My friend told me Final Fantasy 7 for the PC is not as good as the Playstation(PSX) version...Now, I have played some of the PSX version, and it seems to me that the PC version should be better since it has hardware graphics acceleration capabilities, better CD Rom, better processor...so, is FF7 as good on a PC as it is on a PSX?
Go ahead and list other games if you want!!!
Thanks.

Here's something interesting- N64 games, when emulated by a PC (I don't support illegal copying of software) look a lot better. They are also pretty small- I heard that Zelda 64 is a 20 MB download!

Zelda is 32 Megs, ecause its on a 256 MBit cart (do the math 256/8 = 32) compressed it could probably get to 2 megs though.

I howeer have the actual Zelda64, and can enjoy it on my 32" TV, and play it wth the controller it was designed for, not some hokey keyboard commands. Thats 2 adavntages right there.

Are you saying the piece of badly designed done on the cheap over expensive annoying piece of **** is an advantage!

I'd rather have my nice 19" monitor, in glorius 32bit colour, linked to a decent PC (which has more than 4 good games) than a huge TV linked to a piece of ****.

PCs better than platforms? Nope sorry. With N64, or PSX all you do is buy the console and the games and thats it. No need to worry about buying additional memory, a 3d card, or whether the game will run fast or crawl on your PC. And platforms don't suffer from crashes like PCs unless well...you slam the console...but even then all you do is hit the reset button...when the PC games messes up I've had to reboot the whole dang system just to make sure everything runs fine.
PC games are NOT all that. They can't compare to platform consoles.

I wondered how long it would before this argument started. I don't have time to write a full post of my views right now, so I'll just post the text from a page off my site (before anyone moans about inaccuracies, this was written a couple of years back, and I have not had time to check this).


Before I start, I must say that I don't actually dislike consoles, however contradictory this may sound. Nor do I dislike those who use them. I dislike it when those who use them claim that they are better than a PC. (i.e. they are talking total rubbish). Here are some typical console-user arguments:

My console cost about one tenth the price of a PC.

Well duh! That's like saying your alarm clock radio cost about one tenth the price of your mates flashy CD mini-system. What do you expect? A console runs games and... umm.... oh yeah, you could get Mario paint for the SNES, but apart from that nothing but games. (I don't care if they are going to release this highly suspect DD thing for the N64, when was it again, this January, no next March wasn't it. Now look at a PC, and what it runs. With a PC you can hack games, Quake being the best example. You can make pirate copies of games (I don't endorse this!!!). You can look for cheats, patches and walkthroughs for games on the internet. Aside from games, you can write letters, do spreadsheets, databases, program your own games!. I am writing this on my PC write now. How many N64 users can say they do a web page on it? Or write a letter? Oh that's right- absolutely none.

Oh yeah I forget, the funny box they give you with the PC. It isn't packaging. It is an intriguing form of device, designed to let you play games, without the use of a TV. We PC people call it a monitor (far superior to the TV), and the smaller boxes next to it- speakers. PC speakers are usually better than TV speakers, especially as most N64 gamers use a 14" TV (often very old and poor).

The games are better!

I have seen several games on the N64- Mario 64, Zelda, Mario Kart 64, a racing game of some sort, and Goldeneye. The graphics on Goldeneye may be good, but Rainbow Six is better. Mario 64 is a game for 4 year olds, and even games on the playstation are better than it- Crash Bandicoot for example. On the PC side, Tomb Raider is much more interesting. Mario Kart 64 however is a good game. As I said before, I don't despise the N64, just morons who say that N64's are better than PCs.

And how about backwards compatibility? This means that your new computer can still run your old favorites? The PC I use is about a year old, a P-266 with 64MB of RAM. It can still run the same games as an old 486. You don't get much of a result if you try and stick a SNES game into the N64.

What about price of games? N64 PC
New £50 £35
Budget £20 £10
Another thing- how many strategy or sim games have you seen on the N64? Uhhh....correct me if I'm wrong, but that would be 0. The reason- no mouse(I will come to this next.)

You don't get a controller for the PC!

Oh really, then what are the two grey things sitting in front of it. Oh yeah- the mouse and the keyboard. Plus many PC's come with excellent joysticks- more than I can say for the N64. The mouse is one of the best ways to control a GUI (Graphical user interface). Additionally, I use it on many action games as a look control. The over a hundred keys on a keyboard might seem confusing as far as gameplay goes, but anyone who has played X-Wing will tell you, they are bloody useful. You can get a controller for the PC to if you want- and you get to- shock! Horror! chose the manufacturer. The controller for the N64, or as I like to call it, the •••••• flawed piece of badly designed garbage, is well , I think you get the idea.

Ed Jefferson, I respect your opinions, but there are those of us who enjoy both PC games (like Half-Life, Starcraft, and Rainbow Six) AND N64 and Playstation games (like Goldeneye, Zelda 64, Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy 7, etc.).
Well, I didn't start this discussion to get everyone so angry, sorry if that happened.

PCs are for nerds. Consoles are for people who have a life and do not want to spend a s hitload of money

Hey as I said, I don't hate N64 or PSX games. I actually think that some games are better than PC games- MGS is a very good game. But it is a fact that a PC is better than an N64(I think that is what we are now discussing, so I'll change the title of the board. That is why it can cost ten times as much (as an aside, I recently saw a PC that can run all the lastest games for about £400- which when you consider the monitor, speakers, and the ability to do more than games is pretty good).

I apologise if my above statement offended anyone, I've read through it again, and it comes off as more inflammatory than I intended.

I deleted a pointless message from 'Anonymous', who is probably the same one that says PCs are for nerds.

Erm, so are you writing this on your N64?

And again, sorry if I offended anyone (although the N64 controller is $tupid flawed piece of badly designed garbage).

I perfer PCs for gaming because of the ability to
make addons for games, and download user created levels
Over the years I have download and played hundreds
of Doom, Quake, Shadow Warror, etc addons and I even wrote
a couple custom programs for launching games and Doom
levels that even write the options I selected to a log
file (try that on a console). And I like having all
of my games in one place, at my finger tips. And
don't forget the ability to play on the internet, and
to be able to autodownload and play deathmatches, Co-op,
teams and capture the flag with Quake.
What I don't like about PCs is that most of the newer games
require Winbloze 95, and even a 3d card, especialy if
it's a 3d game. Crashes are anoying, but don't
often happen to me (but then, most of my games
are for Dos :).

Does anyone know if the PSX or N64 version
of Quake 2 still has the "console" (pull
down Dos-like command line)? Being a Dos
fanatic, this was my favorite feature.

I wonder how Metal Gear Solid (MGS) will be on the PC later this year. I hope it will be as good as the PSX version. Maybe it will have the extra training levels and uniforms from MGS Integral?

Consoles are incredibly superior to PCs, and by the way, I'm writing this on my Dreamcast.

I originally created a new board where I posted this, till Ed mentioned this one, so I'm posting it here as well, with a few changes to it.

Who has what SW games for the PC? I'd like to know why some work and some don't. I have Rebel Assault II (the first SW game I ever bought) for Win95. I can play it just fine on my Win98 system (it's on both puters; the older one's Win95) but the joystick (MS Precision Pro) won't work with it. I'm stuck in Chapter 3, flying the Millenium Falcon thru the mining tunnels, and I can't thru it. Several weeks ago I got Force Commander but it was too hard to learn so I returned it, along with Rebellion, which it came shrinkwrapped with, at CostCo.

More recently I got Episode I: Racer, which I've had some trouble with, such as the joystick not working at first but now it does (I've no idea how; maybe it was from restarting the puter). It also froze my puter on me the other night, and right when I was about to win, too! *pout* When it works it's great...and fast! I tend to oversteer too much sometimes but I'm learning. I almost didn't get it cuz you need a 3D accelerator card but my AMD 3DNow and DirectX7.0 seem to work just fine with it. The other night I played it and it restarted my puter! How the hell did that happen?

Then I got Rogue Squandron, which downloaded fine but it won't work at all. All it does is take me back to my desktop, so I'm letting someone from work try it out on his system to see if it works there or not (he's gonna let me try Rainbow Six). A fun game that works just fine with my joystick is X-Wing Alliance. I love it! The last game is The Phantom Menace, which I've not tried yet. How is it? I know it's rather interactive with lots of CGI characters but I hope it's still fun. I've tried TIE Fighter and it's ok but I need to practice more with it. I'm not into console games but who knows, I may get one. I'm just not sure which games to get for it.

So that are all the SW games I have so far. Any help on these or other SW games would be greatly appreciated. I haven't posted many messages lately cuz of playing the games, or trying to, with the one.

Buying games for the PC is STOOPID. Why the &$%# would you do it?
With consoles all the technology you need is included with the console and EVERY SINGLE game u buy will WORK. PCs? U buy a game and it turns out: you need a new soundblaster, a new "joystick" (N64 has the best controller around. PC "smucksticks" stink!), a new 3d card or other BS to put money in more computer nerds pockets.
To hell with the Piece of C-rap (PC). Consoles are better. The only thing computer should be used for is finances, business, research, etc. It is NOT meant to play games. BTW, I've see the Star Wars games for PC: STINKAROO!!!!!!!!!!!!

I perfeer the PC because I can download demos
for it to see if they are what I want. Plus,
mny games of just about every genre are highly editable (not edible though :)
I do agree that the upgrading treadmill
that PC users often have to walk on stinks.

The other day I really screwed up my puter and had to reformat it, so you know what that means. I tried redownloading my Racer and X-Wing Alliance game disks but they wouldn't start up automatically so I could install them. I don't know if it's cuz I reinstalled Norton's Internet Security 2000 first and there's a compatibility problem or what. I don't remember if I'd installed the games when I had it the first time, but I think I did. I got rid of the old antivirus in order to install the joystick so there wouldn't be any compatibility problems there like last time. Maybe I should've installed the games before the Norton's, huh?

Silly me. Do you ever find a problem, complain about it, ask someone about it, or email about it and then find the solution yourself? I do that all the time! Bugs the hell outta me! Like, right after posting that last message I downloaded DirectX7.0a off of CNET.com (I love that site for downloads!) and then the games all downloaded. I thought they'd automatically detect whether or not you already had some version of DirectX but apparently not so. Anyway, the few games I've downloaded so far look and work fine again.

Actually, you had Autorun disabled. If that happens again, double click the MY COMPUTER and the CD Rom drive. You will see a setup, double click that and you get the same result.

Keith, I doubleclicked MY COMPUTER and the CD Rom drive but didn't see any setup, except for HearMe, a voicechat program, and I know you didn't mean that.

Also, assuming I DO have Autorun disabled, how do I enable it? Or do you mean Autoplay? That is enabled and works fine when I pop games into the CD drive but not if I leave them in it for when I start up the puter next time, but that's ok. I'll just start them from Start/Programs when I want to.

Ahh, I think I misunderstood the problem. Please, accept my apologies.

The first half of the message indicates that you have something interfering with AutoPlay (on some Operating Systems, it's AutoPlay, on some, it's AutoRun.) There is another way.
Go to Start and to run. Type:
EXPLORER D:\ (Or whatever the CD is, if not D)
A window of the contents of the CD will some up. You can then choose setup or install.

The other behaviour, after starting, is by design. Simply eject and re-insert the CD.

Sega Dumps Dreamcast game machine. The name says it all.