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By Anonymous on Monday, November 09, 1998 - 12:52 am:
Cold Fire is also a cool Rush song, & Harry doesnt die..
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By Murray Leeder on Monday, November 09, 1998 - 9:25 am:
A couple of odd homages in this episode. "Suspiria" is a reference to Dario Argento's famous horror film. Tanis is most probably a reference to Dragonlance.
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By BrianB on Friday, July 09, 1999 - 6:44 am:
Suspiria's spacestation is inhabted by Ocampans who live to be surly teenagers. Looks like this was an attempt to extend Kes' nine-year contract (on life). Soon she can learn to drive, and if lucky, buy tobacco and alcohol.
Here Kes puts Tuvok thru premature Ponfarr. Isn't Ponfarr "the burning of the Vulcan blood"?
The Caretaker was an old man. Suspiria, we saw, was a little girl. WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?!
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By cableface on Saturday, August 21, 1999 - 9:46 am:
Well yeah, but not the literal burning of the blood.
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By Richie Vest on Saturday, August 21, 1999 - 4:46 pm:
Uh, Perhaps That was form she choose to be seen at that point I am sure she is not actually a little girl
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By BrianB on Saturday, August 21, 1999 - 8:29 pm:
Laugh with me fellas!
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By Mark Swinton on Tuesday, October 26, 1999 - 12:51 pm:
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
(Just trying to humour you, sir.) In actual fact, who's to say that the Caretaker or Suspiria were that young/old? The Caretaker in the pilot appeared as an old man because he wanted to portray the "banjo-playing old country folkman" in his simulation. And of course when Suspiria gets nasty on Janeway near the end ("You killed him. Now I will kill you..."), her voice changes to sound like a much older woman.
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By Palandine on Monday, April 02, 2001 - 2:00 pm:
Guest star alert: Tanis was played by Gary Graham, who played Sikes in the tv series and tv movies "Alien Nation."
FWIW, the lovely and talented Eric Pierpoint, who played Francisco in "Alien Nation," guest starred in "Barge of the Dead" (he's guest starred in all three post-TOS series)--pilot of the barge, I believe (it's been a while).
I'm a big "Alien Nation" fan and wish the Sci Fi Channel would re-start the series.
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By Spockania on Monday, April 02, 2001 - 5:42 pm:
Janeway's diplomatic skills seem absolutely pitiful in this episode. Janeway is told her ship is seen as a sort of pirate ship, travelling about looting, plundering, and fighting. When asked if she wants to find Suspiria to kill her, Janeway then says she just wants to find Suspiria because she has technology that could get Voyager home.
Just like that. No basic reassurance like "we just want to ask for the loan of her technology" or complete subjection like "we want to beg her help getting home". Just "She has technology and we want it." Janeway knows she is dealing with a very paranoid people, and yet she acts exactly like the pirate they fear.
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By Palandine on Tuesday, April 03, 2001 - 8:12 am:
Does Janeway know that Tuvok is allowing (encouraging?) Kes to spy on the private thoughts of the crew? And why would Tuvok, who so greatly values his own privacy, encourage another to violate the privacy of the crew?
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By Adam Bomb on Saturday, March 23, 2002 - 12:03 am:
Question-Did the original network version have the Majel Barrett-narrated preamble (recapping "Caretaker") or was that added for syndication? I don't remember it being on this ep in its first run.
For the past few weeks, the "Voyager" repeats in syndication sport the new Paramount "90th Anniversary" logo, while the Next Gen episodes on TNN do not.
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By LUIGI NOVI on Saturday, March 23, 2002 - 10:33 pm:
I distinctly remember the recap, Adam.
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By Tanis the Menace on Friday, May 31, 2002 - 2:08 pm:
1. Let's use the caretaker's remains as a compass! But once again the Voyager crew seem to be forgetting that space is three dimensional, how come the so called "carcass compass" was only spinning around on the one plane? It should be pointing up and down at an angle as well.
2. It seems that the compass thing worked, and the sensors are now picking up a lifesign. I've really got to wonder how the sensors can pick up a lifesign and yet not tell you the location of that lifesign! It defeats the entire point of using them if the result they give you is "Oooh yeah. They're out there alright!"
3. So they've followed the caretaker compass to what presumably would be the location of the female caretaker. Except she isn't there. There's a bunch of Ocampa on a mini-array. So why did the caretaker's remains take them there? Why didn't Voyager continue to use the carcass as a tricorder and try honing in on his mate composed of the same elements as he is or was?
4. Why is Tanis allowed to strut around without security? I realize that as far as everyone else is concerned, the guy is not really an enemy, but it could still be an elaborate deception! Remember, the enemy is more than capable of thoroughly being discrete and tactful.
5. Tanis asks if he can access the communications equipment to call the female caretaker. He gets the go ahead to use Tuvok's console. Tuvok's console is the weapon's console. You want to use communications, you go to Harry's console. Bravo to Tanis though, he manages to use a Federation console and he's never encountered one before.
6. Why are so many flowers needed on Voyager anyway? Couldn't the space and hydroponics equipment be better used for growing vegetables for the galley?
7. Janeway goes into engineering and finds Torres and Tuvok hanging from the roof. It seems that the female caretaker somehow selected those two to hang from there and has stashed all the other crewmembers in a nearby Jeffries tube (there were a lot of people in engineering and that's the best solution I could come up with). I find it strange that only Tuvok and Torres were up there. Could the female caretaker somehow know that they were senior officers and, therefore, close to Janeway? It's a bit of a stretch putting it down to random luck!
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By Anonymous on Friday, May 31, 2002 - 2:26 pm:
The flowers could be edible, and some flowering plants have edible roots and leaves.
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By Tanis the Menace on Saturday, June 01, 2002 - 4:18 am:
Yeah, but who wants to eat leaves and roots (besides Neelix)? For all of the pot shots they take at Neelix's cooking, I'm sure the crew prefers his trail mix over leaves and roots, even real hair pasta and rootin' tootin' Western chili chock full of jalepenos.
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By Anonymous on Saturday, June 01, 2002 - 12:00 pm:
What do you think lettuce, turnips and potatoes are. True these plants don't have flowers, but some plants with editable leaves and roots do.
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By Tanis the Menace on Saturday, June 01, 2002 - 3:35 pm:
Lettuce, turnips and potatoes are the heads of plants (crops) you harvest and discard the leaves and roots, which are fine for cows, goats and sheep, but people when given a choice (and not playing Survivor: Basics I & II) will take the raw turnips, onions, eggplant, cabbage, etc. over leaves, husks, branches, bark, brambles, roots, etc. every time.
I hope you understand what I'm trying to get across. This was the general oversight of the writers/producers. If the resources on Voyager were as limited as it was initially stated, which gave us replicator rations and Neelix as the chief procurer of fresh food products, then filling the hydroponics bay with non-crop yielding pretty flowers is just excess. But that's never stopped Voyager from living the life of Riley, often replicating their Lean Cuisine rather than having the hash cook (Neelix) mix some up for them. They're replicating things left and right with little mention of their account balances of rations. Oh sure, there is the occasional "I gave up a weeks' worth of rations..." but I highly doubt any crew member has ever missed a meal. Forget TV sets and juke boxes.
Kes can grow all the flowers she wants as it doesn't take much Voyager resources (besides basic life-support) to maintain them. And since Voyager has replicators and real food stores, her flowers don't impact life functions of the crew. There not essential except only that they give Kes something to do when not hanging with the Doctor or any other senior staff. That, or are the flowers to be their backup oxygen source?
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By Jwb52z on Saturday, June 01, 2002 - 5:52 pm:
::5. Tanis asks if he can access the communications equipment to call the female caretaker. He gets the go ahead to use Tuvok's console. Tuvok's console is the weapon's console. You want to use communications, you go to Harry's console. Bravo to Tanis though, he manages to use a Federation console and he's never encountered one before.:: Tanis the Menace
I would imagine any area of the bridge could be used to send messages. It would not make sense for every crew member to ask Harry to do the message sending every time. By the way, a telepathic being could probably scan the device, using the intense powers he showed, to understand how to operate the controls.
::7. Janeway goes into engineering and finds Torres and Tuvok hanging from the roof. It seems that the female caretaker somehow selected those two to hang from there and has stashed all the other crewmembers in a nearby Jeffries tube (there were a lot of people in engineering and that's the best solution I could come up with). I find it strange that only Tuvok and Torres were up there. Could the female caretaker somehow know that they were senior officers and, therefore, close to Janeway? It's a bit of a stretch putting it down to random luck!:: Tanis the Menace
Once again, a powerful telepathic enabled being could do alot of things. It would be a mere act of reading minds to find out who Tuvok and Be'lanna are in the first place.
::Yeah, but who wants to eat leaves and roots (besides Neelix)? For all of the pot shots they take at Neelix's cooking, I'm sure the crew prefers his trail mix over leaves and roots, even real hair pasta and rootin' tootin' Western chili chock full of jalepenos.:: Tanis the Menace
If you want to complain about roots and leaves, don't eat lettuce or cabbage or carrots or any number of vegetables. That's all some vegetables are in reality. By the way, some things humans eat ARE leaves and roots, such as these. It's just the truth. If you don't think so, ask a real farmer.
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By Eight of Nine on Sunday, September 05, 2004 - 5:34 pm:
>>> Anonymous: True these plants don't have flowers, but some plants with editable leaves and roots do.
I didn't realise you could edit vegetables ... I'll have to try that next time I'm cooking!