The Doctor, trapped on the holodeck, wonders if he is a real person.
Notes: An episode that was held from the first season.
--Richie
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By Chris Thomas on Saturday, January 16, 1999 - 11:53 pm:
Has anyone noticed Barclay's hairpiece in this one? In the original TNG ep his hair has receded a bit more than in this one and look closely, the colours of the hairpiece don't match his real hair. They did it better in First Contact.
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By Phillip Culley on Wednesday, February 24, 1999 - 11:57 am:
When Torres tells the Doctor about the holoemitters, she says that he can go on decks 1-5, engineering, the MESS HALL, and the cargo bay (emphasis mine). Isn't the mess hall on deck 2 and so already equipped with holoemitters?
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By Richie Vest on Wednesday, February 24, 1999 - 12:41 pm:
I believe until the Doctor got his mobile emitter, he could only be in sick bay and not just on Deck 2.
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By Annonymous no'1 on Wednesday, February 24, 1999 - 2:07 pm:
Richie - it's in this episode alone nit -, and I guess Phillip's point is valid, assuning the Mess Hall IS on deck 2
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By Ashley Culley on Thursday, February 07, 2036 - 4:15 pm:
Regarding the mess hall's location: on Macrocosm, the gel pack explodes in the mess hall. Later on, we hear that deck 2 is sealed off as a biohazardous area. From this, we can asume it's on deck two.
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By Brian Lombard on Thursday, March 04, 1999 - 11:43 am:
We can prove it's on deck two, according to the first five minutes of "Phage", in which Janeway
identifies it to Neelix.
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By BrianB on Friday, July 09, 1999 - 5:44 am:
Too bad this Barclay wasn't real. He might have helped V'ger get home with his short-lived knowledge of Sytherian technology (TNG's "The Nth Degree").
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By BrianB on Wednesday, July 21, 1999 - 1:10 am:
Not a big nit since it all happened in the Doctor's mind. Because of an alleged Kazon attack, transporters and turbolifts are down. Torres, ITDM (in the Doctor's mind), installed holoemitters in decks 1 thru 5 -- so far so good. Torres can't get to the injured captain in time, so she transfers the Doctor to the bridge and he revives her. Next, Neelix cries for help. He's under attack by a Kazon in the mess hall. Here's the presumed nit, Janeway says "the turbolifts are down. It'll take me a half-hour to get there."
ITDM or not, just how long does it really take to crawl from the bridge (deck 1) to the mess hall (deck 2)?
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By BrianB on Wednesday, July 21, 1999 - 1:16 am:
P.S. It might be credible if the only access is crawlways. But I assume Janeway could just descend a ladder and race thru the corridors.
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By Chris Booton (Cbooton) on Wednesday, July 21, 1999 - 10:01 am:
Is this the one where you see poor Harry in the back ground slumped dead over an exploded console?
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By Mark Swinton on Tuesday, October 26, 1999 - 11:05 am:
Yes indeed it is. Even more amazingly, subsequent shots reveal that he appears to have moved!!!!!
(I'd like to nominate this episode not only as one of Voyager's best but one of Star Trek's best ever!)
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By Aaron Dotter on Thursday, December 16, 1999 - 5:46 pm:
Chakotay, in this episode, clearly knows who Barclay is, as does the Doctor. How come in Pathfinder nobody knows who he is?
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By The Frank Conspiracy on Friday, December 17, 1999 - 1:47 am:
We loved the line about Paris being based on Cousin Frank.
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By Adam Bomb on Saturday, September 02, 2000 - 5:26 pm:
Here in New York, WWOR (Channel 9) has the first-run and repeat episodes of Voyager. This episode was run last night, after "Learning Curve" aired Thursday night. WWOR must be running them in production order. They are now in their third run, after a year of the repeats. On the prior runs, they always ran "The 37's" after "Learning Curve."
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By Gary C. on Tuesday, November 14, 2000 - 8:19 am:
Not to spoil the kudos for this episode, but I thought The Doctor should have easily surmised that he was not a real person. If the radiation was destroying Zimmerman's memory, then he would have memory gaps throughout the episode. I can't see how this would make him believe, with complete certainty, that he was a hologram. They didn't say the radiation drove him to delusion too. No amount of memory gaps would drive me to think I was an android.
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By Lord_Rat on Wednesday, May 09, 2001 - 11:22 am:
I have two nit picks also.
In the beginning, the Doctor hails the bridge
"Doctor to the bridge"
Then, the captain
"Doctor to Captain Janeway, please respond"
Right here, the computer does something completely non-characteristic. It VOLUNTEERS information. "Captain Janeway is not onboard."
Normally, in the past, there would be silence and the person would have to ask the computer to locate that person before the computer would respond that way.
My second nit is that when the doctor starts to figure out that he is a person and the others are holograms, he scans Janeway, Torres and himself. He never scans the real threat there, the Kaison. At this time, he was still sure it was him that was the hologram, so he should have checked the Kaison. Esp. if the Kaison was real, then he could have blamed the situation on that Kaison.
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By Adam Bomb on Thursday, December 27, 2001 - 1:19 pm:
In the captions for the earlier episodes, the Doctor is referred to as "Zimmerman." Also, his tone of voice seems a bit different than in the later episodes-less relaxed.
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By Anonymous on Tuesday, February 05, 2002 - 12:23 pm:
The Doctor is under a great deal of stress which might explain why his tone of voice is different in this episode.
Remember unlike Data, The Doctor does have emotions. These emotions help him interact with his patients.
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By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Sunday, March 31, 2002 - 4:25 am:
NNAN. When the Doctor doesn't know who is trying to break into Sickbay, he acts afraid. He's a hologram, why should he be afraid? But then It's All In The Doctor's Head (IAITDH).
B'Elanna warns the Doctor that if he gets to near an electrical source (or something) his "containment field" will rupture. What does the field contain? Isn't he just a combination of projected light & force fields?
(For that matter, could the Doctor turn off the light projection, but leave the force fields on to become the invisible man?)
When the Doctor was sneaking up behind the Kazon, I wondered if the Vulcan Nerve Pinch was in his database of knowledge.
47 alert. Janeway was stored in "memory block 47 alpha".
Why would Barclay's image be stored in the Doctor's memory?
In some respects the scenes with Barclay & the Doctor reminded me of Quantum Leap with Al & Sam.
Why would a hologramatic tricorder show a holodeck wall?
If 'Zimmerman' can delete characters from the program via voice, why can't he shut down the Voyager projection via voice? Or even fast forward or halt the program?
Why would holographic phasers use a real beam instead of just a light beam?
And yet another episode where all the Doctor's data could be lost because there is no backup.
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By Electron on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 2:44 pm:
Why would Barclay's image be stored in the Doctor's memory?
It's probably just some sort of "Easter Egg" like many programs have.
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By Electron on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 5:01 pm:
More on Easter Eggs.
Probably you'll have to push a certain key combination 47 times before Zimmermann and his team appear.
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By Zarm Rkeeg on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 4:25 pm:
Kmorgan, since this is a nitpicking site, I believe the term would be "holographic tricorder," not "hologramatic tricorder."
As for the answer to that question, as with most of them, as you said, IAITDH. :-)
My question, given the doctors lack of tech knowledge, and his lack of familliarity with the ship, (It's bigger than I thought...) when Barcly tells him "Aim for the magnetic constrictors," how in the galaxy does he know what they are?
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By Zarm Rkeeg on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 2:52 pm:
Just re-watched the next episode, Elogium. Just to make the mess hall deck debate a bit more confusing, the teaser for that episode has Chakotay, Kes, and Paris in a turbolift. Chakotay says "Deck 6." In the next scene, Kes and Paris enter the mess hall, and it looks like Chakotay is with them.
So... is the mess hall on deck 2, deck 6, or somewhere else entierly?
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By John-Boy on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 9:12 am:
This episode first aired on UPN 10 years ago today.
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By Mr Crusher on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 9:29 am:
Why did Zarm Rkeeg post nits about "Elogium" on this board????
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By Mr Crusher on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 2:38 pm:
This episode was directed by the actor that played Commander William T Riker on Star Trek The Next Generation.
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By Torque, Son of Keplar on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 7:07 pm:
no it wasn't. It was directed by the actor who plays Thomas Riker in Second Chances (TNG)
On second thought, I think its the actor who directed First Contact.
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By Mr Crusher on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 9:15 pm:
Why are you on my ass everytime I post who the director was? this is bordering on harrassment, and I'm getting tired of it.
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By Polls Voice on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 10:41 pm:
First off, I'm not on your "ass" as you put it.
I just find your director posts somewhat like kirk's discussion with ilia droid in Star Trek the motion picture..
who is v'ger?
v'ger is that who seeks the creator
who is the creator?
the creator is that which created v'ger.
Oh, and if you haven't noticed, I'm not the only one who's made joking additions
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By Mr Crusher on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 11:12 pm:
How would I know just how many people have made so called "joking additions" since you yourself have posted under two differant names right here today on this show board while talking to me?
And it is like you are on my ass since im the only one that gets one of your so called "joking additions".
You are no better than the spam bot that is causeing so much trouble at nitcental right now! Go pick on someone else for awhile and leave me the hell alone!
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By KAM on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 1:48 am:
I'm one of the ones (posted as Smart Alec) and it was meant humorously.
You say you don't use the actor's name because you misspelled one and someone allegedly picked on you for it. Now you get upset when people make fun of your obtuse way of posting who the director was.
There are plenty of reference books & websites that correctly spell the actor & directors names so you could easily go to (for example) IMDB, get the correct spelling, then come here & post, "This episode was directed by Johnathan Frakes, best known for playing William T. Riker on Star Trek: The Next Generation".
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By Goo enuf on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 2:24 am:
er, Kam- that's Jonathan Frakes.Or Thomas Riker. Or William T.
sometimes I tipe down Jonothan.
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By KAMea Culpa on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 4:12 am:
Thanks for the correction.
See if I'd actually checked instead of trusting to memory it would have been correct.
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By Goo Enuf on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 8:40 am:
ps, Kam- at least ScottN made those kinda errors to.
Nomad: Error! error! Error! exmaninnn (blows itself up because it thoguht Roykirk was Kirk)
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By Goo Enuf on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 8:47 am:
Kam -see the Software glitches board- Hal9000-
even made some errors in dialogue.
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By dotter31 on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 3:52 pm:
Why would Barclay's image be stored in the Doctor's memory?
He was involved with testing the program, so maybe during that testing his image was incorporated into the program. Barclay also might have done it himself.
He's a hologram, why should he be afraid?
Maybe he was programmed to have fear, even if nothing would happen to him. He may also have feared someone doing something to his program, or some unknown weapon which could destroy his program. (Like how Geordi wanted to erase the holograms in Elementary Dear Data) He has expressed other emotions, why not fear?
And yet another episode where all the Doctor's data could be lost because there is no backup.
TPTB apparently realized this since the episode Living Witness deals with a backup of the Doctor's program.
"Why did Zarm Rkeeg post nits about "Elogium" on this board????" -Mr Crusher
Because they pertained to the discussion on the location of the mess hall referenced earlier. I'll post them on the Elogium board instead, if they're not there already.
Lord Rat - 'Right here, the computer does something completely non-characteristic. It VOLUNTEERS information. "Captain Janeway is not onboard." '
Actually, no. The Doctor asks the computer where Janeway is.
dotter31 -'Maybe he was programmed to have fear,'
Which is a terrible idea. Having a superior medical specialist hampered by fear would make him prone to distraction and possible mistakes.