By Corey Hines on Wednesday, January 13, 1999 - 9:29 pm:

I must agree that this has become the Seven of Nine show, or a better description should be the "Seven and Janeway Hour". When Dorn joined the cast of DS9, it didn't become the Worf show simply because a lot of his past was already seen by everyone on TNG. But even when Ezri Dax joined DS9, they kept her in a few eps to get to know the Ezri character. Instead of problems that are solved like that, they gave her problems that would take the entire episode to try to solve. The point I'm trying to make is that Star Trek writers know that T&A sells, and they try to give it to us as much as possible and give what I believe, to them, is a plassible reason to show it.

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By Omer on Thursday, January 14, 1999 - 12:24 pm:

Question: T&A?

I think that two things bother me about 7. One is that she's such a demographic appealing character - I mean, are we really THAT stupid that we need the woman to come from Bay Watch so that we'll watch? personnaly I'd love to see TREK tries doing something unconventional these days, like having a gay character and a fat woman in a lead role ( someone like the brilliant Camryn Manheim would be perfect)

Second is like Richie said, that as much as I like seven, I like lots of the characters, and I'd really want to see more Paris/Torres stories, Tuvok stories, Holodoc stories, and mostly Chackotay stories! He's a great character who has very little to do ( but then I've only seen til Vis a Vis so far)

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By ScottN on Friday, January 15, 1999 - 12:53 am:

Omer, T&A refers to the bay watch-ism. Literally, <slang> and <slang>. Is that OK, Phil? Feel free to wipe this if it isn't fit for family viewing

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By Richie Vest on Friday, January 15, 1999 - 8:01 am:

Scott Yes That is ok for Family viewing.

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By Omer on Friday, January 15, 1999 - 10:05 am:

ScottN :-)

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By Matthew Patterson on Friday, January 15, 1999 - 5:06 pm:

Actually, I think there was an episode written for the early seasons of TNG with a gay character, but Gene Roddenberry objected to it because he didn't like the way the character was written. I guess if David Gerrold wanted, he could redo it for DS9 or Voyager, but it doesn't seem likely.

As for the 7o9 hour, I have a funny story along those lines. The first time UPN ran a promo for "Seven Days," running on Wednesdays, my first thought was "Oh my God, Seven assimilated Voyager over the summer!"

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By Omer on Friday, January 15, 1999 - 9:16 pm:

LOL , matthew

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By Marten on Monday, January 18, 1999 - 7:15 pm:

First of all a note: Revulsion aired YESTERDAY in europe. So much for Europe keeping up with times. Anyway, I havent seen much of 7of9 yet, but this Borglet has actually something more to show for her then her figure. Right now there's not that much to go on, I think she had like 20-30 mins airtime up until now, but she added the psychological element back into voyager I think. Before it was more like: "Meet with some problem, deal" - and now the show seems to go back to the good formula TNG used: Find a clear thinking 'alien' that needs to come to terms with (wanting to be part of) humanity in all aspects. This is definately an acting challenge.

The frequency she's showing (demographics I'm sure) does give her the chance to develop her character much more then say the Doc.

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By Mike Konczewski on Tuesday, January 19, 1999 - 12:52 pm:

ScottN--just a small note. The term "T&A" was around before "Baywatch." I remember it being used to describe "Charlies Angels."

My biggest complaint with 7o9 is that the writers will have her learning about becoming a human in one episode, then have her acting as though she learned nothing by the next episode. Her growth as a character is extremely slow.

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By ScottN on Tuesday, January 19, 1999 - 2:18 pm:

Trust me Mike, I remember that too. Heck, I remember Kate Jackson from "The Rookies" (Now I'm REALLY dating myself). I was just trying to explain the term T&A in a g-rated manner.

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By Mike Konczewski on Wednesday, January 20, 1999 - 7:03 am:

Oh, man, "The Rookies." Now that takes me back....."S.W.A.T.", "Emergency", "Medical Center". Geez, I sound like the program guide for TV Land.

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By Chris on Wednesday, January 20, 1999 - 9:05 am:

7*9 - (7+9) = 47

Could it be??

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By Cableface on Wednesday, January 20, 1999 - 2:57 pm:

She is so cool.And it's not as if she's all body and no brains.(but WHAT a body.wow)She is a kickass character, strong, smart and takes no s**t.And the only reason that it seems to have turned into the 7of9 hour is that everyone else on the show has had three years ahead of her to establish histories and back stories.She's just catching up, so cut her some slack.

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By Mike Konczewski on Thursday, January 21, 1999 - 7:02 am:

Good point, 'Face. We're seeing the same thing happening with Ezri Dax on DS9.

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By Richie Vest on Thursday, January 21, 1999 - 7:15 am:

That is true and I accept that. However this is Seven's second season and we are still getting SEVEN! SEVEN! SEVEN! Also, it is not EZRI! EZRI! ESRI!

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By Nyla on Thursday, January 21, 1999 - 7:45 am:

Well, I like Seven. I think that the show's producers know that people like her
(either for her mind or her body) and so they naturally focus on her to some
extent. However, I do think that overdo it a bit, which is on reason the Mulgrew i
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By Marten on Thursday, January 21, 1999 - 8:29 am:

I have three questions:

- If beauty is irrelevant why the elaborate hairstyle?
- Do you guys think she's actually romantically more interested in Harry then in the rest of the crew or is he just the guy she (literally?) bumps into the most?
- On the same note: do you think they will ever kiss, admit to non-professional interest, etcetc, in a situation where both Harry and Seven are real, not dreaming, not under the influence of alien beings etc etc? (Or have they already?)

Anyway - all the seven attention I cant really judge since I only saw 3 episodes with her so far, so I can handle a bit more before revulsion :D

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By Chris on Thursday, January 21, 1999 - 4:24 pm:

IMHO,

I think 7o9 was put in the show because of three reasons:

-1 They *need* to elaborate on the borg, i.e. they need a character which _understands_ the Borg (Hey Picard is far far away)
Why need? Well, if we're gonna have more shows with Borg in them . . .

-2 They needed some sexual attractment...
I mean, this has always been the case!
From TOS to TNG to DS9 to VOY
TOS: Don't rember any names . . but you know...
TNG: We have Troi, Ro, Yar, and hey, even the doctor is a nice looking lady.
DS9: DAX!, Kira, and Quarks' mother off course!
VOY: B'ellana, Janeway, Seska, and now 7o9 (anyone noticed my 47??)

-3 The writers needed a "Data", as in, she 7o9, is EXACTLY Data! (Data sells?)


So, I guess I'm saying 7o9 somehow "naturally" occurred.

As for the reasons why the writers and casting chose her...
See above T&A sell!

BTW Did you notice? B'ellana? as in "Bell Ana" french for: "Beautiful Anna"?

Nyla: Seen other postings of you, agree with you totally, "Let's have english in here" (no quote)
Although I think:"Let's have less typos"
Some of us (including me) aren't English.
Nevertheless, I look at what I'm typing, and I
try to get it symantically correct, so you know what I mean right?
Anyway, always love your comments )

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By Rene on Thursday, January 21, 1999 - 8:30 pm:

I think the DS9 writers are handling Ezri
alot better than Voy writers are handling Seven.At least DS9 hasn't become the Ezri show.

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By Shayda on Friday, January 22, 1999 - 12:34 am:

I like the Seven character, but I agree that there's too much emphasis on it in the episodes since she joined. I also wonder -- maybe someone can explain this, since I missed the relevant episodes -- why someone as practical as Seven would wear those shoes. The jumpsuit, sure -- nothing to hinder her movement, and she has no self-consciousness. But the high shoes seem all wrong.

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By Anonymous on Friday, January 22, 1999 - 5:45 am:

I saw the following explaination somewhere:

Disco isn't dead, the borg has assimilated them and used their shoe technology.

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By Mike Konczewski on Friday, January 22, 1999 - 8:09 am:

One reason it may seem that Seven is more prevalent in VOY than Ezri is in DS9 is the character. Seven is very attractive and distinctive looking individual. Her character makes everyone else act nervous and uncomfortable. She has abilities that exceed those of a normal human being. Her presence will affect whatever is going on.

Ezri, while attactive, is not the stunning looker Seven is. Her personality is more shy and restrained, and she will always try to put other characters at ease. A story can be about Ezri but allow other characters to be on an equal footing ("Prodigal Daughter" is a good example).

If TPTB had put Seven in a more restrained outfit (like a Star Fleet uniform) and made her personality less rigid, she wouldn't overwhelm the stories with her appearance. But then she wouldn't attract as many rating points from the 18-35 male crowd, either. I'm not condoning this behavior, just pointing it out.

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By Caffiene on Friday, January 22, 1999 - 11:16 am:

Hi i know the original complainer and well i sort of agree and i sort of don't. i do think that they are spending to much time on janeway/7of9 ( by the way i got the 47 thing!) and not enough time on the whole Chacotey /Janeway thing. i know ,i know them getting together is a last episode thing but could they please say more than two words to one another next episode!!!!!!!!!!
but i do have to admit that Jeri ryan is a good actress (think multiple personalities episode.)

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By Nyla on Friday, January 22, 1999 - 2:16 pm:

Chris(a post waaay back there): Uh, thank ya, thank you very much. :-)

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By Marten on Friday, January 22, 1999 - 4:43 pm:

Mike, I think you're skipping over one very relevant *chuckle* aspect of Seven which is that she is the most unconventional character in the Voy crew. Its simply easier to come up with an 'interesting' story about someone who is exotic herself then write an interesting story with a bland person. (see my note about Harry Kim).

Sure, Seven is gorgeous to boot, but I dont think the outfit is out of character. Every character in voy is in a semi-jumpsuit, xept neelix, and that is bcs he brought his own wardrobe, and I'm pretty sure that Seven would look stunning in those too, and the only difference that makes sevens outfit a bit sexier then standard issue startreksuit (which she isnt allowed to wear, shes not starfleet) is that it's reflective.

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By Omer on Saturday, January 23, 1999 - 5:22 am:

Why are Maquis members alloud to ware Star Fleet Uniforms and Seven isn't ?

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By Charles Cabe (Ccabe) on Saturday, January 23, 1999 - 8:14 am:

The Maquis aren't as beautiful, hence they are stuck with uniforms.

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By Annonymous no 1 on Saturday, January 23, 1999 - 10:30 am:

Well, I'll have to find THAT Starfleet protocol!

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By Marten on Saturday, January 23, 1999 - 1:51 pm:

That's a good point though, technically
Maquis shouldnt be allowed to wear starfleet stuff, however I think in light of the cooperation, equality and location, it would've been one of the logical steps into getting the crews to work together on one ship.

Following that line of reasoning I think seven should be allowed to wear a starfleet uniform in due time. Something she could aspire to or try to go for.

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By Rene on Saturday, January 23, 1999 - 7:11 pm:

One thing that annoys me is that they keep
referring to Seven as if she's still a Borg!
I mean, come on! When Picard was separated
from the Collective, he was human again. He
didn't act like a Borg all the time.

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By Charles Cabe (Ccabe) on Saturday, January 23, 1999 - 11:51 pm:

Seven was a Borg for about 20 years. Picard was a Borg for about 20 stardates (2 episodes). This is why it takes longeg for Seven to adjust.

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By Adam Howarter on Sunday, January 24, 1999 - 1:29 am:

Well one thing that might help get Seven back into feeling "more human" is if we give her a freak'n name. I mean 3rd of 5 got a name after about 20 minutes. It's been a year and they're still calling her "7 of 9." Jeeez, would you feel wanted if all your friends and family members called each other by name. Then refered to you by your social security number?
Another thing that would help is if they get her out of that jumpsuit. Its true what they say "the clothes make the man." There is a very good reason the military uses uniforms. Its the same reason the ex Maquis members are in uniforms. Its the same reason captain Jellico made Troy start putting on a uniform, a vast improvement IMO. Its the same reason some schools require uniforms. If everyone is in the same garb it builds a feeling of community, a feeling of belonging. No one is better or worse then anyone else.

-->**No one is excluded from the group**<--.

Is this brainwashing? He$% yes.
So put yourself in 7 of 9's place. Everyone gets a niffty uniform, except you. Everyone gets a *NAME*, except you. Everyone else gets a room, you have to go sleep in the basement. D-uh, she feels isolated. I wonder why?

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By Rene on Sunday, January 24, 1999 - 6:24 am:

What about the Doc? He doesn't have a name either.
After over four years, this is ridiculous!

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By Richie Vest on Sunday, January 24, 1999 - 9:04 am:

For the Doctors name, that is ridiculous since he has always wanted one. I think that is just laziness on the part of the writing staff. If memory serves me, Seven liked to be called Seven and did not want a human name.

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By 177-15-6100 on Sunday, January 24, 1999 - 1:08 pm:

Yes, it would be a little anoying if everyone called you by your Social Security Number.

Regarding The Doctor's name, he's tried a few in the past, but still hasn't decided on one.

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By The IRS on Sunday, January 24, 1999 - 9:51 pm:

Hah! 177-15-6100, we've been looking for you! Are you ready for your audit?

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By Marten on Monday, January 25, 1999 - 8:28 pm:

Irrelevant.

Let's analize irrelevance, shall we? Seven comments on human behaviour as irrelevant all the time, when she is in no place to really be able to judge yet. A simple basic premise here is that if she wants to join the 'human collective' she will have to use the way that collective talks to eachother and sticks together. By... irrelevent: art, babble, creativity, relaxation.. etc.

Btw. Noone answered my question ;) - Have 7 and harry ever kissed or showed 'romantic' interest in a real situation where both characters were real, and not in dreams, simulations, etc? And do you guys it would be / is a good thing?

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By Adam Howarter on Tuesday, January 26, 1999 - 5:48 am:

Ah, the second to last post has got me thinking (be afraid, be very afraid.) Was the Borg based on the Internal Revenue "Service?"(snicker, snicker)
They both assign you a number.
They both swarm in like a plague of locus, sucking the life and soul out of everyone they encounter.
Their goal is to add *YOUR* stuff too *THEIR* stuff.
They both seem to live by the motto "resistance is futile."
Hmmm, food for thought.

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By 440-39-0146 on Tuesday, January 26, 1999 - 10:11 pm:

I'm sorry, but I just have to add my two cents on the whole "school uniform" thing. I just recently moved to an area where the public schools, uh, (I can't say the word I meant here because it would probably get me kicked out of the Guild) and so now I go to a snooty private school. I'm sorry, but I just don't see the point of the uniform thing. I don't feel like I'm like the other people because we all wear the same clothes. I don't feel a sense of community. I DEFINITELY don't feel like nobody is better than anybody else because the teachers get to wear whatever they want! I MISS being able to choose clothes that reflected my mood that day.

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By Omer on Wednesday, January 27, 1999 - 9:26 am:

I think there's a diffrence between School and an Army. Uniforms are there to take individuallity away, and to make one be a representive of something else. I think it's necessary in a military force, but silly in School

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By Catherine on Friday, January 29, 1999 - 6:28 pm:

Is Jeri Ryan taking over, or what?

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By Marten on Friday, January 29, 1999 - 6:54 pm:

Not according to the amount of posts in here!

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By Catherine on Friday, January 29, 1999 - 7:17 pm:

Good point. I still don't like her, though.

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By Catherine on Friday, January 29, 1999 - 7:22 pm:

Wow, this is a lot of info. Has anyone checked out Jeri Ryan's section? There are very few posts.

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By Male age 18 to dead on Friday, January 29, 1999 - 11:42 pm:

My demographic really likes her!!!

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By Annonymous no1 on Monday, February 01, 1999 - 8:57 am:

I think it should be male 12 to death

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By Dan on Saturday, February 06, 1999 - 10:08 am:

I noticed how only the WOMEN in these discussion boards have a problem with 7. Simply ancient earth jealousy.

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By Scott mcclenny on Thursday, February 11, 1999 - 8:20 am:

I AM HOPELESSLY IN LOVE WITH SEVEN AND JERI.
I HAVE BEEN IN LOVE WITH JERI SINCE DARK SKIES.
ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME CAN STEP OUTSIDE
AND WE SHALL FINISH THIS THE OLD FASHIONED WAY
WITH SWORDS!!!

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By Teenager from Outer Space on Thursday, February 11, 1999 - 12:02 pm:

I'd prefer to finish it... WITH TORTURE

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By 7 lover on Thursday, February 11, 1999 - 7:01 pm:

Hey I a Strait lady who happens to love SEVEN of NINE. I think she adds of fresh air of innocence to Vovager w/out being doofy about (iow unlike ensign Kim). What I'm realy fed up with is B'lanna's broading for know good reason.

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By Nyla on Friday, February 12, 1999 - 3:39 pm:

BTW, for us George *Strait* (country singer) fans, you might want to check the
spelling of your posts, from now on. I almost posted a 'Hey? Me, too!' message. I
am, BTW. Both.

I'm confuse

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By Catherine on Friday, February 12, 1999 - 5:24 pm:

Note from Richie: Sorry Had to delete this partDOWN WITH 7!! (pant, pant) I'm Ok. My emotional outburst is now over.

Nyla- I like George Strait. But I think Shania Twain can sing better.

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By Dan on Friday, February 12, 1999 - 9:35 pm:

Note from Richie: Sorry Had to delete the entire message I will not have other members of the guild insulting each other

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By Dan on Saturday, February 13, 1999 - 8:11 pm:

ah but its ok to insult the stars? My this is just like another list/board I was on.

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By Richie Vest on Sunday, February 14, 1999 - 7:17 am:

Dan No it is not ok to insult the stars I would like to talk about this off the board Send me an-email

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By Nyla on Sunday, February 14, 1999 - 2:03 pm:

I like Garth, Strait, Shania, (i have 'Come On Over!) and the Dixie Chicks. This is
way off topic, so I'll go away now. :-)

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By J. Goettsche on Sunday, February 14, 1999 - 8:03 pm:

Nyla, please stay, you are so charming :-)

Speaking only for myself. I do not have problems with Jeri Ryan or the way she plays her character. I think she is beautiful. I am also aware that there is no way I can look like her, and I am OK with that.

But... when considering the other actors that have played the "exploring humanity" characters (Leonard Nimoy, Brent Spiner, Rene Auberjonois, and Robert Picardo), it seems to me that they got their roles based on their talents, not on their looks.

Did JR get the part because she is a talented performer and what a lucky coincidence, she is also attractive? Or was it the other way around?

What do you think?

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By Richie Vest on Sunday, February 14, 1999 - 11:04 pm:

I think a little bit of both.

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By Nyla on Monday, February 15, 1999 - 4:30 am:

Why, thank you very much, J. <vbeg>
I think that Brannon Braga, being wonderfully equipped with high personal values
and a deep respect for chastity in all forms (that was sarcasm, if you couldn't
tell) he said, "Hey! Jeri Ryan's hot stuff, and she seems to be a prrety good
actress...could we get her on Voyager?"
Collective Producers: "Well, I don't know. Did you have a role in mind?"
Braga: "No, but I bet if we put her in a really tight costume, our ratings wuold go
up."
Male Producers: "AYE!"
...just kidding, it was probably a little of both. BTW, this is not intended to be
either Braga bashing or JR bashing; Braga's my favorite Martian...uh, that is,
writer. How could I *ever* have made that mistake. <g>

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By Sharon Jordan on Monday, February 15, 1999 - 12:30 pm:

Ok, let's see I can help my point of view, The uniform Seven wears, I understand she has to wear it I quess It keeps all her internal borg implants in place. (No dirty Minds please) I'm saying it's there as a medical neccessity. I think the Doc put some medical something in the uniform to help her regenerate better. I heard in the show some time back, she has to wear for biological reasons. As for her name, The Captain asked her what she wanted to be called, Annaka or something els, and Seven prefered Seven. Actually she prefered Seven of Nine, because that is what she is used to, and it was irrelivant for any thing els, and the Captain advised just Seven for easier reasons, and Seven agreed. Now to a nit I have about her age. In many shows, it has been talked about children who are assimilated into the collective are put in maturation chambers. Is that until they are adults. They are stuck in the things for about ten to fifteen years?? Or are the chambers speed things up. Was Seven assimilated twenty odd years ago or maybe five to ten years ago, and she grew really fast due to the chambers? Any ideas??

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By Marten on Monday, February 15, 1999 - 5:01 pm:

I'd say that considering the consistently high level of writing surrounding this character and this actress, they actually did have something in mind other then the demographics and clothing aerodynamics.

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By Nyla on Monday, February 15, 1999 - 5:11 pm:

No doubt. I like Naomi/Seven eps.

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By Seven lover on Monday, February 15, 1999 - 6:03 pm:

Sharon :~) and All
I've been wondering the same thing too since Scorpion II. In her first episode (I still have most of season IV and all of V on VHS), Seven stated that "This drones body was assimilated 18 yrs + Xmonths + Xdays ago(I'm shocked she did't give the hours,minutes and seconds ;`> ). Seven has never mention being put into a Borg Maturation Chamber herself. This leads me to two trains of thought.

A) When the Borg got little Seven they had not yet assimilated that knowledge. Thus she was allowed to mature physically. But not emotionaly(which is why Naomi is her favorite playmate).

Or

B) Seven was put into one as soon as the Borg got their mechanized mitts on her and due to the wonders of nanoprobes (look what they did for Nelix and Harry), she has not aged one bit in ~20 years.

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By Chris Ashley on Monday, February 15, 1999 - 8:38 pm:

I heard someplace that the suit was actually JR's idea. Can't confirm it though.

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By Annonymous no1 on Thursday, February 18, 1999 - 7:53 am:

I think that we could have gotten a character that would look SLIGHTLY more like... or less like... or... you know whaat I mean. I would have apreciated it

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By Mike Konczewski on Thursday, February 18, 1999 - 11:52 am:

Anon-who-ever-you-are--no, whaat do you mean?

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By Mf on Thursday, February 18, 1999 - 3:27 pm:

Well, Ryan obviously works hard for that figure, and paid a lot for part of it, so why shouldn't she want to show it off?
Funnything is, every now and then she shows us she can really act, too.

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By Annonymous no 1 on Friday, February 19, 1999 - 9:22 am:

She can... but I would have prepared someone who spends her money on colleague education, if u know what I mean Mike
By Rodnberry on Tuesday, February 23, 1999 - 3:33 am:

I'm a bit late here cuz I'm posting this after midnight but a happy belated 31st birthday to Jeri Ryan.

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By marten on Tuesday, February 23, 1999 - 11:56 pm:

Late indeed, you shoulda posted in 'the cast' - not in 'the characters' - its not Seven of Nine's birthday I dont think.

Anyway. Next nit on seven: She prefers to stand, and comfort is irrelevant. Uhhh. Right.

1/ Humans are not really made for standing upright. their centre of gravity is positioned such that a minor shift in weight distribution will make them topple over. Therefore, a continuous feed of sensory data from the legs, torso, and the equilibrium organs go into the brain, and stream of commands to the entire body go out. This costs more mental energy then you would think. Anyone & anything can 'sit' - you only sortof need to use your neck for some composure. Less brain power, more to spare.

2/ One gets tired. All the minute, but highspeed position corrections cost a lot of energy! Wasteful. Inefficient.Also, obviously 'just standing' means defying gravity, means dissipating energy

3/ If comfort is irrelevent, you can argue that the discomfort of 'hunger' is irrelevent too. Fatally irrelevant if I might add.

*nods to self* being used to standing up is irrelevant, sit down Seven.

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By Rodnberry on Wednesday, February 24, 1999 - 3:14 am:

Well puncture my neck and assimilate me! I guess I should've said that in the cast board but oh, well. Silly me. heh heh

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By Rodnberry on Wednesday, February 24, 1999 - 3:16 am:

Ok, I messed up last time on the characters board, so now I'm two days too late in wishing Jeri Ryan a happy belated 31st birthday here in this board. *sigh*

By Brian Henley on Thursday, February 25, 1999 - 3:34 pm:

This one's for Martin's comment more then a month ago.
I'd love to see a 7 episode where she tries to explore human relationships in a deeper sence. I'm thinking along the lines of Data in "In Theory". Trek as prooven that they can take a topic like this and be serious and entertianing about it, so it wouldn't have to be a bunny show. Seven's been here for more then a year, surely she has a more then one favorite human, a list of friends that she prefers to spend time with.

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By Mike Konczewski on Thursday, February 25, 1999 - 3:43 pm:

Well, the writers (or Jeri Ryan) are very slowly letting her show human emotions. She's almost smiled in a few of the last episodes (not counting Ryan breaking character in "Bride of Chaotica!"), and she's slowly learning about human interaction. Also, there's that bond that's been developing between her and Naomi. They both would rather stay in the Delta Quadrant.

I don't think Seven is ever going to become a great conversationalist, but it would be nice to hear her admit that she has feelings for...something.

There's an upcoming episode featuring Seven
(SLIGHT SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!!!)
that revolves around her being sent back to the point in time&space when Voyager was in drydock. She'll be required to hide her implants and wear a regulation Star Fleet uniform.

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By norman on Friday, February 26, 1999 - 12:33 am:

Looks like Seven's workaholic tendencies may have not come from Borg efficiency as we first thought. "Dark Frontier" seems to establish she got it from her father (her father does not pause for dinner or spending time with his daughter. Everything is work.) It's amazing he spent any time at all with her right before they got assimilated!

Also, talk about abandonment issues. I have to assumer her parents must've lied and not told the Federation they were taking Annika with them. No wonder she saw the Borg as her family for the longest time.

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By marten on Friday, February 26, 1999 - 5:25 pm:

Advance disclaimer: Im in europe so I only saw a few Seven episodes so far.

You know I've thought about it and I can really not figure out why noone has made a really sensible conversation with Seven. Sure, for example Janeway spoke with her about creativity, some aspects of life are touched upon, but where's the big picture. For example why hasnt anyone mentioned to Seven that indeed she was right, human social behaviour is so complex, but why not go into anthropology with her. As a psychology minor and an in-the-closet Desmond Morris fan, I think that a lot of current (1999, okay) human behaviour is mostly evolved, but also _rationalized_ instinctual behaviour. Let's see in older days the pick of a partner was of the essence for survival right genes, strong man, for example. That is why people need to pick someone that seems 'right'. This has envolved into a lot of rituals, beating about the bush, etc.. but also has made it so much more interesting then the simple basics ;)

(Do star trek creators actually read this? ;) this is productive stuff ;D )

Anyway the way star trek is going so far for me is basically people telling seven about 'how it is' in a few small and limited cases, and then they let her draw her own conclusions (faulty or not). I dont think its really right to let her stew in her own juice. Thats how you get misoriented children (the right phrase for those kids escapes me).

Anyway I agree with Mike here, let seven show her feelings a little bit, to someone who is mature enough to deal with it. I.e. not 'laugh' not take advantage etc. I guess Janeway will work. Tuvok definately won't, Kim won't. Paris might work, He gives me a fairly solid impression.. He wont abuse confidence.

*rant mode off*

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By Mike Konczewski on Monday, March 01, 1999 - 9:37 am:

What I can't understand is why the creators think 7's assimilation at a young age would have curtailed her personal development. She was about 5 or 6 years old at the time. If you know children that age, you also know that they have already developed a personality, know about humor and basic relationships.

Her time as a Borg shoudn't have completely stopped her growth. After all, assimilating a species must also include absorbing their personalities.

Obviously the reason for 7's behaviour is psychological, not Borgilogical. She's repressing her emotions because of her anger over the Borg treatment and, before that, her parents' accidental abandonment of her. Jeri Ryan is pretty good at showing some at that anger, through her impatience with others.

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By marten on Monday, March 01, 1999 - 11:56 am:

Yep I figured that as much, however I disagree on the portraying of childlike anger. Of course a child (and seven) can be obstinate(sp) however her way of saying things are irrelevant, unacceptable etc is by first saying the and then *explaining* explanations asks for a discussion, or at least it leaves the subject open for discussion. Children don't work that way. They will say no even though they know it's yes.

However I grant you that Seven is basically adult, and perhaps it works different with such individuals compared to actual children. Still Im inclined to think that the 'instinctual anger' (*grin* see my last post) in Seven will manifest itself in much more subtle ways, since I know that even as a child, I really thought about how I was going to annoy mommy. I can imagine a hyperintelligent adult with the same tendencies can be _quite_ the pest.

Come to think of it one Seven remark that springs to mind was the convo with Neelix: you are talaxian - your distinctiveness was added to our own. Their dense musculature made them excellent drones. Ouch. That was a good one.

I doubt that assimilating a species will result in absorbing the personalities too Mike (let's fight! (with words, obviously ;D ) - See the way I figure assimilation is that the borg will add personalities and cultures to the collective, by physically integrating them. i.e. if information or certain aspects of the personalities of a specific species is needed for whatever reason, the original bearers of that personality will just be 'contacted'. It seems fairly irrelevant to fill the minds of other borg with all of the idiosyncracies of the 87xx species the borg found so far.

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By Mike Konczewski on Monday, March 01, 1999 - 3:12 pm:

The Borg do absorb knowledge and other unique characteristics. I have to assume that some emotion seeps in. Perhaps that's the job of the Queen; she absorbs the emotions from the Collective, leaving the drones impassive. Also, the Borg drones may be able to control their emotions because their glands are controlled by equipment. I'm hypothosizing that, along with optical implants and so forth, a Borg drone has glandular controls implanted in his/her body. Very handy; if a drone needs an extra boost of strength, pump up the adrenaline. For sleep, pump in that neural chemical.

I think Phil speculated in the Nitpicker's guide that some other radical surgery may be involved: castration/hysterectomy. Phil wondered why Piccard was so upset that his nephew died in Generations. Maybe the Borg "unmanned" him, in more than one way.

Seven definitely showed in her first non-Borg episode that she was dealing with emotions that had been long repressed. That's why Janeway was adamant that she wait before deciding to leave. Seven was the equivalent of a junkie kicking heroin; she couldn't be expected to make rational decisions while going through withdrawal from Borg hormonal control.

Combine this with her stunted psychological growth, and it's no wonder it's taking her this long to readapt. Sure would be nice if the other crew members would keep this in mind, instead of cracking jokes at her expense.

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By marten on Monday, March 01, 1999 - 10:52 pm:

Well, we agree! (there's a first *grin*) - Your original remark I commented on was that Seven's emotional growth shouldnt have stopped because the borg assimilate other species, but I think that either noone, the queen only, or only the borg specimen that originally belonged to a culture are aware of those influences, and therefore that seven wouldn't have had any social input into her mental system since her assimilation, since that is hardly relevant (in most cases, obviously)

As for your remark about the Borg episode: I couldnt say. They didnt show yet in Europe. (but see my above comment that I think someone should have a understanding talk with Seven soon. ;) )

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By Mike Konczewski on Tuesday, March 02, 1999 - 7:40 am:

The stories aren't clear on that point, Marten. In "The Best of Both Worlds", the Borg resisted the Enterprise's new weapon because they had Picard's memories. Also, Riker was able to slightly influence Locutus because, as Riker said, "Piccard trusted him implicitly." Trust is based partly on emotion, so there must be something.

I'm not sure what to think of 7's emotional growth while a Borg. I think the creators are implying that it was "frozen" during her time as a Borg. Intelectually she's an adult, but her repressed emotions are that of a 7 year old. Can she mature emotionally at this late a stage? Seems like a difficult process. She has no common past that she can share with her crewmates: never had friends her age, never went to school, had a date, etc. Naomi is going to be key; 7 can "act out" her youth with Naomi while continuing to interact with her crewmates. Luckily for 7, Naomi grows up fast; this'll speed things up.

Out of curiosity, where in Europe are you? The Netherlands?

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By marten on Tuesday, March 02, 1999 - 9:18 am:

Well, still the people are talking to one borg, so the one borg can remember the things his usual personality did. (like locutus did) - so again they consult locutus because his memories have relevance to the case at hand, and go from there.
I never said that the borg couldnt access the personalities and memories from the individuals that their drones once were. Only saying that there is no need to transfer that data to any other drones, or at least no evidence of them doing so unless specifically needed.

Anyway well yep, Im in the Netherlands, how did you guess? - and I haven't heard about Naomi, I only knew that 'ensign Wildman was pregnant' at some point in the story. I assume naomi is the result? ;)

All we seen here in Holland (we get BBC too, but a dutch channel is like 3 episodes ahead of them. I just saw random thoughts :D )

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By Mike Konczewski on Tuesday, March 02, 1999 - 1:32 pm:

If you're only up to "Living Witness", I shouldn't say anymore about the future Borg episodes. I will tell you this about Naomi: Ensign Wildman had a girl who seems to be maturing faster than a normal human girl, though no one on the show seems to think this is strange. Her age during this season seems to be about 7 or 8 years old. She's just started to get a bit friendly with 7 recently. Okay, no more spoilers.

If you've seen the movie "First Contact", maybe you'll get what I'm trying to say about the Borg Queen being a receptacle of emotions. She is definitely capable of feeling emotions, as she displays anger, pride, happiness, and lust.

Another way to think of it is the Queen is the hard drive, the Collective the program, and the drones are subroutines. Once they perform their task, they stop until they are reprogrammed to do something else.

As to your location, I guessed it from the spelling of your name. So, does Dutch TV sub-title Star Trek, or overdub it into Dutch? That would be interesting to hear. I wonder how well technobabble translates into Dutch?

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By Omer on Tuesday, March 02, 1999 - 4:31 pm:

well I watch star trek in german occasionally, but my german isn't good enough to get the technobabble parts. We have ubtitles in Israel, and the translation errors range from annoying, to cute, to histerical -

calling Picard either pikar or Dackar't, for example :-)

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By marten on Tuesday, March 02, 1999 - 9:31 pm:

Mike> yeah I figured as much, simply taking into account that she was a baby 2 years ago in some episode there, and next year - season 5 she's 7 or 8 ;)

Yeppers I've seen first contact however from what I remember the queen indeed was the leader,the gathering point of all 'relevant' information. HOwever not much has been said about her origin. She looked moderately human (cause its a human show ;) ) - but for one single person to be the 'main hard drive' as you called it, would be too much of a strain on any brain. Ohwell.

Subtitles> Ewww. its awful. Im fairly miffed that somehow BBC was ahead of dutch TV when it came to voyager, and I enjoyed watching it on there, but now dutch TV is ahead, and my english is pretty good, so I really dont need to watch the subtitles, but I do and they're awful, esp. to someone like me who actually knows what the technobabble means. (Microelectronics student).

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By Mike Konczewski on Wednesday, March 03, 1999 - 7:35 am:

I'd love to see what of the goofier technobabble translates into Dutch or German, guys.

My thoughts on the purpose of the Queen are pure speculation, since little backstory has been provided. If she functioned like an insect queen, she would produce new Borg and be the nucleus for new colonies if something were to happen with the exisiting colony. Of course this would mean that there are a number of different Collectives, and that makes no sense.

Maybe some of you more computer literate folks can come up with a computer analogy to describe the workings of the collective.

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By marten on Wednesday, March 03, 1999 - 8:56 am:

Well, next show is sunday, I'll look for high bursts of technobabblion flux. Promise.

As for the queen, well I think that her sole function would be to be the extra spark of individuality to this superorganism. It might just work.

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By L on Friday, March 05, 1999 - 2:31 am:

I'm getting sick of the way Voyager revolves around Seven of Nine. When Janeway has a problem she doesn't consult Chakotay or Tuvok, she goes to Seven who saves the day with her never-ending stream of miracle technology. B'elanna and Harry don't solve any problems at all anymore, all B'elanna's good for is grumbling at how Seven wants everything her way and all Harry's good for is drooling over her in her skin tight outfits. All Neelix and the Doctor are good for is giving her advice on how to rediscover her humanity, an issue which has been worn to death so much in the other series (and done so much better) that it's boring. In short Voyager's beginning to ••••.

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By Omer on Friday, March 05, 1999 - 9:00 am:

I would agree that voyager is too much centered over Seven of Nine. they have probably the best cast any Trek ever had; they should take advantage of that

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By Hans Thielman on Friday, March 05, 1999 - 12:04 pm:

Were it not for Seven of Nine, Voyager probably would have been cancelled after the 4th season. Seven for captain.

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By Scott McClenny on Friday, March 05, 1999 - 2:53 pm:

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!!!
At least when it comes to Seven of Nine.
As a BIG fan of Seven and Jeri Ryan I am sad
to read where some fans don't like her,but without
Seven would Voyager have been able to have
reached the heights it has in episodes like ONE,
DRONE,INFINITE REGRESS,etc.?
Think about it Seven has added a new,and long
needed element to Voyager and the Star Trek
mythos.
There is also no way that the Borg would have
grown as a race if there were no Seven.She like
Worf enables us to understand one of Starfleet's
biggest foes(of course when we meet Worf the
Klingons are at peace with the Federation).
Yeah,I know,I am going on and on here,but Seven
is the BEST character on the show and without
HER Voyager might not have lasted as long as
it has!
I guess I get a bit impassioned about Seven
because I am in LOVE with her and if Seven were
the Borg Queen she could assimilate me into her
Collective any TIME!!

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By Richie Vest on Friday, March 05, 1999 - 4:48 pm:

I dont think people dont like Seven. They just dont like SEVEN! SEVEN! SEVEN! This show is becoming the Seven of Nine show. Seven is a great character. I personally love Seven she has added to the show. The writers need to remember this is an ensable(sp) show.

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By marten on Sunday, March 07, 1999 - 11:33 am:

Okay I've watched Voy again.. This time the episode 'concerning flight' - lessee.

First off I must note that evidently subtitling is a continuous struggle to 'keep up' - because you only have 2 lines of text, that have to stay up pretty long so everybody can read it. That is why the subtitles omit certain things fairly often. For example the way Tuvok and Seven speak is completely lost in the translation. I cant really fault the translator dudes and dudettes there. A few things that struck me in this EP:
(just fastforwarded around to startrek technobabble sections, so I might've missed quite a lot)

In voyager they said 'degrees kelvin' - the translation said 'kelvin' - so yay to them, they actually improved on the original :D

Kim said: "Im detecting a slight destabilisation along hte shield perimeter" and the shortening made it: "The shields are a little unstable" - Somewhat relevant in the show's context because that was why the rogues were able to beam goodies out.

Tuvok said: "Attempting to compensate" (same scene I think) - Xlation: "Try to compensate" - so the poor dutch people will think that Tuvok ordered somebody to compensate instead of doing it himself.

"Plasma Injector Conduit" turned into a "Plasma Injector"

There was more, but Im not totally upset about the quality of xlating this time. You really have to cut talk down a bit, esp. since star trek is not made for microengineers like me, but for the general public, so it doesnt make sense to articulate and explain every bit of technobabble to the viewer, just rattle along quickly.

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By Mike Konczewski on Monday, March 08, 1999 - 6:56 am:

I was curious about the translation because I had just read an interesting editorial by Robert Silverberg in this month's issue of "Asimov's SF Magazine." Mr Silverberg was commenting on the difficulty of translating anything from one language to another, but the special difficulty of translating SF. Heck, most English speakers have a hard time "translating" SF; what must it be like to read "Ich, der Robot" or "Los Viejo Martis" (please pardon all spelling errors)?

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By Omer on Tuesday, March 09, 1999 - 5:58 am:

I read I Robot in hebrew, as well as 'Foundation'. I later read Foundation in english, and I can't say that the engish adition is any better. If the translater is REALLY good, hen it might even improve

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By Scott McClenny on Monday, March 22, 1999 - 10:36 am:

What can I say?
Jeri Ryan has got to be the MOST PERFECT WOMAN
God has EVER created since Eve.

She most have some Noble Ancestry somewhere.

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By Scott McClenny on Monday, March 22, 1999 - 11:00 am:

To things I LOVE about Seven:
she has a heart of gold underneath all that cold
Borg exterior and a tremendous sense of humor!!

The reason why there were so many Seven heavy
episodes last season is that they needed to get
Seven integrated into the storyline.

Because this is the last season of DS9 they
can't do the same for Ezri Dax.Simple logistics
nothing to do with Nicole.

Favorite line from this season:
"I am..Annika Hansen..HUMAN!"Seven defying the
Borg Queen in "Dark Frontier"

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By Richie Vest on Monday, March 22, 1999 - 7:55 pm:

Scott That is true about trying to bring Seven into the Story line but they are Still too many Seven episodes
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By Annonymous no 1 on Tuesday, March 23, 1999 - 5:57 am:

well, I wouldn't exactly call Eve perfect... but that's just Me and the bible

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By Omer on Tuesday, March 23, 1999 - 6:01 am:

yeah! I mean in one season there were more 7 stories then there has EVER been Harry stories, or even Béllanna stories, and Béllanna is my favorite character!
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If she's your fave char, how come you don't spell her name right *snicker* ;) Anyway.

Next one.. and I suppose this could be in pretty much every character discussion on here, but 7of9 would be a good choice: why don't we see any music appreciation theory in here? There are very few individuals who do not like a certain kind of music for relaxation, enjoyment, introspect etc etc. I've hardly seen *anything* of this sort in VOY. Sure, DOC sings opera, Harry plays clarinet, I think Janeway played some alien instrument a bit, but no discussion whatsoever about what they 'get' out of music.

Plus, wouldn't Harry be a nice choice for familiarizing her with the clarinet or music in general? (yes I guess he still is my pick of the crop for Seven. Esp since he reminds me of me ;) )

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By Omer on Thursday, April 01, 1999 - 12:54 pm:

I think I did spell the name right. It's this bloody french keyboard. it should be B'ellanna, right?

Check out my Voyager reviews in my web page
h ttp://ww w.geocities.com/Area51/Nova/1105/homepage-main.html

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By marten on Thursday, April 01, 1999 - 1:54 pm:

Nope.. it's B'elanna ;) (as taken from the startrek website.. I guess they should know.. plus in your original post it had an accent equ on the 'e' .. weird keyboards perhaps.
Anyway hey - this is nitcentral, right? I can nitpick anything including nitpicker's posts!

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By Mike Deeds on Wednesday, April 07, 1999 - 7:43 am:

Xena meets Seven of Nine!!!!

See the cover of TV Guide.

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By Keith Alan Morgan on Thursday, April 08, 1999 - 5:11 am:

There is also an interview and photos at ETonline.
(This is my first attempt at formatting a link. I hope it works.)
Personally I thought her answer to who would win in a fight to be rather vague.

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By Keith Alan Morgan on Thursday, April 08, 1999 - 6:12 am:

Sorry, the ET link didn't work. The address is ht tp://w ww.etonline.com/

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By Kyle Powderly on Tuesday, April 27, 1999 - 5:44 pm:

Crossover madness - yes, Jeri was on "Dark Skies" before "Voyager". I also spotted her on an old episode of "Law & Order" last week on cable TV's A&E Network. Considering the difference in the character she played there and 7o9 (I can't speak for "Dark Skies," never having seen it) I'd say the woman is a fairly talented actress.

I think it's unfair to Ms. Ryan and to the character she plays to pass 7o9 off as a bit of fluff designed to titilate the male viewers, though I don't deny that is probably somewhere in the mind of the network people who ultimately make the decisions. It would be good to see some more complexity of character and actor be utilized in the next season.

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By Ian Robbins on Wednesday, May 12, 1999 - 4:33 pm:

I didn't know quite where to post this question, but here it is:

Seven of Nine can spew techno-babble with the best of them and use a hairpin to turn a
World War Two (WWII) hand grenade into some type of stun weapon, and repair shields and warp drive etc. This is supposed to be because she was a borg drone, right? wasn't Picard assimilated? if the Borg downloded all that techno-babble into Seven, why didn't they do the same to Pecard when they turned him into Locutus? Why does he always seem so "thechno-bbable illiterate" ?

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By ScottN on Wednesday, May 12, 1999 - 4:44 pm:

Picard was assimilated using Microsoft Assimilation 1.0. Seven was assimilated with Microsoft Assimilation 3.0. Everyone knows that the bugs don't get out until the 3.0 release!

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By Jinx on Friday, May 14, 1999 - 12:54 pm:

I hate Seven with every fiber of my being. I think she is the worst thing that has ever happened to Trek. Jeri Ryan is a good actress, but the addition of Seven means VOY lazy-@$$ writers can now technobabble/borg nanoprobe their way out of anything, even if it makes no sense. Rather than give Seven her own niche they've stolen ohter character's niches. For example, Seven is pretty much Janeway's only confidant, but she has no life experience. Where are Chakoty and Tuvok? B'Elanna used to be the tech guru -- no more. Even worse, B'Elanna used be freindly with most the crew, but instead they've made Seven, Harry and Tom the ones who hang out. The writers attempt to relate every stroy back to Seven. Did Seven really have to be at the table durinng discussions with 8472? Why did Harry seek her views out on love in Disease? Why did Seven change her mind about love or the calue of ancestors in 11:59? Why did Latent Image give us another retread of VOY's incredibly shallow discussion on individuality instead of staying focused on the Doctor and the question what does it mean to have a soul? I could go on. Seven may have drawn in some viewers, but she also turned off a substantial number. The addition of Seven DID NOT boost Voyager's ratings. Clearly, Seven is not the savior of VOY. Personally, I am losing patience with VOY in a big way. I'm tired of Seven centric episodes and the attention lavished on this character at the expense of everyone else.

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By Nangeloni on Thursday, June 17, 1999 - 11:45 pm:

I think Seven is the most interesting person on Voyager and she deserves all the episodes she gets. How else could we get works of art like "Infinite Regress" or "Drone" or "Dark Frontier" and my favorite Voyager episode, "One." Seven is also very reminiscent of Data (although her personallity is totally different) which, in turn, added a bit of what Next Gen (the best Trek show ever) to Voyager. I kept watching after the third season because of her. Seven needed all those episodes because she is a complex character and is something totally new, unlike Ezri. I felt like I already knew Ezri after watching Jadzia for six years. I couldn't say the same for Seven.

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By Matthew Patterson (Mpatterson) on Friday, June 18, 1999 - 12:07 am:

"Dark Frontier" is a work of art?

*snicker snicker*

I guess Spock's Brain is high comedy, then, and Qpid is a moving dramatic tale set in medieval England.

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By Nangeloni (Nangeloni) on Friday, June 18, 1999 - 1:04 am:

I thought it was! If you don't, that's fine with me. It's your opinion. I can't say the same for "Spock's Brain," but I enjoyed "Qpid."

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By Matthew Patterson (Mpatterson) on Friday, June 18, 1999 - 1:55 am:

Sorry. It just really gets to me that the writers of Voyager think they can rewrite decades of established continuity and continue to make the Borg progressively weaker and more hokey and think that nobody will notice.

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By Dan R. on Friday, June 18, 1999 - 7:55 pm:

I think Seven is the best thing to happen to voyager. I stopped watching it after the first or second season thanks to the boring Kes. I only started watching again when the Borg were brought on. Seven is a much needed addition to this boring show.
All the show was, was a little ship all by itself in some quadrant with no links to what we've seen in trek before. I mean the best episodes were the ones with the Ferengi, the Borg, the Prometheus, etc.
They should have made a show in the alpha quadrant instead of the Delta. Voyager could have been a lot better IMO.

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By Alfonso Turnage on Monday, June 21, 1999 - 5:50 pm:

I honestly think Seven has both been the best
and worst thing to happen to Voyager. The ratings shot up with Seven from her fourth season beginning, but they still have dropped 60% by the end of the fifth season. She's a good character, but they overuse her. It's as if she's becoming a
crutch and because of her other characters are not being developed. I think times are different for a Trek show. A "big" three developing at the expense of the other mains isn't going to cut it. Janeway and Seven are great full Trek characters, but two characters will not make a modern Trek show double-handedly. Picard/Data overkill were two weaknesses of Generations and First Contact. I honestly have to say I like the fourth Trek show in the delta quadrant; it's one of the primary things about the show I enjoy.

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By Alfonso Turnage on Monday, June 21, 1999 - 5:58 pm:

Yes to the above mention of Seven technobabbling their way out of everyting. Seven is a full character and deserves more than to be the deux ex machina to all the bad writing problems.

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By Alfonso Turnage on Monday, June 21, 1999 - 6:17 pm:

Actually, I think Kes was the third complete Voyager character.

By Some Dude on Thursday, June 24, 1999 - 12:03 am:

Jeri Ryan Was Also On An Episode Of "Who's The Boss?" Don't Remember Which Ep But I Think She Was A Swimming Instructor Or Something... And Jeri Ryan Rocks.. er.. ASIMMILATES!!!

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By ScottN on Thursday, June 24, 1999 - 12:20 pm:

Which Law&Order?

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By J. Goettsche on Saturday, June 26, 1999 - 7:11 pm:

Let's pretend that the producers had written the part of Seven of Nine for a male performer. And that the performer was a good actor AND had a magnificent physique.

Had that been the case, it is safe to say that nobody would be complaining, "Oh, they just cast him because he is cute. It has nothing to do with his talent."

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By marten on Saturday, June 26, 1999 - 10:36 pm:

I dont necessarily disagree with you here, but I must point out that the male audience tends to react more strongly to beautiful female forms then the female audience reacts to beautiful male forms (biological fact, look it up)

And also, there are simply more male viewers then female ones. - science fiction is more a male bastion.

But - Jeri Ryan is a great actress that has done much more with the part then what would have done with it.

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By Scott McClenny on Thursday, July 01, 1999 - 10:11 am:

In the interest of open and full disclosure,
and you guys are gonna either want to kill me
for this or love me for being honest with ya
but I am a member of THE COLLECTIVE:A UNOFFICIAL
JERI RYAN APPRECIATION SOCIETY.
So in a way you could say that Seven DID
assimilate me into her COLLECTIVE!!
This will also explain why I feel the way I do
towards her,that and the two Seven action figures
I've got in my room.
BTW:THE COLLECTIVE had a charity auction that
ended about a week or so ago to benefit St.Jude's
Children's Hospital which is one of the charities
that Jeri supports.

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By Johanna on Sunday, July 04, 1999 - 11:30 am:

I really like Seven but I agree that she has
come at the expense of other characters,
especially B'elanna, who seems tranquillised since
dating the WASPy Tom Paris, and Chakotay.
Seven is a cool babe - the ice princess of outer
space.

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By Matthew Patterson (Mpatterson) on Sunday, July 04, 1999 - 12:00 pm:

Scott, do we need to sign you up for a 12-step program?

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By BrianB on Sunday, July 04, 1999 - 5:33 pm:

Pros and Cons about 7 of 9.
PRO...She has plenty of sex appeal.
CON...She's human now, but prefers the Borg ideal yet every time the temptation to return to the Collective is offered to her, she says "no thanks". What's up with that?
PRO...She's "available".
CON...The men don't seem to notice. They act like she's got the cooties. Only Harry tried, struck out, became the butt of jokes, and thereby, one very weak character.
PRO...She's smart.
CON...So is Tuvok, Doc and Janeway. So who needs Tom and Harry? B'Elanna is somewhere in the middle of useful and nonuseful.
PRO...She provides conflict.
CON...That was originally B'Elanna and the Maquis' job. Now they are nonuseful. They just take a number and wait their turn to die.
PRO...She has plenty of sex appeal.
CON...To compensate, The Beasts must keep beating us over the head that she's smart, strong and thanks to her bionics, capable of doing anything.
And speaking of bionics, it stands to reason that, in time, she would be weaned off them. That is, if you want to really make her all human. Of course, if you do that, you no longer have a Borg chick. And is it those same implants that sustain her unlimited and unfailing memory? One would think that now that she's separated from The Collective, she would would begin to forget things (I know, Picard remembered everything when Borg). The only memories lost to #7 is her childhood.

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By Scott McClenny on Friday, July 09, 1999 - 9:18 pm:

No,Seven and Jeri have too much of a positive
impact on my life for me to want to quit.BTW:
behave or my Seven action figures will climb through the computer and assimilate your tv!
(LOL)
Actually I fell in love with Jeri when I saw her
in DARK SKIES,and with Seven the first time she
stepped out of that Borg alcove in SCORPION,pt.2.
And DARK FRONTIER IS a work of art,whoever said it
wasn't obviously is a philistine and as no taste
in either women or art!!
BTW:While VOYAGER is still on Saturdays at 7:00
here XENA got moved up t 10:00 and was replaced
by BABE..er..BAYWATCH.

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By Matt Pesti on Wednesday, July 14, 1999 - 10:52 pm:

Then call me Golith and build a statue of Dagon

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By BrianB on Monday, July 19, 1999 - 4:03 am:

Sorry I'm impatient but when will Seven's human metabolism ever kick in so she can be weaned off the alcove and sleep in a regular bed?

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By Alfonso Turnage on Thursday, July 22, 1999 - 9:49 pm:

Jeri Ryan was very good, GREAT, in Dark Skies!

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By Rodnberry on Saturday, July 31, 1999 - 3:47 am:

If anyone's interested, and I know that quite a few males here would be, Jeri Ryan's got a new 20 Questions interview in the September Playboy issue, accompanied with quite a nice pic of her, too.

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A couple of points that I would like to make here
regarding J:

1.I tend to love and treat her the way I would
if she were my wife..and yeah there is as much
chance of that happening as the Cubs winning
the World Series.Still I think that she does
deserve the kind of respect you would expect
to give a wife and mother.I mean if I WERE
married to her or someone like her I certainly
wouldn't appreciate some of the crude and unkind
remarks that certain people make about her..I
still don't.
2.Whoever I DO marry I would want to be able to
love and treat as I would love and treat J,with
all my heart and soul.
3.I pray every day and night for J,Jennifer,Kate
and the rest of the Voyager cast..I believe if you
pray for someone that you can't help but treat
them the right way.It all goes back to the Golden
Rule as stated by Jesus in the Sermon on the
Mount:"Do unto others as you would have them do
unto you."(Matthew 7:12)
BTW:I firmly believe that it is not up to us who
we marry,but rather up to God.All we need is the
faith that God's choice is always the RIGHT choice.(cf.the story of Isaac and Rebecca in
Genesis,and also Adam and Eve.)I believe divorce
happens because we too often rely on our hormones
and not enough in faith that God will answer our
prayers the way we would want..but I digress here..
4.In short I really rather believe that J and
Seven both deserve more of our respect and love
than certain people are willing to grant.

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By Biff B on Saturday, August 07, 1999 - 9:39 pm:

Regarding Seven not being seen as desirable by the men on Voyager. I think she intimidates them. She strikes me as someone not likely to overlook small quirks or nervousness. Imagine being out with her & she asks "Why do you keep tugging at your collar and saying um every third word?" I think they're afraid of not meeting her Borg derived standards.

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By KAM on Sunday, August 08, 1999 - 2:37 am:

Not to mention the Freudian implication of those Borg nanoprobe injectors.

Scott: I hate to tell you this, but I was just over at ET Online and in the ET/TV Guide poll of best body parts... Jeri came in second for best body.

Someone wave some smelling salts under Scott's nose. I'm sure the news has knocked him for a loop.

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By Matthew Patterson (Mpatterson) on Sunday, August 08, 1999 - 8:05 am:

Who was first?

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By KAM on Sunday, August 08, 1999 - 6:21 pm:

Well, you could have just gone to w ww.etonline.com and checked for yourself, but it was someone named Brandy Norwood. Anyone know who that is?

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By Matthew Patterson (Mpatterson) on Sunday, August 08, 1999 - 7:24 pm:

Moesha, on the UPN show Moesha. They picked her over Jeri Ryan? I mean, come on!

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By Adam on Monday, August 09, 1999 - 12:04 am:

The top two are from the same station? UPN no less? I'm suspicious.

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By KAM on Monday, August 09, 1999 - 4:54 am:

I thought Brandy on Moesha only used one name, like her fellow singers Cher & Madonna, but then I never bothered watching Moesha, so never saw the credits.
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By Matt Pesti on Friday, August 27, 1999 - 7:13 pm:

Seven of Nine.... The ultimate Fembot.

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By Padawan Nitpicker on Saturday, November 27, 1999 - 3:30 am:

SEVEN joined the cast in season FOUR!

47?
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By MarkN on Thursday, October 14, 1999 - 5:29 am:

I was just looking at a page (ht tp://w ww.jerilynn.com) of Jeri and found out her real name is Jeri Lynn Zimmermann, which I thought a bit humorous, seeing as how she works with someone whose character is modeled after another character it resembles, and that's named Zimmerman. Coincidence? You be the judge.

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By Anonymous on Friday, October 22, 1999 - 11:02 pm:

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this, yet...

Jeri Ryan is involved with exec producer Brannon Braga. And has been for some time.

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By mf on Monday, October 25, 1999 - 2:39 pm:

wow... yet another blow for the bimbo factor. between that, the costumes and those absurd implants, it's almost a shame that she can actually act.

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By mf on Tuesday, October 26, 1999 - 9:25 am:

Jealous of what, coward? Your stunning command of the English language?
For the record I'm a straight male.
I just don't watch Star Trek to watch Jeri Ryan wear spray paint. Now, do you have anything to contribute to the topic of this conversation or would you prefer to cement your position as the board's resident inarticulate ignoramus?

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By mf on Tuesday, October 26, 1999 - 2:43 pm:

ooh... good comeback. Didja think that one up all by yourself? Did it hurt?

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By Rene on Tuesday, October 26, 1999 - 4:15 pm:

Is mf talking to himself?

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By B.F. on Tuesday, October 26, 1999 - 6:22 pm:

I was gonna ask the same thing...

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By Richie Vest on Tuesday, October 26, 1999 - 6:58 pm:

Folks sorry MF is responding to some one comments i have deleted and no i am not going to repeat them So dont worry He is not talking to himself

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By Rene on Wednesday, October 27, 1999 - 7:42 am:

Yeah....but if you delete an offensive message,
you should probably delete the responses to
that message. I mean...the way you left
it, it looks like mf is going crazy

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By mf on Wednesday, October 27, 1999 - 10:15 am:

heh... depending on whom you ask, some folks would confirm that for ya.... ; )
Thanks for the coverage, Richie.

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By Will S. on Wednesday, October 27, 1999 - 10:42 am:

Reminds me of two jokes;
(No offense intended to mf)...
'I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy it.'
and
'I'm not paranoid. I KNOW everyone is against me.'

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By JC on Wednesday, October 27, 1999 - 10:56 pm:

I suffer from multiple personality disorder.

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By CJ on Wednesday, October 27, 1999 - 10:57 pm:

No, I don't!

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By KAM on Thursday, October 28, 1999 - 6:29 am:

Well, if Jeri is involved with Brannon, then that explains why we haven't seen her in a lot of love scenes.

I remember early interviews with her saying that Seven's sex drive will kick in and she would explore that avenue of Humanity, but then I thought the writers wimped out on it since it never really happened. Obviously Brannon couldn't stand to see his lady love locking lips with a lusty lad.

(Sorry for all those Ls, I'm just an alliterate fool.;-)

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By mf on Thursday, October 28, 1999 - 8:38 am:

Who would they pair her with, anyway? Harry's pathetic, Tom's taken (and kind of dull) .... where's Data when you need him?

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By Charles Cabe (Ccabe) on Friday, October 29, 1999 - 9:13 am:

What about the Doctor? They do have a lot in common.

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By cableface on Friday, October 29, 1999 - 3:04 pm:

Roses are red,
violets are blue,
I'm schizophrenic,
and so am I.
By Christopher Q on Wednesday, December 01, 1999 - 9:54 am:

I'm wondering...
Did Seven of Nine ever have her designation changed when she was Borg?

I've gotten the impression that when Borg are killed or transferred, the replacements get their designation.

However, Seven prefers to be called Seven because she is so used to it.
Was she ever Six of Nine? (Hee-Hee)

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By Christopher Q on Friday, December 17, 1999 - 4:55 am:

More wondering...
Why does Seven need to "rest" in an alcove?

Of all the ex-Borg we've seen (Picard, Hugh & his gang, the Unity bunch, the Triad) Seven seems to be the only one who needs the alcove.

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By Scott McClenny on Thursday, December 23, 1999 - 4:08 pm:

Seven was a Borg for nearly twenty years,as a
result she still has more dependency on her Borg
implants than any of the others did.
Picard was only Locutus for a week or two.
Another interesting question is what happened to
all those Enterprise-E crewmen and women who were
assimilated by the Borg in FIRST CONTACT,I mean
the ones that weren't killed in engineering when
Data hit the plasma conduits?
But that is beside the point.
The evidence that Seven was Borg for nearly twenty
years comes from one of her first lines in
SCORPION,pt.2 where she tells Janeway:"This body
was assimilated 18 years ago at which time it
ceased to be human."
In fact Seven and her parents were the first humans assimilated by the Borg(DARK FRONTIER).
I know these are facts that die hard fans know about,but I feel that they have to be regone over
as they help to explain why Seven still needs to
regenerate in a Borg alcove.
'Sides she's probably not used to a bed.

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY 2000.

JANEWAY/SEVEN IN 2000!!!

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By Matthew Patterson (Mpatterson) on Thursday, December 23, 1999 - 10:53 pm:

Scott: Guess what? Still shouldn't matter. If all her human tissues have grown back, then there is simply no reason for her to have to regenerate any more. In fact, i don't even see how she hooks into the alcove. Some physical connection is required to transfer power, and I doubt it could be done through her skin. I don't see any sort of connection port anywhere on her body (and the creators have taken the opportunity to show us almost every body part she has).

And at least some of the Unity bunch were Borg for that long. (At least, the odds would be in favor of it.) They didn't have to regenerate, and they still had a lot more of their implants than Seven does. Ditto for a lot of Hugh and Lore's gangs.

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By Mandy on Wednesday, December 29, 1999 - 6:43 pm:

I thought the Doctor said Seven still had some Borg implants, including, one assumes, some kind of port for regenerating.
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By Mark Swinton on Saturday, January 22, 2000 - 5:01 pm:

Some things just never change (this may have been said before, but it's my two pence/cents/shekels worth):
back in the 1960s, TOS creators earned quite a reputation for outrageous dressing of female characters and thus showing sexist attitudes even in a possible future where sexism is dead in our society.
Nonetheless, here we have Seven Of Nine who obviously has sex appeal. And what do we find at the end of "The Gift" when the nearly de-Borged Seven of Nine appears?-

DOCTOR: Fashion is hardly my forte, but I think you'll agree I've managed to balance functionality with AESTHETICS. (emphasis mine)

In other words, a male character (and we KNOW he's male), in an episode written by a man, is responsible for the fact that Seven looks sexy.
Harks right back to that TOS treatment of women, doesn't it?
By Mike Deeds on Wednesday, June 07, 2000 - 5:38 am:

Check this out:

ht tp:// w ww.maximonline.com/girlfriend_of_day/index_jeri_ryan.html

Jeri Ryan

Date of birth:
February 22, 1968

Hometown:
Paducah, Kentucky

Vital stats:
5'8"

Construction workers love her:
“I don’t mind being called a babe. It’s better than being called
a dog. Maybe it’s not the most eloquent compliment in the
world, but it’s a good place to start. I have a hard time with
women who get upset by this stuff. When people whistle at
you on the street I don’t think it’s meant to offend.”

Where you’ve seen her:
As the disturbingly attractive half-robot Seven of Nine in the
show Star Trek: Voyager, in the show Dark Skies, and in the
memorable TV movies In the Line of Duty: Ambush in Waco
and Matlock: The Fatal Seduction.

Here she comes:
She was Miss Illinois in 1989 and came in fourth in the 1990
Miss America pageant.

Taking one for the team:
If she turned her head at all while wearing her first costume
on Voyager, her carotid artery was cut off. She blacked out
on the set so often that nurses were at the ready with
oxygen, but after she passed out the fourth time, she said the
costume had to go. Luckily, its replacement was almost as
tight.

Applebee’s. 7:30. Don’t be late:
“I like strong men; I always have. Strong doesn’t mean
overbearing or disrespectful of women. I don’t like
wishy-washy guys. I want a man to handle decisions on small
day-to-day things, but major decisions obviously have to be a
collaborative effort. Just tell me where we’re going to dinner,
tell me what time to be ready, and I’ll be there.”

Nerds cast their votes:
Ratings for Voyager went up 63 percent after she joined the cast.
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By Spornan on Wednesday, June 07, 2000 - 8:54 pm:

"Nerds cast their votes"

That's real nice. Everyone who watches Star Trek must be a nerd.

On the tight uniform: That's just sick. She blacks out because of her tight uniform? Yeesh.

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By Mike Deeds on Monday, June 12, 2000 - 10:19 am:

Click on the below link to see some good photos of Jeri:

ht tp://w ww.fandom.com/star_trek/celebrity.asp?action=celeb&obj_id=208606#

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By John A. Lang on Friday, July 14, 2000 - 2:14 am:

Jeri Ryan (7 of 9) is babe-licious...especially in "Tinker, Tenor, Doctor, Spy"

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By Adam Bomb on Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 3:09 pm:

Check out Jeri Ryan in the new flick "Wes Craven presents Dracula 2000." I think she plays a reporter who becomes a vampire. I have not seen it, probably will wait until it comes to DVD or pay cable.
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By Padawan on Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 1:42 pm:

Seven of Nine.... The ultimate Fembot.

No, YOUR resistance is futile!

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By Spockania on Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 9:49 pm:

Actually, some agreement on the debate of 'why Seven dresses like that' may finally have been reached over on the board for "Someone To Watch Over Me." As stated above, the Doc designed her wardrobe. And why he designed it the way he did? He's a pervert.

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By KAM on Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 11:15 pm:

I thought he was just "boisterously sexual to an extreme"? ;-) ;-)

It's not like he has a "perverse perversion" after all. ;-)
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By Tricorder on Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 11:51 pm:

Spockania, I don't think the Doctor deserves the blame because show producers took advantage of Jeri Ryan's figure.

I believe the official line is that Seven's outfits enhance the circuitry inside her, but the reality is that Voyager is on UPN, an also-ran network, and enhancing Seven's/Ryan's sex appeal supposedly will draw in the young male audience that advertisers in the U.S. covet.

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By Tricorder on Monday, February 26, 2001 - 12:25 am:

Addendum: I read that the Doctor's perverted behavior is concluded from his actions in "Someone to Watch Over Me" and "Tinker Tenor Doctor Spy", but I must point out that these episodes came after he designed the Seven-ware.

Remember, the Doctor excused himself when Seven asked for help changing clothes in "STWOS". How perverted is that? The point of that episode seemed to be the Doctor's honest affection for Seven and, to some extent, unrequited love. In "TTDS", he altered his program to allow himself to daydream, so the sexual fantasies from that episode had not yet happened when he made Seven's outfits.

Seven's clothing was clearly geared by the producers for gawking value, and the excuse on-air that I mentioned was a throwaway line with no hidden layers of meaning, just the Doctor’s usual bragging.

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By Spockania on Monday, February 26, 2001 - 1:33 pm:

Tricorder, OF COURSE Seven wears her outfits because UPN needs ratings. But we Nitpickers don't deal in reality. Just because the Doc has enough sense to not act like a perv in public, doesn't mean he isn't a perv in private. He's still a pervert.
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By Tricorder on Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 11:51 pm:

Spockania, I don't think the Doctor deserves the blame because show producers took advantage of Jeri Ryan's figure.

I believe the official line is that Seven's outfits enhance the circuitry inside her, but the reality is that Voyager is on UPN, an also-ran network, and enhancing Seven's/Ryan's sex appeal supposedly will draw in the young male audience that advertisers in the U.S. covet.

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By Tricorder on Monday, February 26, 2001 - 12:25 am:

Addendum: I read that the Doctor's perverted behavior is concluded from his actions in "Someone to Watch Over Me" and "Tinker Tenor Doctor Spy", but I must point out that these episodes came after he designed the Seven-ware.

Remember, the Doctor excused himself when Seven asked for help changing clothes in "STWOS". How perverted is that? The point of that episode seemed to be the Doctor's honest affection for Seven and, to some extent, unrequited love. In "TTDS", he altered his program to allow himself to daydream, so the sexual fantasies from that episode had not yet happened when he made Seven's outfits.

Seven's clothing was clearly geared by the producers for gawking value, and the excuse on-air that I mentioned was a throwaway line with no hidden layers of meaning, just the Doctor’s usual bragging.

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By Spockania on Monday, February 26, 2001 - 1:33 pm:

Tricorder, OF COURSE Seven wears her outfits because UPN needs ratings. But we Nitpickers don't deal in reality. Just because the Doc has enough sense to not act like a perv in public, doesn't mean he isn't a perv in private. He's still a pervert.
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By MarkN on Saturday, May 19, 2001 - 3:53 am:

It wasn't a great film. She was ok in it.

Jeri update: it was announced that she'll be starring in Fox's Boston Public next season. I'm glad I'm already a fan of that show.

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By Brian Floyd on Monday, May 21, 2001 - 9:36 pm:

Boston Public is a good show, but its gotten too outrageous lately. They need to tone it down a notch or two.

I'd like to see Guber get shot by a student, or something. Let him lay in a hospital bed for an episode or two, then bring him back. *


* If that's already happened, excuse me. I've missed the last two episodes.

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By Adam Bomb on Saturday, May 26, 2001 - 1:03 pm:

Re: Jeri Lynn Zimmermann Ryan: Was she having an affair with Brannon Braga during her marriage (which would have caused it to tank) or did the relationship start after her divorce from husband Jack Ryan?
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By LUIGI NOVI on Saturday, May 26, 2001 - 6:29 pm:

I believe what caused the deterioration of her marriage was her career, because, (if I remember correctly) her husband is a Chicago businessman, and Jeri's TV series career obviously keeps her in L.A. for 9 months a year. (Of course, if it did occur the way you ask, I don't think the parties in question would be so eager to make it known.)

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By TomM on Saturday, May 26, 2001 - 8:28 pm:

I was browsing through the Internet Movie Database (imdb.com), when I discovered a strange coincidence:

According to them, Jeri was in an early episode (possibly the pilot) for the UPN program Seven Days. Her character was Major Anna Hansen (Annika's great-grandmother four times removed, perhaps?).

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By Brian Fitzgerald on Saturday, May 26, 2001 - 11:57 pm:

She's going to be on Boston Public next season. The first Voyager cast memeber to do something high-profile after Voyager.

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By Padawan on Monday, June 25, 2001 - 2:35 pm:

Now I know why everyone hates Brannon Braga!!!

THEY'RE JEALOUS!!!

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By Anonymous on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 8:51 am:

Yeah right. It'd be easier just to buy a blow up Susie and fill it with Silicone.

Everybody hates Brannon Braga because he's an incompetant moron that has ruined startrek.

Is there anybody here that doesn't think that he's going to end up dumping Jeri Ryan like a ton of bricks so he can screw around with that new girl? He even knows it and that's why he named her T'Pole.

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By LUIGI NOVI on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 9:04 am:

Padawan, people were speculating that Braga is the Antichrist LONG before Jeri Ryan joined Voyager.

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By Mikey on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 9:33 am:

Moderator!

Shouldn't these last few posts be censored as well, since there are no nits, only personal comments?

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By Richie Vest on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 12:51 pm:

Mikey No for two reasons
1. This is a board for Jeri Ryan not for an episode, there would be no nits anyways
2. There were no personal comments against any members of the guild. If some had said "Braga sucks and you are a big fat ugly hog." That's different


Mikey If you have further comments please email me at RVest@nitcentral.com

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By Padawan on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 1:54 pm:

I was joking, you guys!!! Also, I thought the Braga-bashing when he took over -- IN SEASON 5!

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By LUIGI NOVI on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 9:06 pm:

I remember an actual magazine article (it might've been in Cinescape or a similar mag) that was actually titled something to the effect of "Is Brannon Braga the Antichrist?" It was there that he revealed that he originally thought the name "Zephram Cochrane" sounded like a good name for Picard's love interest until he found out who the character was.

Anonymous, you don't know Brannon Braga, nor the extent or depth of his relationship with Jeri Ryan, and it's insulting to imply that you do. What does thinking Braga's a poor writer or producer have to do with thinking he can't commit to a relationship? I don't care for his take on Trek, but I'm not going to cast personal aspersions on him or people he cares about.

Besides, I'd keep Jeri.
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By Spornan on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 9:55 pm:

I'm looking forward to when they break up, and Jeri writes (has written for her) a tell-all book about Voyager, and Braga.

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By Anonymous on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 1:19 pm:

I think that because of the way Ronald Moore was treated in the end. They were supposed to have been friends for a much longer time than Brannon has been with Jeri and he got totally shafted.

And all of the stuff about the Vulcan lady's new outfit "making Jeri Ryan's look like a burlap sack". The costume designer has to have some imput from the producer.

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By LUIGI NOVI on Thursday, June 28, 2001 - 12:25 am:

The situation with Ronald Moore and Braga's relationship with Jeri Ryan have absolutely nothing to do with one another.

By Pat Cassidy on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 9:42 pm:

The executive producer did consider changing Seven of Nine's name in the fifth season to 36 of D.
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By William the perv too Berry on Sunday, January 20, 2002 - 8:36 am:

I'm going to get "What rock have you been under." However while watching the Chicago Philly game on Fox I saw an add for some program that may be set in a high school. (Hey, I don't watch commercials closely, OK?) Gerri Ryan is now working on that series. (I think.) Seven of U.S. History. (I missed the tigh suit, though.)

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By ScottN on Sunday, January 20, 2002 - 12:39 pm:

The series is "Boston Public".
By Very Late on Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 9:02 pm:

Note:

Seven's heels on her outfit have plugs. thats how she regenerates. Also, in "Timeless" take a good look at what the inside of her head looks like, maybe she stands because she has some type of Duranium alloy endoskeleton for her whole body. (must be tough at the airport.

Some odd fun: Data, Bashir, and Seven playing poker... how long does the game last?

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By Anonymous on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 9:57 am:

How about Data, Bashir, Seven, and the Doctor playing poker in sickbay or the holodeck.

And since the doctor is projected through the emitters he could "see" everything from any position even if he's not actually there.
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By Scott McClenny on Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 1:29 pm:

I found a list of celebs yesterday that were pro-gun and Jeri Ryan's name was on the list. Who knew that everyone's favorite Borg was also pro-gun?

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By Anonymous on Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 5:43 pm:

Well, she needs to protect herself from the laser beam eyes of John Lang.

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By LUIGI NOVI on Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 6:43 pm:

First of all, I wonder what exactly "pro-gun" mean as it is used on that site? Against waiting periods and background checks? Against any sort of gun control at all? Being in favor of carrying concealed weapons like Ann Coulter favors? Or just believing in the Second Ammendment on general terms like I do? I went there to investigate, but nothing in her personal anecdote answers this. The site is here, and Jeri's page is here,.

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By Biggy on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 7:09 am:

Jeri does have a nice set of guns.

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By Blue Berry on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 6:08 pm:

Jeri's guns need to be registered!!!
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By anonymous on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 3:31 pm:

Jeri Ryan's in the news over her divorce with now senate candidate, Jack Ryan:

http://et.tv.yahoo.com/celebrities/2004/06/22/jeriryandivorcescandal/

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By John A. Lang on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 2:43 am:

Whatta loser! Anyone who treats a woman like that, DESERVES a divorce!

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By Darth Sarcasm on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 11:47 am:

Keep in mind that there are always three sides to every story... in this case, there's her side, his side... and then the truth (which is usually somewhere in the middle). Remember, she made an accusation, which doesn't make it truth.

I can envision a scenario in which she willingly went along with it, but then chose to make the accusation in order to get custody of her son. Worse lies have been told in divorces.

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By Adam Bomb on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 2:39 pm:

Jeri Ryan's ex drops out of House race.

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By Adam Bomb on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 2:47 pm:

Sorry, I should have said Senate race. My bad.
My ex made up a lot of false accusations about me in her divorce filing, so what Darth says is quite true. Nothing like Ryan's, though. It was his running for office that made those allegations public, as the Ryan's divorce papers were unsealed.

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By Stone Cold Steven Of None on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 7:11 pm:

Hit the ROAD, Jack, and don'tcha come back no more, no more, no more, no more.

Anybody who could make _Braga_ look good to Jeri _deserves_ to get the boot.

GO OBAMA!

And that's the bottom line...if you smell what I'm cooking.

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By John A. Lang on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 6:08 am:

....And send Jeri to ME!

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By LUIGI NOVI on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 10:10 am:

Uh-uh, John. You have Sirtis. I have dibs on Ryan.

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By John A. Lang on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 12:36 pm:

I was hoping to "borrow" Jeri for awhile so her & Marina Sirtis could mud wrestle while wearing bikinis.

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By XNZ on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 5:50 am:

Uh-uh, John. You have Sirtis.

I'll bet that came as a surprise to Marina.

As for Jeri & Marina mud wrestling there's probably some artist on the web who's drawn such a thing, or would be willing to for money.

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By ccabe on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 6:26 am:

Uh, John, you do know Deanna is married?

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By John A. Lang on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 11:03 am:

It lasted only 1 day. She got lonely for me.

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By LUIGI NOVI on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 8:33 am:

TV Guide NIT: The August 1st TV Guide includes a "25 Greatest Sci-Fi Legends" cover feature, illustrated with three different covers. On the one featuring George Jetson and Seven of Nine, Seven's cranial implant is incorrectly placed abover her right eye instead of her left. I'd have suspected a photo reversal, except that her comm badge insignia is correctly on the left side of her chest. So how did this happen?

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By John A. Lang on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 12:04 pm:

They used "cut & paste" on the image of her head and then reversed it.

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By Nove Rockhoomer on Saturday, August 07, 2004 - 11:46 am:

The Contents page mentions that they used body doubles for all three covers and pasted the actors' heads on.
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By Adam Bomb on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 11:54 am:

Has anybody seen Ms. Ryan on James Woods' new series Shark? She can talk two miles a minute. What a motormouth!!

QUESTION:

I heard a rumor that Jeri Ryan refuses to appear in anymore Star Trek Conventions due to an obnoxious individual's behavior. Is this true?

Sorry about that, guys. Ask a woman her bra size just once, and you catch all hell for it.

:-)

(Just kidding.)

I still like Yeoman B-57.She's the one who talked Gene R. into wearing them short mini-unis?

Kes was better than 7 of 89..(to me).


my 22 cents, if anyone cares.

Jeri Ryan was in an old end of the world late night movie?

One message moved to the Garbage Dump/Language and/or Ad Hominem.

President-Elect Barack Obama (I just LOVE the souond of that!) should send Jeri a big bouqet of roses every Nov 4th; because without her blowing the whistle on her perv ex, Obama might still be a Representative.

Thank YOU, Jeri.

And that's the bottom line...if you smell what I'm cooking.

So because he wanted to do something a bit wild with his wife, which he presumably hoped she'd consent to, that makes him a perv?

And besides, she never "blew the whistle" on him, as those details were sealed by the court as part of their divorce. They were only unsealed later when he ran for office, completely without her volition.

Seven of Nine was one of the best characters, probably second only to the Doctor (and I'm not just saying that because she's hot) but she changed so little over the run of the show they kind of undermined the character's purpose.

I mean there was barely any difference to her as the series went along, you could watch a season 4 episode with her in and a season 7 episode and you'd barely notice any difference unless of course the episode revolved around her exploring her individuality which would promptly be forgotten it was only in the last episode where she started dating Chakotay where we really saw her appearing human in a normal social situation.

Just because Branan bloody Braga hated serials there couldn't be any character evolution, she wasn't like Spock or Data who had real reasons not to show emotion she was upposed to rediscover it but if the episode wasn't about her she couldn't show it (rant over lol).

Bulls**t or not: According to this Wikipedia article, Seven of Nine was named after Julie Newmar's Rhoda the Robot character from the 1960's sitcom My Living Doll; the code name for the character on the series was AF709.

Star Trek Voyager predicted the future of people in public or parties that just stare at their iphones instead of interacting with others!
I don't know the episode name, but about a week ago the Space Channel aired an episode where the crew was holding an event in the messhall (possibly with visiting aliens), and there was 7 of 9, off by herself, oblivious to what was going on around her, fiddling with her little computer padd, looking like a present-day person checking their smart phone for new messages.

Jeri Ryan has said she prefers playing Seven of Nine on Star Trek Picard to playing her on Voyager. More here.

I can see why. On Picard, Seven has much more humanity than she did on Voyager.

Which makes sense, since about 25 years have passed since Voyager's return to Earth. Seven has had that much time to live in human society and learn from it.

I suspect she said that in the article Adam posted to promote her current project and not because she feels it's a natural progression of the character... and due to her attire being more comfortable. I of course have no idea if that's true or not, only that it makes for better marketing and to not bite the hand that feeds you.