanded the Defiant before, is on board the ship. O'Brien should have been more familiar with the chain of command.

The Defiant is the Federation's most powerful ship, but after firing at the Bird of Prey, Kira says they didn't damage it much???

I think Dax was too hesitant in answering Ch'Pok's question on whether, or not, Worf gives the order to burn the city of Tong Vey. She already answered that giving the order was the way that the program ends, so saying that he gives the command isn't as damning as Ch'Pok would like it to be. It's not as if Worf decides that instead of burning the city, he and his men will personally rape, pillage and murder everyone still left alive.

Ch'Pok says that Worf was raised on Earth. Actually he spent his early life on Kronos, then a brief stay at Khitomer, then he was taken to Galt, before his adoptive parents moved to Earth.

After Worf decks him, Ch'Pok says, "I thought you said you would never attack an unarmed man..." Well, Ch'Pok is armed, he has two arms sticking out of his shoulders. ;-)

So if all 441 'passengers' were dead before Worf blew up the ship, then who piloted the ship and dropped the cloak at just the right moment? (In Sons Of Mogh it was stated that Klingon's who committed suicide end up among the dishonored dead, so wouldn't piloting the ship be considered a 'suicide mission'?)

Also, Worf fired because he saw a pattern, others testified that they didn't see a pattern. Since the whole thing was a Klingon plot, there had to be a pattern, otherwise Worf wouldn't have fired and the whole scheme would have fallen apart. So what does this say about the pattern recognition skills of those who testified that they didn't see a pattern?

What if Worf didn't fire? Suddenly a Klingon civilian ship decloaks for no apparent reason. Then what? It recloaks and they go back to the same fire in a pattern until Worf fires? Since Worf now knows there's a civilian ship out there, it seems unlikely that Worf would fire blindly.
How did the Klingons know that Worf would have recognized the pattern at that moment and chosen then to fire? Listening device on the Bridge, perhaps?


By Spockania on Sunday, January 07, 2001 - 5:25 pm:

It has been a while since I last saw this episode, but if I recall right there is a flaw in the legal process. I may be wrong, but...

Worf is not accused of anything by the Feds. The Klingons say they want him for war crimes, but under Klingon law (here is where I am a bit fuzzy) Worfs action would not be a crime. So why is there this extradition trial?


By Rene on Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 9:18 am:

I believe Phil mentioned this problem in the DS9 guide :)


By John A. Lang on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 6:46 pm:

NANJAO: This episode reminded me of "The Drumhead" & "Tribunal"


By John A. Lang on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 5:55 pm:

TOS salute: More Klingon D-7 battlecruisers


By Dan Gunther on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 12:06 am:

I think they're the later models, called K'Tinga (sp?) class battle cruisers... D7s would be less detailed hull-wise.


By John A. Lang on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 3:56 am:

Whatever the case may be, it sure was cool. Any ship that even resembles the classic D-7's is alright by me.


By John A. Lang on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 8:27 pm:

I fail to see why a FREIGHTER would need a cloaking device. It isn't a combat vessel. IMO, cloaking devices are a strategic weapon to be used in combat.


By KAM on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 3:11 am:

Freighters can be targets in war, John. A combat vessel can at least fight back a freighter vessel usually is not made to fight so hiding it is the best defense.


By Brian FitzGerald on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 4:13 pm:

Think about what the U-boats targeted during WWII Freighters carries needed supplies from the US to Europe.


By John A. Lang on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 4:33 pm:

Ah! I get it. I never thought of it in those terms. Thanks KAM & Brian


By Kinggodzillak on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 2:07 pm:

Quark is at the hearing telling what he knows. In the shot where Worf enters Quark's, Quark says, "He comes in here all the time."...

"He barely went in there when there wasn't a strike." according to O'Brien only a few episodes ago...


By KAM on Saturday, August 13, 2005 - 2:07 am:

Muhahahahahahha...

That makes it a double-nit


By A Nitpicking Tailor on Saturday, August 13, 2005 - 8:22 am:

I've got a nice double-nit sweater for you, Mr. KAM!


By blackestnight on Monday, August 29, 2005 - 2:36 pm:

For being such battle-hardened war hero O'Brian doesn't seem like one half the time. I have been impressed with him through two shows, even though he was at one time a Lt. (which is an officer), but he only displays his quality when required by the plot.


By Mr Crusher on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 7:27 pm:

This episode was directed by the actor who played Lt Commander Geordi LaForge on Star Trek The Next Generation.


By Polls Voice on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 11:13 pm:

I take it you just now saw this episode?


By David (Guardian) on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 12:45 am:

Maybe I'm missing something, but was it not completely and totally obvious that this was a setup from the beginning? Worf specifically said he saw a pattern and, lo and behold, a ship decloaked right where he said it would!


By John A. Lang (Johnalang) on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 6:18 pm:

Why didn't Sisko take some of the blame for sending Worf out to battle against the Klingons?
I mean, it WAS Sisko's idea to begin with!

Granted, Sisko felt Worf had Command potential, but he should've waited for a different battle where the Klingons were not involved.


By LUIGI NOVI (Lnovi) on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 8:13 pm:

Because he can't just keep Worf cooped up in the station and have him abstain from battle every time it turns out to be the Klingons. He didn't know that the incident would happen, or that Word would make a mistake. Keep in mind that since The Way of the Warrior, they could expect to engage the Klingons in battle quite often.


By John A. Lang (Johnalang) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 6:12 pm:

I see your point.


By Chris Booton (Cbooton) on Wednesday, April 03, 2013 - 6:18 pm:

Sisko says that Worf was irresponsible by firing before knowing what he was firing on. However, Sisko forgets that if the decloaking ship was military and managed to destroy the Defiant, the convoy would have no one left to defend them! Worf needed to think of that convoy as well as the Defiant. As well, the colony needed that convoy.


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