By Aaron [Anadler] on Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 8:19 am:

All I have to say is this:

"I bet she gives great oo-mox!" is right out of Spaceballs: the Movie!

In Spaceballs, Dark Helmet watches a nurse leave the room and then says:

"I bet she gives great helmet!"

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By Corey Hines on Saturday, November 11, 2000 - 2:32 pm:

Why didn't they try to stay current and get new uniforms like the hologram was wearing?

This might be chalked up to the Ferengi's inaccurate info when the Holo-Barcly said 7o9 was the only Borg to return to humanity since obviously Picard did.

Given Troi's outfits during the run of TNG, why did she cover herself up when Barclay arrived on the beach?

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By Rene on Saturday, November 11, 2000 - 2:34 pm:

Maybe because now it's only for Wil Riker to see ;)

How many TNG characters were mentioned. Data, Riker, Geordi. And even a DS9 reference (Dabo Girl)

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By Brian Lombard on Saturday, November 11, 2000 - 3:17 pm:

In the second to last DS9 episode, Rom was named Grand Nagus, and Zek and Moogie entrusted him to bring about a kindler, gentler Ferenginar. Given the three Ferengi in this episode, it looks like he failed.

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By TomM on Saturday, November 11, 2000 - 3:24 pm:

Brian-

It's only been three years in a campaign to change the hearts and minds of an entire people. Give it time.

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By Brian Lombard on Saturday, November 11, 2000 - 4:32 pm:

Change was already well underway before Rom made Nagus. Remember, Rom was appointed Nagus because the new society was already in place. Initially Quark thought he was named Nagus, and after Brunt showed him all the philosophical changes that had been occuring on Ferenginar over the past few years, Quark realized he wanted no part in it, which was good, since he wasn't being named Nagus anyway. My point is that the new Ferenginar way seems to have been, according to DS9, accepted by the populace. The three featured in "Inside Man" would then appear to be rogue Ferengi.

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By Aaron Dotter on Saturday, November 11, 2000 - 5:58 pm:

I guess that message that Voyager gave to that Romulan from the past did do something; Barclay says that the Romulans have been interested in Voyager. I wonder if the Federation has wondered why?

Just a note: I believe that the Ferengi bridge was a redress of the Defiant's bridge.

They have not been consistent with the manner in which they transfer a hologram to the emitter. In some episodes the Doctor just slaps it on like a badge, in others (like this one) they make a big production about downloading a hologram into it(like it's an mp3 player or something)

Are these the only three Ferengi on the ship? A Ferengi Marauder is a big ship, in one TNG episode Worf said that the standard compliment of one was 400. It sure did't look like there were that many Ferengi on the ship. I suppose it could be a different class of Marauder.

I think that it is Commander Harkins that needs a vacation, not Barclay. THis is the second time that Harkins did not listen to him.

I thought that Marina Sirtis did a good job in this episode, as did Dwight Schultz.

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By Spornan on Saturday, November 11, 2000 - 6:16 pm:

Woo hoo! Welcome back Nitcentral! I can finally post all my built up nits!

Impulse at the beginning. If even that. Big surprise.

Getting a little tired of seeing Barclay. I do like how confident he designed his hologram to be though. At least SOMEONE is staying in character. Assuming the Hologram is telling the truth, which I doubt.

Seems pretty obvious to give barclay the emitter.

More impulse. Racin' home!

Voyager. "The Miracle Ship". Yeah, it's a Miracle there hasn't been a mutiny yet.

I guess Tom forgot that they actually used the Slipstream drive to get pretty far.

Reg tells Seven that "no one has ever [regained their humanity after being assimilated]" guess he forgot about Picard, Hugh, and that faction of the borg that broke off from the collective.

Voyager's going at warp! WAHOO!!!

Gee. What a coinky-dink. Troi is in an episode with Barclay. Whoda thunk it?

BTW: Marina Sirtis still looks great.

It's nice for comic relief, but why does Barclay have to where sunscreen on his nose? Wouldn't there be something better to use?

Sadly, when they went back to Voyager after the scene with Reg and Deanna on the beach, I was a little disappointed. Even moreso when I saw them at Impulse.

Reg's little impersonation was funny, but not THAT funny.

"Pardon my friend here. He's convinced we're going to spend the rest of our days in the Delta Quadrant"--Harry. Y'know, Tom is fast become my favorite character. He seems to be the only one who realize they aren't even trying to get home! ARGH!!

Reg's boss (I forget his name) says that the nearest ship can go .7 light years in 2 hours at maximum warp. That would be 70,000 light years in about 16 years (rounding up to 1 light year. It's an estimate, but still far less than 70 years.). I realize that's Maximum warp, but Voyager is supposed to have a cruising speed of a very high warp. 9.95.

Voyager is going warp again! Twice in one episode! What's the world record?

It's sad how much convincing Janeway needed from Holodoc to check Reg's program. He's been with them for 7 years, earning their trust. He should only have to say "I think it would be a good idea to check" and they should do it.

Warp a third time! HOLY MOLY! This is historical!

Gee, who didn't think HoloReg would use his voice impersonation for evil purposes?

Multi-phasic shielding? That anything like META-phasic shielding?

And of course, end of the episode...streaking home at the speed of impulse! Huzzah! All is right with the world.

It's hard to take Harry's depression seriously, considering the stars in the window are at a dead halt!

Harry: Oh, woe is me! I'll never get home to eat my mom's apple pie!

Tom: Maybe if we could somehow get the Captain to engage the Warp drive...

Harry: Stop talking crazy!

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By Benjamin Daniel Cohen (Bcohen) on Saturday, November 11, 2000 - 7:20 pm:

Alright! Nitcentral!

Nits:

Harkins really needs to see a doctor. He's getting a severe case of CDECLBTOHP (Chronic Don't Even Consider Letting Barclay Try Out His Plan) syndrome.

I guess Reg didn't take too much of a shining to Harkins's sister.

Tom's skepticism and Harry's optimism about getting home was extremely reminiscent of that one M*A*S*H episode where there was talk of a cease fire, and Trapper was really skeptical, and Hawkeye was really optimistic.

Harry must be the most gullible person in the universe. Tom and B'ellana actually manage to convince him that an Iconian Scientist has offered to help Voyager get home with an interdimensional gateway. I suppose this is possible, seeing as how the ancient Iconians were spread throughout the universe via their portals, but it seems extremely improbable.

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By Rene on Saturday, November 11, 2000 - 8:19 pm:

And aren't the Iconians extinct or something?

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By Mandy on Saturday, November 11, 2000 - 8:27 pm:

How did the real Barclay know where the datastream terminated? Did it "reflect" off something like a flashlight beam? I love that it was the Ferengi though; I'd forgotten about them from the previews.

"I can't afford to have you going off on a tangent, not again." What? Just whose tangent allowed Starfleet to communicate with Voyager in the first place? Pete has a pretty short memory!

Was it me or did Barclay seem a lot less hesitant than he usually does? Maybe the actor had trouble differentiating Barclay from his hologram.

So how come they could receive telemetry through the fold, but not a comm signal? They're the same thing (physcially speaking).

Since Reg completed his transport to the escape pod with Seven, why weren't they on it?

And I wouldn't use Picard to discount Reg's statement about Seven being the only one ever de-Borged. Picard never really quite made it to total Borgdom as Locutus; Hugh, of course, is another matter.

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By ScottN on Saturday, November 11, 2000 - 8:54 pm:

Hey! Continuity! Tom remembered two times they thought they'd get home. "Hope and Fear", and "Bliss". It's about time!

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By TomM on Saturday, November 11, 2000 - 8:55 pm:

Reg tells Seven that "no one has ever [regained their humanity after being assimilated]" guess he forgot about Picard, Hugh, and that faction of the borg that broke off from the collective.

Seven of Nine, Third of Five (Hugh), and Locutus (Picard) were all different(and the two Delta Quadrant groups are probably not public knowledge). Their assimilations happened at different ages, lasted for different lengths of time and were ultimately resolved differently. As such, Seven is unique.

Although Reg could have phrased it better, he was descibing public sentiment, and the odd thing about this conversation is not what Reg said, but that Seven (who never accepts anything at face value) didn't nitpick it.

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By Spornan on Saturday, November 11, 2000 - 10:29 pm:

Actually I meant the faction of Borg in "Descent I+II" at least a hundred borg that became individuals.

There have a been a lot of Borg who became assimilated and then regained their humanity. Seven, at least, should know about them.

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By TomM on Saturday, November 11, 2000 - 11:34 pm:

While Hugh's collective did aquire the taint of individuality from him, they did not truly become independant, and so could not really be said to have regained their humanity. The two Delta Quadrant groups came a lot closer, but only Picard (who was only Borg for less than two months) and the children acheived the kind of total return that Seven has.

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By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Sunday, November 12, 2000 - 3:11 am:

Why would sending a hologram be too much for the system? It seemed to work fine in Message In A Bottle & Life Line.

Harry seems a little cavalier about burned out systems. Do they have lots of spares?

Why would the magnetic energy of red giants be any different than the magnetic energy of any other star? Also how could the Alpha Quadrant know that Voyager would be approaching just the right star?

I guess 3 months have elapsed since Repression.

Missed opportunity. When holo-Barclay walks up to Neelix, scratches Neelix behind the ears and says, "Good kitty. Good kitty."

So, to use a transwarp conduit, Borg ships must project a structuring field ahead of them? How did the Enterprise, Voyager, Delta Flyer, & Raven survive their trips through transwarp conduits then?

Wouldn't Icheb also have nanoprobes in him? Why didn't holoBarclay try to grab him as well? Or at least make a report about him to the Ferengi?
("No! Don't bother with the boy! Guest appearances cost too much latinum!")

The Dragons had just won the pennent. Sounds like a baseball team. However, Baseball ended in the 21st century. (And I doubt the baseball teams that Kasidy Yates mentioned as starting up on a DS9 ep could have become so popular so fast.)

Leosa says, "I work at a Dabo table & I know when someone is bluffing." Isn't Dabo a roulette style game? Why would you need to bluff?

Isn't Troi's technique a conflict of interest? (see NextGen's The Price)

So why did this star 30,000, or so, light years away react to the folding? A little far away to be a sympathetic vibration, don't you think? Did other red giants fold as well?

Harry was incredibly dumb to fall for that Iconian comment.

Mandy, Janeway ordered Harry to beam 7 & holoBarclay off the escape pod.

And to nitpick some fellow posters. Not all of the Borg who regained their individuality regained their humanity, because not all of them were Human to begin with. ;-)

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By Spornan on Sunday, November 12, 2000 - 4:43 am:

Ooh, good point. Though the three main ones Picard, Hugh (At least he looked human), And Seven are.

There seems to be enough Ex-Borg to start a small colony.

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By Rene on Sunday, November 12, 2000 - 11:14 am:

Tom said, "only Picard (who was only Borg for less than two months"...Um...less than a week actually. 6 days according to Ds9's "Emissary"

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By TomM on Sunday, November 12, 2000 - 11:45 am:

I couldn't recall exactly how long, or in which ep it was stated, so I opted to err on the side of overestimation, figuring that when someone corrected it (and this being a nit-picker board I knew someone would), it would only make the point stronger.

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By WhoreBath on Sunday, November 12, 2000 - 1:52 pm:

Through the episode it seems established that Troi can read LaShonda, or LaTrixta, or whatever Barclay's ex-squeezes name was. When they asked her what the Ferengi's plans were, she said she didn't know. Troi said she was telling the truth. But, just a few moments later, LaBimba tells Barclay that they were after Borg nanoprobes. So she can fool Troi?

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By Spockania on Sunday, November 12, 2000 - 3:18 pm:

The dabo girl was probably just an airhead. Still, why does Reg keep his discovery of the nanoprobe goal secret? It's not like his superiors wouldn't believe him, he DOES have proof and its not like there are a lot of competing theories. It's just unnecessary suspense.

Methinks Reg is getting a wee bit too close to stalking Troi here. It also has shades of "What About Bob?". Not necessarily a nit, though, I suppose.

Am I misremembering, or was the last time we saw Troi and Reg toast it was to Reg dating a relative of his boss? Here it seems they either were drinking to this dabo girl or they had another toast at another time. Not impossible, but it seems unlikely since Troi does have other duties and I doubt it would be that good an occasion to celebrate Reg casually dating or somesuch... Seems odd.

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By Mandy on Sunday, November 12, 2000 - 3:45 pm:

>Mandy, Janeway ordered Harry to beam 7 & holoBarclay off the escape pod.<

Ah, must've missed that.

And speaking of regained drones, seems we've also forgotten about those Borg from an earlier espisode who were trying to restart a collective of their own, the ones that hijacked Chakotay's mind to help them. Wonder if they ever managed to create that kinder, gentler collective?

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By Shane Tourtellotte on Sunday, November 12, 2000 - 4:34 pm:

I wondered how Starfleet would know their geodesic radiation inoculation would work on unknown species like, say, Talaxians. Then, of course, we learned it was all a hoax ... but did nobody in the crew ever think of this? Or were they unconcerned about Neelix's fate?

Reverse 47: Holo-Reg quotes the 74th Rule of Acquisition.

What are the Ferengi doing still being greedy? I thought Grand Nagus Rom had instituted the Great Socialist Revolution among their people. They aren't allowed to be bad anymore. Stop that, you three! Right now!

Again, Voyager is back to being 30,000 light-years away from Earth, where in "Repression"(about 120 stardates previous, say a month and a half) they were 35,000 light-years distant.

When Starfleet sends the Carolina after the Ferengi ship, we're told they are .7 light-years distant, and will take 2 hours to intercept. Later, Deanna says they will reach the Ferengi within the hour, implying that more than half the time has passed. Later still, though, we're told the Carolina is still half a light-year away. They should have covered more space than that by now.

Would it have been impossible to use the copy of the Holo-Reg that Reg had to send the false message to the Ferengi, instead of using his own stammering, unconvincing self? Besides which, this red giant is pretty distant, yet there is no signal lag in communications. Does that seem right?

Neelix's version of Harry's mother's apple pie is green, with a uniform creamy texture? That looked more like Key Lime pie to me. Is this just another one of Neelix's culinary torture methods, like we saw last week?

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By Sparrow47 on Sunday, November 12, 2000 - 7:11 pm:

Troi's Betazoidness (Betazedness? Betazanity?) seems in flux in this episode. She tells Leosa she's Betazoid when she's only half-Betazoid (right?). Okay, maybe she is bluffing into getting the Dabo girl to think she can read minds, BUT then she goes onto to say she can only read emotions, thus nullifying the whole deal. Whoops.

Also, the whole deal with the fold seemed waaaaaaaaay beyond plausibility.

A few people have mentioned this, but there really is no reason for the Voyager crew to be wearing the old-style Starfleet uniforms nowdays. I guess the only time we'll really see this is when V'ger gets home and they settle up at command.

Interesting how the only species the schoolchildren mentioned were from the beginning of the Voyage. Also note how this one elementary level class has less than a dozen kids! Kudos to 24th century education (but are they taking pre-calc...)

7/9 giving oo-max:

Ferengi: (nonsensical grunt)

7/9: This is a highly inefficient use of my time. (Twist)

Ferengi: AIEEEEEEEEE!

The new board looks good, and the spell checker is a nice touch!

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By D.W. March on Sunday, November 12, 2000 - 10:30 pm:

This show had excellent continuity. It was nice to see references to Voyager's earlier adventures as well as things like the Iconians, the Enterprise crew, et cetera.

I didn't see many nits but I wonder about a few things:

Are Borg nanoprobes THAT valuable?
Why doesn't Reg tell Harkins about the Ferengi plot? Presumably BORG technology in the hands of scheming Ferengi (who will sell it to the highest bidder) is NOT A GOOD THING.
Troi seems surprised to find out that Barclay is still neurotic.
That pie did look weird. What kind of apples did Neelix use in it? No wonder Harry doesn't want to try it.
Speaking of Harry, he is gullible. An Iconian scientist? The same Iconians that have been extinct for about 10,000 years?

Personally, I was glad to see hardcore capitalist Ferengi. It's proof that Quark's counter-revolution is having some effect. Either that or not all Ferengi decided to follow Grand Nagus Rom. Perhaps Voyager won't screw up the post-DS9 alpha quadrant so badly after all...

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By Anonymous on Monday, November 13, 2000 - 8:58 am:

Why wouldn't Barclay be viewed as a security risk considering his choice of girlfriends?

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By ScottN on Monday, November 13, 2000 - 9:00 am:

That pie did look weird. What kind of apples did Neelix use in it? No wonder Harry doesn't want to try it

Yeah. It looked like Key Lime pie with a top crust!

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By Jason on Monday, November 13, 2000 - 11:02 am:

Well, either Neelix really screwed up the apple pie recipie, or the replicators are malfunctioning, or apple pies have dramaticaly changed.

That, or someone messed up.

One thing about the Barclay Hologram... If that was the "Abridged Version," why did't the crew grow suspicious when we see all sorts of usless personality things, the voice emulation, hitting on 7, ect. Shouldn't the personality be the first thing to go to save space?

By Ghel on Monday, November 13, 2000 - 2:00 pm:

The "Barclay Hologram" was abridged by Microsoft. :o) They removed his engineering skill and error correcting routines to save space for extra comic relief. Barclay also comes with a neato dancing paperclip.

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By johnstone on Monday, November 13, 2000 - 2:44 pm:

oeeo when i am six

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By Josh M on Monday, November 13, 2000 - 5:53 pm:

In the second to last DS9 episode, Rom was named Grand Nagus, and Zek and Moogie entrusted him to bring about a kindler, gentler Ferenginar. Given the three Ferengi in this episode, it looks like he failed.
It's only been three years in a campaign to change the hearts and minds of an entire people. Give it time.
In the second to last DS9 episode Zek and Moogie trusted Nog to make a kinder, gentler Ferenginar. Given the 3 Ferengi in this episode, it looks like he failed.
It's only been three years in a campaign to change the hearts and minds of an entire people. Give it time

It's been more like one and a half years

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By Andy Rooney, curmudgeon on Tuesday, November 14, 2000 - 10:34 am:

Didja ever notice: that a Ferengi spaceship looks just like a McDonald's hamburger with five bites taken out of it?

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By Merat, the librarian on Tuesday, November 14, 2000 - 9:34 pm:

Did you ever notice; Voyager looks kind of like a phaser with two warp nacelles slapped on?

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By Steve Oostrom on Tuesday, November 14, 2000 - 10:29 pm:

Interesting episode... and good to see a Ferengi Maruader ship. We went through seven seasons of DS9 without seeing one. I also like the return of the Ferengi to their original, greedy, captialistic selves. I never did like the portrayal of the Ferengi in DS9, since they came across more as a parody than a race.

As for the Iconians... I think that if Voyager had encountered the Iconians, Kim would already know about it and would not have to listen to the rumours given to him by Paris and Torres. It is certainly possible that some might still be around. Their gateways could take them to anywhere in the galaxy, and although the majority might have died out, it's certainly possible that some groups somewhere might still be present.

So Voyager is 30,000 light years from home. Why are they still in the Delta Quadrant? Wouldn't they be in the Beta Quadrant by now? Are the quadrants all roughly similar size, or is the "Delta Quadrant" the name given to the totally unknown 50-60% of the galaxy?

What was it with the stuff on Barclay's nose? The 24th century doesn't have better protection against sunburn? Also, wouldn't Earth by the 24th century have solved the ozone problems which makes sunbathing such a concern now?

Nice to see Voyager moving at warp again, at least sometimes. Too bad that the Powers that Be can't spring for some of those warp effects through the windows shots, to at least suggest that Voyager's on the way home.

I have not been following rumours much, so I have no idea when or how they'll bring Voyager home (or even if they will), but as soon as Paris started playing his skeptical role, I knew that this was not it.

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By KAM on Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 2:03 am:

IIRC the Visual Encyclopedia of Science Fiction described Voyager as looking like a Clubheaded Cuttlefish. ;-)

Tuvok: The Borg are attacking.
Janeway: Release the ink.

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By AI Fix on Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 10:35 am:

I always thought Voyager looked like a shoe tree.

That's one thing I loved about the original Enterprise (and the refit of the original). All I can think of when I look at her is, an angel! The saucer section recalls a halo, and the nacelles are the upswept wings. Beautiful!!

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By Eric Moore on Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 10:43 am:

In case no one noticed, Barclay tricked the Ferengi into abandoning their nefarious plot by convincing them that Janeway was looking for revenge. Did everyone conveniently forget that passage through the geodesic fold was supposed to "liquefy" the entire crew? Or are the Ferengi afraid of being haunted by a ghost ship?

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By ScottN on Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 11:15 am:

Eric,

IIRC, Barclay convinced the Ferengi that V'ger had used Borg tech to create shielding that would work against the geodesic fold. Anyone want to confirm or deny that?

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By Jwb52z on Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 3:21 pm:

::Also, wouldn't Earth by the 24th century have solved the ozone problems which makes sunbathing such a concern now?:: Steve Oostrom

Even if the ozone is perfectly in tact, people would still get a sunburn on days where they just lay there without any protection. Skin sensitivity also plays a role in it too.

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By Jason on Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 6:44 pm:

Barclay probably doesn't get out much so he would probably burn rather easily.

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By PaulG on Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 8:54 pm:

Getting my nits in finally (please forgive repeats):

As a computer person, I do not understand Kim's babbling about how the transceiver buffer is not designed for photonic data. Unless the holodeck system uses some storage system that is incredibly different than the main computer (which makes little sense IMHO since there should be a way to convert the hologram to regular data and back), the buffer should be able to hold the data without a problem. Perhaps the hologram is not useable in the main system but that has nothing to do with storage. And I certainly would not expect mass degradation of the program either - any system that loses files so easily would be worthless.

I find it very hard to believe it took hours for Kim and Seven to figure out the data was a hologram. Most data files have flags that identify the type of file it is supposed to be. For example, a Word document typically has two markers - the ".doc" extension and an encoded "Word 7.0 Document" (or something similar) in the actual file data. Moreover, why not just include a brief "readme" file in a standard format to explain what the file is (this goes for the Ferengi as well)?

Wow. Pathfinder needs flashy machines to compress data. I could do the same on my old 386 with PKZIP - a very small computer program. This compression better have something to do with the transmission signal and not the data or Star Trek is devolving.

At the briefing meeting the continuity is off. Barclay stands in front of the viewscreen with the red giant thingy, covering the right half and pointing over to the left side. Next cut, Barclay is on the other side of the room and Janeway is blocking half the left side. We should have seen her in the previous shot. Computer, please search for any irregularities in the time-space continuum.

The unknown woman on the beach (before we see Deanna) wears a bathing suit which may be illegal in some states (just kidding). Good to see she has built in floatation devices as well (perhaps kidding).

Counselor Cleavage is covering up for Barclay? She apparently has no problem with total strangers on the beach looking at her boobs but Barclay is verboten. Betazed to Troi - everyone has seen your boobs from that angle. You wore more revealing clothing in therapy sessions on the Enterprise.

BTW, does Deanna look younger than in previous episodes? Less wrinkles IMHO (though quite attractive either way).

The Dragons won the pennant? The only sport that I know that uses the phrase "winning the pennant" is baseball which, according to Sisko, is not played professionally anymore. This must be new terminology or something has changed (I guess being the Emissary has its perks).

Barclay Hologram can imitate voices? Did anyone learn of the dangers of that from Data's misadventures? No on seems concerned and it burned them.

These comm channel badges sure act peculiar. Not only can Barclay speak into the badge while it is on the floor with no loss in audio quality, it closes itself when SOMEONE ELSE finishes talking. Psychic.

Kim is a doofus. IIRC the Iconian are a long dead race that created those intersystem transporters as seen on both TNG and DS9. He ain't too bright.

Finally, I am still trying to figure out how a recursive error in a logic subroutine could possibly cause Barclay to go bezerk. A typical recursive error would cause a program to crash as it ran out of memory from too many stacked calls on the subroutine. I can only theorize that the error is in the code itself and I am baffled to think 300 years from now when computers can be programmed with five keystrokes or a voice command, they leave a blatant error in a vital standard module. Torres, I need an explanation for your theory. (The technobabble giveth and the technobabble taketh away.)

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By Merat, the librarian on Thursday, November 16, 2000 - 5:56 am:

Yes, but perhapse Deanna still remembers the Deanna/Muse/Nature character from Reg's holodeck program. If someone had altered a picture of me like that (rather doubtful, as I am a male about 15 pounds overweight) I would probably feel odd around her (hopefully a her!).

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By Jwb52z on Thursday, November 16, 2000 - 2:41 pm:

PaulG, there's no guarantee that all the Iconians are dead since they could have used their own gates to escape the destruction of the worlds they were on at the time, if it happened.

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By PaulG on Thursday, November 16, 2000 - 6:20 pm:

Jwb52z: I suppose that is possible. But according to past episodes, this race is extinct (as in long dead). As others have commented, the possibility is remote and, if they did survive and contacted Voyager, Harry would be among the first to know about it. He is still a nitwit.

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By Jwb52z on Friday, November 17, 2000 - 9:27 am:

PaulG, being young and naive and really homesick does not make you a nitwit.

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By PaulG on Friday, November 17, 2000 - 11:07 am:

ScottN: I reviewed the episode and I can confirm that Barclay told the Ferengi that Janeway had developed shields to survive the fold.

Jwb52z: No, but falling for that Iconian gag does (and you do realize I am being mainly humorous in that description, I hope). Even Paris and Torres thought so. Also, Harry has been a senior officer on Voyager for six to seven years with experience that would rival any Star Fleet officer - "young and naive" really does not apply anymore.

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By Jwb52z on Friday, November 17, 2000 - 1:27 pm:

PaulG, I wouldn't exactly call Kim "old and jaded" yet.

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By AI Fix on Friday, November 17, 2000 - 2:36 pm:

If your closest friend tells you something that seems a bit farfetched, and keeps insisting it's true, and that is backed up by another close friend, the trait of believing the thing is not gullibility, it's trust. It's the same as telling a lie and saying "Psych!", as if that absolves everything. This seemed to go beyond good-natured teasing (but only just a bit.)

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By PaulG on Friday, November 17, 2000 - 6:21 pm:

AI Fix: I see your point. Still, a story said in whispers about an Iconian scientist with a way to get home ranks up there with "Bigfoot was abducted by a UFO on the White House lawn". It's possible but highly unlikely. Our seasoned ensign needs to get a little more cynical for his own good.

QUESTION: How exactly did the Barclay hologram knockout Seven? His hand enters her skull but still manages to affect something (perhaps her brain, perhaps an implant) on the inside. But IIRC, whenever the Doc is incorporeal, his body just passes through solid objects with no effect. Did Barclay make part of his hand solid on the inside? Did he stun her with an energy shock?

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By Jwb52z on Friday, November 17, 2000 - 8:27 pm:

PaulG, it appeared to be that he only phased his hand to get it inside Seven's head then gave her brain a kind of shock from the special effects.

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By Adam Bomb on Sunday, November 19, 2000 - 5:35 pm:

To those of you who saved this episode on videotape (I think I will keep it) watch the last scene. Didn't Troi lose her accent in her last line? Just like Jimmy Doohan briefly lost his accent in "Doomsday Machine" ("Thirty seconds later-POOF")she reverted to her normal speech pattern, a British accent. She (or the director) should know better, Sirtis having played this character for over 12 years.
As the head Ferengi was played by Frank Corsentino, who played Damon Bok in "The Battle," couldn't TPTB call him Bok. We know the Ferengi made Bok an outcast toward the end of "Next Gen" so this would explain his actions. (The episode title escapes me; it was the one where Bok, who was played by another actor, led Picard into believing he had a son, and threatened him.)

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By KAM on Monday, November 20, 2000 - 12:46 am:

Bloodlines.

On another board WTW said that if you use a character created by a different writer, the original author gets a royalty.

MIA - (Missing In Accent) is the Guild term. Also how many months have passed since Sirtis last used that Betazoid accent?

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By Padawan on Monday, March 26, 2001 - 1:08 pm:

Ha Ha Ha... Ferengi spy Reg with "mojo".

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By Tricorder on Thursday, March 29, 2001 - 7:30 pm:

Remember the scene from "Airplane II" when William Shatner is ranting on the moonbase? He orders his people to make the lights on the computers, which are blinking out of sequence, to blink in sequence. Then nobody has any idea what the cylindrical device with the flashing red lights is for. That device with the red lights looks exactly like the thing in the background of the control room where Barclay works. And I have no idea what that thing was used for, either.

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By Electron on Thursday, March 29, 2001 - 8:50 pm:

That's not the first appearance of this device in Star Trek (ST5, TNG a few times) and other series (Superman:L&C, J.A.G.)...

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By Admiral of the Fleet on Wednesday, July 04, 2001 - 9:47 pm:

I don't know about anyone else, but at the end of this episode when Deanna and Barclay walk off to go meet this girl that she and Riker have set up for Barclay I really wanted to see how that turned out. In other words, I cared more about a secondary character from TNG than the entire main cast on Voyager...

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By ScottN on Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 2:43 pm:

In Starfleet Communications, it looks like they have the device from Airplane 2. The one that Buck Murdoch says that they wouldn't make a device with lights that go back and forth!

It's the device with the two red laserbeams.

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By Electron on Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 8:41 pm:

This device is a veteran: At least 3*TNG, 2*VOY with Barclay, ST5 shuttle bay, Seven Days, JAG, Alien Nation, Superman:L&C, Austin Powers 2. I wonder where it appeared first?

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By Aaron Dotter on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 9:23 pm:

The first time that device appeared was Star Trek II, in the Marcuses' lab. They've gotten a lot of mileage out of it.

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By LUIGI NOVI on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 9:16 am:
Barclay: “Yeah, well, I uh, meant other than all those people, Seven…”
The Barclay hologram tells Seven in Astrometrics in Act 1 that she escaped the Borg and reclaimed her humanity, and that no one’s ever done that before. This should’ve been a clue to Seven that the hologram was a fake. First there was Picard in The Best of Both Worlds part II(TNG), Hugh in I, Borg(TNG), the drones on the ship that Hugh belonged to in Descent part II(TNG), the entire colony of ex-Borg colonists in Unity, Lancer, P’Chan and Marika Wilkara in Survival Instinct, the Borg children in Collective, and Korok and all the drones on his ship and on others in Unimatrix Zero part II.
At least he’s doing better than last week, when he told Harkins that they were conducting anal probes on him and leaving circles in the middle of his back yard corn field
When trying to convince Harkins in the opening scene of Act 2 that aliens may have stolen his hologram from the Midas Array, Barclay mentions that the Romulans have been interested in Voyager for years. Really? Where would they have heard about Voyager? And even they have, say, from their spies, how would Barclay know about this? Is this an indication that Telek R’Mor managed to pass on his message to his superiors after the events of Eye of the Needle?
She’s still adjusting to having sagging boobs after leaving the Baku planet
In the beginning of Act 4, Barclay shows up at the beach where Troi is vacationing. The moment she sees it’s him, she becomes self-concious and covers her cleavage with a towel. Why is this? First, she comes from a sexually open society where people get married in the nude, and she herself almost got married in this manner in Haven(TNG). Second, didn’t she wear a bluish green outfit with a neckline just as low during six seasons on NextGen?
And besides, Reg, all that stuff you do on the holodeck really creeps me out
Also, she tells him here that his showing up while his therapist is on vacation is inappropriate, implying that she’s still his counsellor. First of all, Troi and Barclay are no longer stationed at the same post: She works on the Enterprise, and he at the Pathfinder Project at Starfleet Communications on Earth. Given this, and the fact that Riker mentioned to Worf in the teaser of Family(TNG) that the Enterprise doesn’t get back to Earth that often, this makes the notion that they are still counsellor and patient a bit hard to swallow. Moreover, when Barclay asked Troi out in Act 2 of The Nth Degree(TNG), she said it was inappropriate to do so as his “former counsellor,” indicating that even at that point, she was no longer counselling him, perhaps because he had no longer required her services after the events of Hollow Pursuits(TNG).
Which was always embarrassing whenever they showed up at the Imaginary Sex Kitten/Dabo Slut Spy Convention
When Barclay, Troi and Admiral Paris confront Leosa in Act 3, she is wearing the exact same dress Fenna wore in Second Sight(DS9).
I knew that used starship salesman was padding the Carolina’s specs when he sold it to us!
In the beginning of Act 4, Harkins tells Admiral Paris that the Carolina is .7 light years from the red giant star where the Ferengi are, and that it can get there in two hours at maximum warp. I’ve pointed out numerous times that at Voyager’s maximum warp of warp 9.975, it can travel up to 2.739 light years a day. To travel .7 light years, therefore, would require 6.13 hours, not 2. In two hours, a ship at warp 9.975 could go no more than .22 light years.
Apparently, the geodesic radiation also affects competent directing
This confused me: At the end of the episode, the Barclay hologram beams himself and Seven into an escape pod, ejects it, and heads toward the geodesic disk. Interference from the disk prevents use of the tractor beam, Chakotay then orders Harry to beam them out of the pod. The scene then cuts to the Ferengi ship in the Alpha Quadrant, where the escape pod comes through the disk and impacts them. The Ferengi’s scan of the pod shows no one on board. Huh? The next scene features Janeway in her log voiceover saying that Seven has recovered from the hologram’s attack, and the hologram has been deactivated. I guessed from all of this that Harry managed to beam them out in time, but it would’ve been nice if the dialogue or scene explicitly stated this.
Or 3. Hope Voyager apologists will pretend not to remember those episodes
Despite the ability for escape pods and ships to get through the geodesic disk’s spatial fold, the radiation is too hazardous for people to go. I have two different solutions for this: 1. Do what the crew did in One. Put everyone in stasis except for Seven and the Doctor, who are mostly immune to the radiation’s deliterious effects, and just fly the ship through. 2. Put everyone in transporter suspension, as Scotty did in Relics(TNG), and the crew in Counterpoint, and just fly the ship through.
He never mentioned his mom liked to poison people
In the second-to-last scene of the episode, Harry is in the Mess Hall with a slice of pie on his dish, which he tells Paris and Torres is “mom’s apple pie.” Problem is, the filling is smooth, rather than filled with apple sauce and apple chunks, and it’s bright green.
Not as mean-spirited as the one Janeway pulled on him last week when she told him he was getting a promotion
In the second to last scene of the episode, Harry is despondent over their failed attempt to get home, and Paris and Torres try to convince him that they received a transmission from an Iconian scientist whose transdimensional gateway (see Contagion(TNG) and To the Death(DS9)) they can use to get home. Harry asserts that he’s not that gullible, and they continue trying to convince him of this until Harry actually shows some credulity in their story, at which point they admit they were putting him on. Now maybe I’m just not in the loop as far as the insular cultural mores that the Voyager crew have developed over the past six years regarding humor and their journey home, but am I the only one that thought this was a patently stupid, and just plain mean-spirited joke for Paris and Torres to pull on him?

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By JM on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 11:26 am:

The Barclay hologram tells Seven in Astrometrics in Act 1 that she escaped the Borg and reclaimed her humanity, and that no one’s ever done that before. This should’ve been a clue to Seven that the hologram was a fake. First there was Picard in The Best of Both Worlds part II(TNG), Hugh in I, Borg(TNG), the drones on the ship that Hugh belonged to in Descent part II(TNG), the entire colony of ex-Borg colonists in Unity, Lancer, P’Chan and Marika Wilkara in Survival Instinct, the Borg children in Collective, and Korok and all the drones on his ship and on others in Unimatrix Zero part II.
This may be getting too technical, but none of the Borg seen in Survival Instinct nor Collective reclaimed their humanity since none were humans.

In the beginning of Act 4, Harkins tells Admiral Paris that the Carolina is .7 light years from the red giant star where the Ferengi are, and that it can get there in two hours at maximum warp. I’ve pointed out numerous times that at Voyager’s maximum warp of warp 9.975, it can travel up to 2.739 light years a day. To travel .7 light years, therefore, would require 6.13 hours, not 2. In two hours, a ship at warp 9.975 could go no more than .22 light years.
Is there a reason that this ship can't be faster than Voyager (A ship seven years old by now)? The Ent-E can travel 5,000c for a short time, which i believe could easily get .7 ly in under 2 hours.

In the second-to-last scene of the episode, Harry is in the Mess Hall with a slice of pie on his dish, which he tells Paris and Torres is “mom’s apple pie.” Problem is, the filling is smooth, rather than filled with apple sauce and apple chunks, and it’s bright green.
That's the future for ya. I guess. Crazy replicators.

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By Darth Sarcasm on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 3:29 pm:

The Barclay hologram tells Seven in Astrometrics in Act 1 that she escaped the Borg and reclaimed her humanity, and that no one’s ever done that before. This should’ve been a clue to Seven that the hologram was a fake. First there was Picard in The Best of Both Worlds part II(TNG), Hugh in I, Borg(TNG), the drones on the ship that Hugh belonged to in Descent part II(TNG), the entire colony of ex-Borg colonists in Unity, Lancer, P’Chan and Marika Wilkara in Survival Instinct, the Borg children in Collective, and Korok and all the drones on his ship and on others in Unimatrix Zero part II. - Luigi Novi

Admittedly a stretch...

But it's certainly possible that Seven assumed Barclay was simply unaware of some of the specifics of Voyager's exploits... and wouldn't necessarily know that they had encountered or liberated other drones. Also possible is that Seven was simply unaware of Picard or Hugh. In I, Borg, Hugh didn't seem to know that Locutus no longr existed. And in Unimatrix, we see certain information can be wiped from the Collective.

Now, why Janeway wouldn't tell Seven about at least Picard, I dunno...

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By LUIGI NOVI on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 7:03 pm:

JoshM: This may be getting too technical, but none of the Borg seen in Survival Instinct nor Collective reclaimed their humanity since none were humans.
Luigi Novi: Pick, pick, pick!

I can either delete the references to those eps, or include the qualifier "assuming Barclay isn't talking merely about humans, but any aliens who regained their prior identities after being escaping from assimilation", and the point still stands.

JoshM: Is there a reason that this ship can't be faster than Voyager?
Luigi Novi: I suppose it's possible, but if Warp 9.975 can travel up to .22ly in two hours, then what warp factor would it have to be in order to travel three times as fast?

JoshM: (A ship seven years old by now)
Luigi Novi: Six.

JoshM: The Ent-E can travel 5,000c for a short time, which i believe could easily get .7 ly in under 2 hours.
Luigi Novi: Where was this speed established, Josh?

JoshM: Crazy replicators.
Luigi Novi: Actually, Neelix made it for him.

Darth Sarcasm: Also possible is that Seven was simply unaware of Picard or Hugh. In I, Borg, Hugh didn't seem to know that Locutus no longr existed. And in Unimatrix, we see certain information can be wiped from the Collective.
Luigi Novi: Seven knows about the events of ST First Contact, so she knows that Picard is no longer Locutus.

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By LUIGI NOVI on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 7:19 pm:

Btw, in case anyone is wondering why I chose to finish my funny headings and list the Terms in this one less-than-favorite episode of Voyager (aside from the fact that once in a while, I like to do so for an episode in my Nitpick Document at random so that eventually all of them may have them)...

Dustin Westfall contacted me regarding his entry into the next Strange New Worlds short story fan fiction anthology from Pocket Books. While his story did not make the cut, it did advance further than his entry did the previous year, and I hope he doesn't mind me tooting his horn, because I have to say that if you haven't read it, ask him to email it to you, because I really enjoyed his development of a "fill-in story" that hasn't been told yet in the continuity.

Dustin is working on his next story, and needs reference material on Admiral Paris and John Torres (B'Elanna's dad), and asked me sending him transcripts of scenes, or copies of the eps on tape, since he knows I store them on tape. When responding by listing all the later season eps in which Admiral Paris appeared, I wasn't sure if Inside Man was one of them, so I decided to go through it to check, and jotted down the terms and stuff since there was no reason not to.

Good luck, Dustin!

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By Dustin Westfall on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 2:09 am:

Not quite the way I envisioned filling everyone here in on my writing attempts (I intended to put up a simple "WHOOO HOOO!" with a link to the winners list, when I finally got it, on the Shameless Plugs Board), but since Luigi stroked my ego as well, I'll let it go. :-)

FYI - For those who care (Hello? Anybody? Echo. echo) I will be back eventually. Between work and attempting to develop a social life, there's just no time for posting. Soon though.

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By LUIGI NOVI on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 11:09 pm:

I’m sure Barclay and Troi have plenty of names for her they can’t use on TV
When Admiral Paris tells Leosa to state her name, she gives her first name, but not her last.

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By John A. Lang on Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 3:41 pm:

BEST EPISODE EVER!

Why?

DEANNA TROI IN A SKIN-TIGHT SWIMSUIT!

YEOWZA!!!! YEOWZA!!!! YEOWZA!!!!

Yummy bare naked legs!

Delicious cleavage!

PARADISE!!!!

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By John-Boy on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 3:21 pm:

"Skin-Tight Swimsuit" or not, Troi looked better in her Next Generation days. Its amazing what alittle make up and CG effects will do! LOL

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By John-Boy on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 11:42 am:

After watching this episode again today on DVD, i have to agree that Troi's cleavage was pretty "Delicious!"!

The creators did a really good job of moving this story back and forth between Voyager and Earth.

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By John-Boy on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 3:25 pm:

This episode is Troi's last appearance on Voyager.

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By John A. Lang on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 8:51 pm:

...and now she's with ME!

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By Chris Thomas on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 9:01 pm:

Re: "She tells Leosa she's Betazoid when she's only half-Betazoid (right?)"

Spock used to refer to himself as Vulcan most of the time when he's only half-Vulcan.

Spornan: I do like how confident he designed his hologram to be though... Multi-phasic shielding? That anything like META-phasic shielding?
That's what tipped me off that someone/thing had tampered with the hologram. Sure the real Barclay could've made it that way but I just assumed that was at least partly due to the Ferengi. Multi & Meta phasic shielding are not the same thing, I think.

LN: The Barclay hologram tells Seven in Astrometrics in Act 1 that she escaped the Borg and reclaimed her humanity, and that no one’s ever done that before… the drones on the ship that Hugh belonged to in Descent part II(TNG)
I'm not sure if the Lore-Borg count because although they were removed from the collective I don't believe they reclaimed their humanity/individuality, beyond what Lore taught them anyway.

How can the transciever get jammed and then explode? Sure it was a lot of information but it's a computer, not a balloon. Once there's enough data it simply stops downloading, not obtain so much that it can't handle it. The Ferengi's plan in this ep shouldn't have been possible. Doesn't the Midas Array have any sensors, somekinda transmition/receiver signal, or SF code that it's recipients would know it from them? Harry, or somebody, told the faux-holo-Reg that he would have 150 new friends when they return home. Shouldn't that number be a bit lower, like 140-145? When Troi invited Reg to dinner with her and Will he said he didn't "want to be a third nacelle." I know where he got that from but three nacelles should be a good thing; unnecessary word change IMO.

LN: The Barclay hologram tells Seven in Astrometrics in Act 1 that she escaped the Borg and reclaimed her humanity, and that no one’s ever done that before…

Jean-Luc Picard, aka Locutus, anyone?

“A few people have mentioned this, but there really is no reason for the Voyager crew to be wearing the old-style Starfleet uniforms nowdays. I guess the only time we'll really see this is when V'ger gets home and they settle up at command.” -Sparrow47

Actually, this is one of the goofiest 'nits' that I see recurring across these boards- there is really no good reason for the crew to be wearing the NEW uniforms! Think about it- stranded in the Delta Quadrant, low on resources (despite the fact that some debate that qualifier... ;-) ) and on your own, and your priority is... replicating 150 (ish) new uniforms for COSMETIC REASONS ONLY??? What the devil's the point? (Personally, I prefer the older, more colorful uniforms anyway, but even so... why in the world would that be even remotely a priority for the Voyager crew?)

I think the reason in reality for not changing the uniforms is that they were very uncomfortable for the actors to wear so they wanted to keep the old ones.

I think I read somewhere that the creators wanted to keep the two shows visually distinct.

Beyond visual distinction, which I've also read/heard, they I don't think they should've for what Zarm wrote, even though they were able to get the newer phasers type II & III.

Me: The Ferengi's plan in this ep shouldn't have been possible...
I keep forgetting Federation standard IFOS

Soooo...is Leosa a prostitute or something? Does she accept monetary compensation for various sex acts? And is this the first instance of this in Trek? I honestly cannot remember any other character buying a female for sexual gratification purposes in the entire history of the franchise, I really can't! (Well, maybe if Kirk/Shatner is involved, but still!)

This is the 24th Century right? And she really is human, right? Not one of those *other* species who just *looks* human, right? What happened to this woman that she does this? I thought no one in the Federation used money anymore. Of course, Ron Moore thought the whole thing "was a lot of hooey but Gene said that's how it was and that was that", and after he was gone, the floodgates opened and everything he didnt want and was inherently against started happening. Including the use of currency, in the form of GPL. But what can one do? Nothing, that's what.

So why was this done on Star Trek? Prostitution is condoned within the Federation all of a sudden? I mean, even in the 22nd Century, Starfleet didn't condone slavery (i.e the Orion women). So 200 years later, now soliciting "space hookers" is OK all of a sudden?

I mean, I was informed that the dabo girls on DS9 were NOT prostitutes! But it sure sounds to me like Leosa is! What's the deal with that?

And who is this Robert J. Doherty anyway? WHat are this man's credentials, and how did this lame substandard script make it past (whoever is in charge of that sort of thing)'s desk?!

And dont even get me started on the appearance of MIA (Missing In Accent) Troi. Yuuucccchhhh!!!!

And she really is human, right? Not one of those *other* species who just *looks* human, right? What happened to this woman that she does this?

Well, we really don't know how or why she ended up doing that. The writers are clearly not going to bother fully developing a one-off character that's never gonna be seen again.


I thought no one in the Federation used money anymore

That's not entirely true. Several episodes of Classic Trek made references to "credits" as a kind of currency. In The Trouble With Tribbles, when Cyrano Jones haggles with the bartender at K7 (a Federation station in Federation space), both mention credits numerous times.

In The Apple, after Spock recovers from his encounter with the poinsonous plant, Kirk chews him out and says something like: "Do you know how many credits Starfleet has invested in you?" Spock, of course, begins to reply, but Kirk stops him.

Since this happened in Classic Trek, when Gene Roddenberry was in full health and control, he clearly had no problem with the Federation using currency.


Including the use of currency, in the form of GPL

The Federation does not use GPL, the Ferengi do. Leosa worked for the Ferengi (she said she was working on one of their casino ships), so it is natural she would be paid in GPL.


Prostitution is condoned within the Federation all of a sudden?

Again, Leosa does not work for the Federation, she works for the Ferengi. Since the Ferengi Alliance is not part of the Federation, Federation law does not apply to their worlds, their ships, or anyone living on them (including humans, like Leosa).

Besides, I don't think we've ever heard of the Federation's stance on prostitution.


I mean, I was informed that the dabo girls on DS9 were NOT prostitutes! But it sure sounds to me like Leosa is! What's the deal with that

It was never stated that she was a prostitute, only that she worked on a Ferengi casino ship. Maybe she ran their dabo tables, like the girls at Quark's. As to why she did what she did here, maybe the Daimon offered her extra money.

"It was never stated that she was a prostitute, only that she worked on a Ferengi casino ship."

Yeah, but in dialogue, she said that she would do anything and be anyone. "Whatever the customer wants", is how she put it. That sure sounds like a sex worker to me. I wish Troi had told her off about how she was wasting her life working for the frigging Ferengi, I would loved to have seen that.

"The writers are clearly not going to bother fully developing a one-off character that's never gonna be seen again."

And as you could see, I already stated my opinion of this episode's writer. This script really stunk. And there were Ferengi in it to boot! But why am I bitching and moaning about it now, over a decade after the show ended? It was the final season after all, and we all know how truly terrible TNG was it's last as well. It's just the sort of thing we'd all come to expect from VGR in general. There's no reason anyone involved would have started to make things any better at that point. They were all under contract and couldn't get out the way Denise Crosby did back when Gene was still in charge, so they all just phoned it in and gave half-assed performances, just like TNG's cast did. The only difference is that TNG's cast were actually sad the series ended, unlike VGR's, who were all reportedly relieved and collectively had a "Thank God THAT'S Over" kind of attitude after it's truly terrible conclusion. And apparently only Robert Beltran had made his true feelings about the whole situation publicly known, he said what was on his mind and called TPTB out on the substandard writing and producing. And that probably came back to haunt him in the end, as he, much like most of VGR's cast, hasn't had a real acting job for over a decade!

Hence, the whole uproar about the Wang/Shatner feud that happened recently. Wang knew he had no available steady work anymore so he started a skirmish with the Shat so people would actually pay attention to him for a change. And many people thought Wang was the one in the wrong because he "overreacted" to the way Shatner responded. With disdain and contempt, reportedly. Wang didnt like that, and decided to stir up some s***. Bad idea, ENGISN Kim!

"I don't think we've ever heard of the Federation's stance on prostitution."

Well, if they went on record to say that Starfleet didnt condone slavery, they should have also addressed this topic as well. After all, it's a lower-class of primitive-minded humanoid species that would still actually be engaging in paying/compensating another person for sexual activity in the 24th century, dont you think? There are other ways to get the job done, so to speak, and they wouldnt have the added risk of catching any nasty alien STD's!What do you think Riker did on the holodeck after "refusing to open another man's gift" in "The Perfect Mate"? Or what any male humanoid with a healthy libido would do if they had a holodeck available?

Think about it!

This may have been pointed out before, at some point over the last two decades: Troi says to Barclay "Do you have any idea how inappropriate it is to follow your therapist on vacation?" That was the exact plot of the 1991 Bill Murray/Richard Dreyfuss movie What About Bob?