By Mike Konczewski on Tuesday, January 19, 1999 - 1:00 pm:
Harry is an okay guy, but I have a question about his response towards Seven. I forget the episode, but the scene had to do with Seven cutting through Harry's flirting banter and bluntly asking him if he wanted to have sex.
Now, I don't mean to be crass, but why didn't he say yes? It would have been consensual; Seven indicated she was willing; and Harry is obivously hot for Seven. I know it wouldn't be romantic, but maybe this could have been the start of a relationship.
I don't understand Harry's nervousness about discussing sex with Seven, either. I always find that I have no problem discussing sensitive topics with a person, as long as they are comfortable too. Harry must realize that Seven has no "hang-ups" about sex, since these are usually conditioned by society. Plus, this is the 24th Century; are parents still coy about sex education? Do 24th Century kids still giggle over "dirty" jokes? I don't think so.
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By ScottN on Tuesday, January 19, 1999 - 2:19 pm:
The episode was "The Gift".
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By Marten on Tuesday, January 19, 1999 - 9:39 pm:
Nope actually the Episode where Seven suggested sex was 'Revulsion'. It just aired in Europe, so I know.
And, I dont think it would be proper for Kim to agree to it. Compare it to a 12 year old child in love with an adult and agreeing w/ sex. Consentual? Sure. The kid wants it. But it wouldn't be a good move within the social context, and both Seven and the kid are oblivious of that. 10 years from now, when both seven and the hypothetical 12yo would be grown up mentally, they would've probably wanted to scream at themselves not to do it if they could.
Btw.. obviously the comparison isnt intended to be fully 'working' - for example Seven's motives would be educational and the 12yo's would be 'romantical'.
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By Mike Konczewski on Wednesday, January 20, 1999 - 6:54 am:
Yes, it's true that in our society, sex (consensual or otherwise)between a 12 year old and an adult is illegal. But that's a modern contrivance. There were times in the past when people we'd consider minors were marrying and having sex, and I'm not talking about the distant past. I know an elderly woman that married at the age of 14; I'm pretty sure she consummated her marriage.
Besides, it's not a fair comparison to equate 7 with a 12 year old, just because her emotional development was stunted. There shouldn't be any danger of her feeling "shame" over her behavior, because that's a learned response, not inate.
It's difficult to comment on the social context, because I can't get a good read on the sexual context of the 24th century. Casual sex is sometimes shown to be accepted (remember Riker in "The Game"? That was a one-night stand), but then some characters are very prudish about it. There's too much of the 20th century mixed into the writer's 24th century.
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By Omer on Wednesday, January 20, 1999 - 9:54 am:
OK, but the point is the Harry's actions would seem to make sense, and are in character. The comparison between 7 and a 12 years old isn't accurate, but it gives you a feeling for the situation...
I think Garret Wong ( sp?) is a fine actor, but Harry Kim is very underused - when he's given the chance ( like in 'The Killing Game, Part 1' he can shine)
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By Marten on Wednesday, January 20, 1999 - 4:13 pm:
Okay. i need a spoiler. Did harry ever kiss seven in a real situation (i.e. not dreams, holoprograms, whatever) in the episodes that aired in the US so far? ;)
Anyway. Well yeah.. in character to Harry it is I guess, but still I dont think there are many married men out there that act the way he does. Ohwell ;)
Anyway Kim really isnt a character you can use much. All that is 'interesting' in a show about him is that he's clumsy about women, but other then that he has nothing in his personality that fundamentally are interesting.. I mean really good at everything, nice, caring, friendly etc. Sure you can write him into a story, but you can use any other actor in his place as well, know what I mean? (Oh and nope I didnt see Killing game yet. Euro.)
I mean:
Janeway - 'center of all starting stories' - female Leader
Chakotay - rogue, spirit world
Paris - playboy, live on the edge
Torres - Klingon Conflict
Tuvok - stoic vulcan
Seven - <obvious> ;)
Kim - cant handle himself around seven? uhh?
and so on.
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By Marten on Wednesday, January 20, 1999 - 4:27 pm:
By the way - I'll keep this short (forgot to re: mike's post)
I admit that shame might be the wrong word. I do envision a line of all the male crew members to cargo bay 2 though: Seven does Voyager kama sutra. Seriously: In that scene she talked about single-cell fertilisation right before suggesting to take off his clothes, so her goal seemed to be have a kid. Humans choose their genetic partner on the physical and mental compatibilities, and she hardly did that. Harry should have (and did I suppose) made the decision for her, like janeway did on the 'lets take her aboard' episode.
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By Mike Konczewski on Thursday, January 21, 1999 - 6:59 am:
Marten--you're also assuming that (a)Seven is fertile, and (b)she's ovulating at that moment. I would not be surprised to find out that her being Borgified left her sterile.
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By Marten on Thursday, January 21, 1999 - 7:57 am:
Mike - I might've edged my argument towards actual fertilisation, but people base their partners on the aspects I listed, and Seven seems oblivious of this. Her reasoning:
Harry displayed interest
Wasn't in love with her
-> so without any emotional nuance she concluded his will to copulate. This conclusion is today, and I'm sure in the 24th century, invalid, or at least incomplete (else I think they would've invented a nonintrusive pupil-dialation-detector by then *giggle* esp for jealous wives that have to walk in public areas with their husbands), and I think it is fair to educate Seven in that situation before he goes with his instincts.
But I grant you that while I find it morally incorrect I doubt that Seven herself will be angry at Harry in retrospect for indulging. (Or given her character I'm sure she wouldn't admit to it)
-marten (c)1999 Lengthy-posts-'R'-us
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By Catherine on Monday, January 25, 1999 - 7:29 pm:
I just want to say that I think that Garrett did a great job in "Timeless." Even some of the Harry-haters I know thought this.
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By Mf on Tuesday, January 26, 1999 - 8:32 am:
I agree. It's like he finally understood the character's motivation. I keep getting the feeling that neither the writers nor Wang know what to DO with Harry.
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By Kyle Powderly on Wednesday, January 27, 1999 - 6:34 pm:
It was good to see Garrett Wang be able to sink his teeth into a part for once. I don't think the problem with Harry Kim is Wang's acting, but the pabulum the writers put in the character's mouth. Sure, Harry was a wet-behind-the-ears Acadamy grad with no understanding of the real galaxy when he signed on-board Voyager, but in five years you'd THINK the writers and producers would have had him GROW a little.
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By Catherine on Thursday, January 28, 1999 - 2:50 pm:
Yes, and in "Living Witness," he gave a good performance as the evil Harry. Especially when he was interrogating that alien with Chakotay. My step-father commented that he wished Harry was like that all the time. I disagree.
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By Catherine on Thursday, January 28, 1999 - 7:29 pm:
This is my view on the little Seven-Harry thing going on: OK, Seven really needs to have an unfortunate accident and get bumped off. Because I have a BIG crush on Harry, this is definitely my opinion. Plus, Harry rarely ever solves any problems anymore. And when he does, there is Borg technology attached. Did anyone else notice this, or is the Hate Seven Syndrome catching up with me again?
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By Jennifer Pope on Thursday, January 28, 1999 - 7:49 pm:
I luv Harry...wish he had more to do! He's a great guy & does great stuff w/.5 a chance. Catherine, think we can share 'im when he gets back to Earth? =)
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By Catherine on Friday, January 29, 1999 - 5:51 pm:
I guess so.
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By Brad W. Higgins on Sunday, January 31, 1999 - 3:03 pm:
Why, fellow nitpickers, is it so difficult to imagine that 24th century Humans still have morality? Just because Harry has a crush on Seven doesn't mean he's willing to (ahem) mate with her at the drop of a hat. Correct me if I'm wrong (as nitpickers will do), but I believe the only real romantic relationship we've seen Harry involved in (not counting the times he was under alien influence, had a crush on a holodeck character, or both) was with his fiance back on Earth, with whom he was deeply in love. Unlike Chakotay or Paris, who seem to fall for any pretty face that comes along. Regarding sex, Harry seems to follow a different moral standard than most other 24th century Humans we've seen, which I happen to think is admirable.
By the way, why the heck hasn't he been promoted? We've seen promotions on TNG and DS9, and Tuvok recently got bumped up to Lt Cmdr. Surely after nearly five years, Kim (and every other surviving yellow-shirted ensign on the ship) deserves a promotion!
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By Catherine on Sunday, January 31, 1999 - 3:12 pm:
Brad- I commend you. Thank you. Harry does have a good moral standard. And I really think he needs to be promoted. He would outrank Tom! That would be nice.
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By Sarah Perkins on Monday, February 01, 1999 - 2:07 pm:
Amen, Brad and Catherine. I like Harry also--and respect him.
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By Number1Geordifan on Monday, February 01, 1999 - 3:29 pm:
Respecting a Star Trek character is not something I do often; but Harry is another matter. I'm glad he has a following, because he deserves it.
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By Catherine on Friday, February 05, 1999 - 3:50 pm:
This is neat. It's the first time I've ever discussed Harry with more than one person (namely me)actually having GOOD things to say.
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By Xena on Friday, February 05, 1999 - 3:55 pm:
Yes, Harry DOES deserve to be promoted,Catherine. I mean, c'mon. He's definitely a WHOLE LOT smarter (and cooler) than Mr. Wesley Crusher. Harry's also got much, much more finess, but he's no Tom Paris(enter deep sigh here).
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By Catherine on Friday, February 05, 1999 - 3:58 pm:
(Hiss) Harry's definitely better than ENSIGN(recently lieutenant) Tom Paris.
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By Mike Konczewski on Friday, February 05, 1999 - 3:59 pm:
Oh, I like Harry a lot. I wish he'd been given more meatier roles to play in previous episodes. I loved his performance in some of the 1st season shows.
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By Summer on Friday, February 05, 1999 - 7:25 pm:
An e-mail buddy of mine just saw Garrett at the Raleigh, N.C. Convention. I've personally never been to a con, but she said that Garrett was just extremely nice and very entertaining and very funny.
Actually, she and a group of her friends were checking out the dealers room at around 12 midnight, when in walked Garrett to check out the magazines and stuff, when the dealers room wasn't crowded. He ended up talking and joking with them for more than an hour. She said that he was just terrific.
He was asked what character changes he would like for Harry to have, and his answer was he wanted Harry to loosen up a bit more, be less innocent and less serious.
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By Brad W. Higgins on Thursday, February 07, 1999 - 12:28 pm:
Remember what I said about Harry having a different moral standard than the others? Well, never mind, after watching "The Disease".
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By Callie Sullivan on Thursday, February 07, 1999 - 1:10 pm:
Thanks a lot Catherine - some of us haven't seen Season 5 yet, e.g. in Britain, so thank you *very much* for just giving away a huge spoiler.
C'mon people, think before you post!!
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By Charles Cabe (Ccabe) on Thursday, February 07, 1999 - 3:18 pm:
Callie, I hate to be rude. But, if you read boards for episodes you haven't seen yet, you are going to run across several spoilers.
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By Catherine on Friday, February 12, 1999 - 5:12 pm:
Cool. Garrett Wang himself believes Harry should change. He's not alone!!
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By Omer on Thursday, February 25, 1999 - 11:46 am:
well... this isn't a board of the episode, and one would expect that there would be as few as possible spoilers aroung here, thank you
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By Charles Cabe (Ccabe) on Thursday, February 25, 1999 - 2:34 pm:
I sorry about the above post. I forgot what board I was reading. I was thinking it was an episode board.
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By Richie Vest on Thursday, February 25, 1999 - 4:03 pm:
Look If You think something might be a spolier Try to warn people like typing WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING SPOLIER AHEAD.
Also to be fair, Tom becoming an ensign is not a spolier in America.
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By Charles Cabe (Ccabe) on Thursday, February 25, 1999 - 8:34 pm:
I don't wan't to try to justify my thoughtless error. But I have a question. I like spoilers, but I understand some people do not. I'm wondering why. (I am the type that does turn to the last page of a book first. Sorta like Billy Crystal.) If you can explain why you don't like spoilers I would greatly appreciate it.
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By Annonymous no 1 on Friday, February 26, 1999 - 6:42 am:
Well... I like to find out about stuff the way the creator intended... I like to be surprised... but that's just me
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By Callie Sullivan on Friday, February 26, 1999 - 7:29 am:
I don't see the fun in watching an episode if you already know what's going to happen at the end. It's like someone telling you the punchline before telling you the joke. I don't mind general plot descriptions, but knowing the specific result at the end of the episode, like SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! Tom being busted to ensign, is going to ruin the impact of that episode when I finally get to see it.
Richie - are you suggesting that people not in America shouldn't read this site, or should just have to put up with spoilers being broadcast once America has been lucky enough to see an episode??!! Sure, we know that individual episode pages are bound to have specific details, so it's up to the individual whether he/she reads that page before seeing the episode, but more general pages like this one could be more tactful towards those of us who've not yet seen the latest stuff.
Charles - re: your message to me - like I said before, think before you post!
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By Richie Vest on Friday, February 26, 1999 - 8:07 am:
Camille-1. Tom becoming an enisgn is not a spolier to us!!! That is a very important point.
2. You are going to see the episode anyways Are you not? I was working during the last Super Bowl (the American Football Championship Game) and i had to tape the game. Just as walked in I saw that the Broncos had won. I watched the Game anyways. I wanted to see how it came out.
3. You pay your money you take your chances.
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By Mike Konczewski on Friday, February 26, 1999 - 8:36 am:
Callie--I always assume that, when I visit Season 8 on the Red Dwarf area, I'm going to run across spoilers. Also, since other stations show DS9 up to 4 days before my local station, I'll probably get some spoiler info.
However, I promise you as a fellow nitpikcer that I will attempt to warn you in my posts if I think I'm about to give away some plot spoilers. I encourage everyone else to do the same. Let's think globally.
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By The AntiRichie on Friday, February 26, 1999 - 9:43 pm:
Just have some consideration for others and remember the US isn't the centre of the earth - we might see the episodes anyway but part of it has been spoilt if we have already seen some of the plot revelations. And just because you'd watch the game, Richie, even when you knew the result, some of us wouldn't.
You pay your money you take your chances? - SOunds like self-righteous arrogance to me.
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By Richie Vest on Saturday, February 27, 1999 - 6:39 am:
OK OK I think that is enough The Topic of this Board is Harry Kim and not spoliers or Me If you would like to continue the Topic Send Me an E-mail but Let Go Back to the Topic of The Board!
3/1 I had orignially had the word "board" as "boar". My Mistake.
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By Callie Sullivan on Monday, March 01, 1999 - 1:43 pm:
Cripes - I thought we were discussing Harry Kim - when did the Boar get introduced to the crew? Is this another spoiler?? <g>
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By Mike Konczewski on Monday, March 01, 1999 - 3:02 pm:
I thought the Boar was the half-pig, half-machine race that conquered races through assimilation and their ability to find truffles.
Soooo-weee are the Boar!--That'll do, pig.
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By Richie Vest on Monday, March 01, 1999 - 6:42 pm:
LOL Sorry Sorry Of course I meant board!
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By marten on Monday, March 01, 1999 - 10:43 pm:
Okay,
So Robert Beltran says that Chakotay isnt any specific Native American, just a generic one trying to get the point across.. Is that the same with Harry? Or does he have some nationality other then 'human'?
Actually Mike, it's the Bored that assimilated. Bored Babe Ten out of Ten. Wonder why she's bored with Ensign Chin *hee*
(for further reference see: )
http://www.sev.com.au
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By Mike Konczewski on Tuesday, March 02, 1999 - 7:43 am:
Marten--Harry is Korean.
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By Q on Monday, March 22, 1999 - 1:33 pm:
I don't think "The Disease" was a good Harry episode. It's just not Harry. That's all I'm going to say before I say too much.
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By Omer on Tuesday, March 23, 1999 - 6:02 am:
thanks Q, we don't wanna get spoiled!
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By Q on Sunday, March 28, 1999 - 3:31 pm:
Has anyone seen 100% starring Garrett Wang? I've found web sites on it, but the server can't find them. I know nothing about it except that it exsists.
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By Charles Cabe (Ccabe) on Monday, March 29, 1999 - 11:55 am:
Here's a link to the page for this movie at The Internet Movie Data Base. I hope you find this movie.
ht tp://us.imdb.com/Title?Hundred+Percent+(1998)
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By Xena WP on Friday, April 09, 1999 - 5:51 pm:
I thought it was good. Very sad. Poor Harry. Now He's up there W/ the other officers that constantly (SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER!) lose their girlfriends: Cap'n Kirk, Riker....END OF SPOILER! END OF SPOILER! END OF SPOILER!
;)
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By Slinky Frog on Saturday, April 10, 1999 - 8:54 am:
Ok, my thoughts on Harry. I'm with the rest of you, harry Kim is a decent character right up to now! Like Everyone els, he is an individual who will make mistakes. Sans(SPOILER!!!!! "The Disease")Anyways, I agree, Harry is alot more decent when it comes to the physical part of relationships. My view to the Seven seducing Harry scene, is that it wasn't the Harry does see Seven as childlike, but as not sure on Pysical parts of love relationships. He probably feels, if he wasnts to 'make love' to Seven, he wants her more understanding of the situation, and not just using it for educational reasons. He may want her to be in love with him, as he is in love with her. Very gallant for a character.
By the way, I do think these characters should get together, because I think Harry has been the only one who has been supportive and tender with Seven. Actually being there for her. When she actually smiled, it was to him. I think she will fall in love with him, kind of like seeing him as her knight in shining armor.
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By Omer on Sunday, May 09, 1999 - 1:56 am:
I think Harry kicks ass. Wang's a great actor when he's given the chance, like in 'The Killing Game'or 'Time-less'
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By Johanna on Sunday, July 04, 1999 - 10:46 am:
Let's face it. Harry is hottest guy on
Voyager (with the exception of Vork the Vulcan). RE: the 7 of 9 sex thing: Harry has respect for women and that's why he's attractive.
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By Craig Livingston on Thursday, July 08, 1999 - 9:32 pm:
I think Harry was not being so noble as you say (although his gentlemanlyness may have been a factor). I think Seven really just scared him off by being so direct. I mean, here's Harry, who hasn't dated much since his old girlfriend back home. Parris has to practically drag him onto dates with the Delany sisters. I get the feeling that Harry is not very comfortable with women he doesn't know very well. And now he's still trying to decide what he feels for Seven, and she says "take your clothes off!" in a rather threatening tone! I would have been reduced to gibberish just like Harry in some woman I met yesterday ordered me to strip in that tone of voice. And then, of course Harry never quite found a way to come back from saying "no". I mean it's really hard to make a conversation confortably flow to "oh by the way, when I said I didn't want to have sex with you before, um, well I changed my mind"
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By Johanna on Monday, July 12, 1999 - 6:49 am:
Craig...I think that when it comes down to it (pardon my pun), Harry's attraction to seven was merely written in as a humorous aside. If seven is so attractive, all the
men on board would be salivating over her as well. Perhaps the others are not keen on an ex-Borg (which is a reasonable assumption) or then again, perhaps their taste has developed from the adolescent (again reflecting Harry's youth). On a completely different tangent, perhaps sexual stereotypes have changed between now and then!
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By Johhny Veitch on Sunday, July 25, 1999 - 11:57 am:
Brad - I agree with you. "The Disease" was a bad episode for Harry. I agree with what you were saying on your original post, and I still like to think Harry is more moral than... for instance... Kirk. I realise some of the dialogue seems to indicate that Harry and she had become inter-dependent, and that would merit the title. But actually I think that one of the writers is thinking "Tom Paris has B`Elanna, who do we have to fill in the role of Ship`s Kirk?" I prefer the way he was in "Alter Ego", "Revulsion" and "Down Deep" and how I hope to see him in future episodes.
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By Q on Wednesday, September 15, 1999 - 6:21 pm:
I loved "The Disease". Garrett finally got another chance to act! YAY!!
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By Chris Thomas on Thursday, January 06, 2000 - 2:26 am:
SPOILER if you haven't seen that all important Tom Paris episode yet...
OK... if Janeway, Chakotay and Tuvok are absent for any reason, who is next in rank to take over the captain's chair? Ensign Paris or Ensign Kim? He was given the chair over B'Elanna, the chief engineer, in Future's End? Are only bridge officers eligible?
Aren't there other lieutenant-commanders and lieutenants on board?
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By Anonymous on Thursday, February 24, 2000 - 8:22 pm:
Well, concidering that Commander Beverly Crusher was at one point left in command of the Enterprise-D, they would probably find anyone on the ship with a marginaly high rank rather that leave ensign Paris or Kim in command.
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By Anonymous on Tuesday, March 07, 2000 - 6:24 am:
I understand and agree why Harry should be promoted, after so many years, to lieutenant (junior grade). But can anyone explain to me (a newby) why an ensign fresh out of the Academy is "Senior Staff" on such a premier vessel?
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By Anonymous on Tuesday, March 07, 2000 - 6:30 am:
Just to clarify my message: if Harry is a "Senior Officer," what exactly is a "Junior Officer" on Voyager? In a recent repeat, a young woman thanked Harry "on behalf of the junior officers." If Harry got his assignment on Voyager fresh from Starfleet Academy, how are these other officers junior to him? And why would another ensign call him "Sir"? Can someone help me understand?
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By Jwb52z on Tuesday, March 07, 2000 - 11:55 am:
::Just to clarify my message: if Harry is a "Senior Officer," what exactly is a "Junior Officer" on Voyager? In a recent repeat, a young woman thanked Harry "on behalf of the junior officers." If Harry got his assignment on Voyager fresh from Starfleet Academy, how are these other officers junior to him? And why would another ensign call him "Sir"? Can someone help me understand?:: Anonymous
A bridge officer automatically outranks any other officer of an equal or lesser rank.
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By Mark Swinton on Tuesday, March 07, 2000 - 5:01 pm:
Witness similar stuff in episodes of DS9:
in "Behind the Lines," O'Brien advises Nog to call Dax "captain" whilst she commands the Defiant, even though she is just a lieutenant commander. He explains it as "an old nautical tradition," just as Admiral Kirk was referred to as "captain" upon taking over the Enterprise in The Motion Picture.
Of course, when Nog puts forward that by that reasoning he could be called "captain" if he had to take command, O'Brien retorts, "Cadet, by the time you took command, there'd be nobody left to call you anything..."
As for the "fresh from the Academy" thing...
I'm wondering about all this, since it is part conjecture by myself, but in DS9 we learn that Bashir graduated second in his class and "had his choice of any job in the fleet." When he says this, he is a lieutenant junior grade. Now come with us to the Voyager episode "Non Sequitur," in which Harry reads over his alternate service records and states, "graduated from Starfleet Academy on Stardate 47918; requested duty aboard USS Voyager." Bear those points in mind- requesting a post and rank.
I cannot remember if this is true or not, but I once was convinced that Harry had graduated first in his class.
Maybe, then, the Academy system is such that first-in-class graduates get to choose their first post (or at least request it) whereas second-in-class graduates must accept whatever assignment they get as ensign but are allowed to choose where they go upon first promotion. Hence, Bashir was probably newly-promoted when first we saw him in DS9 and was not just bragging when he told Kira he was able to put in for the assignment there. Similarly, Kim put in for duty on Voyager and owing to his outstanding Academy record got the job of Ops Officer (which implies seniority).
Convoluted post, for which I apologise. Nonetheless, it's a point that has interested me for some time - in fact, ever since I saw Harry for the first time in Quark's in 1995...
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By G'var on Tuesday, March 07, 2000 - 9:39 pm:
According to my friend in the US Navy any ship commanding Officer is called Captain whether he be a Lieutenant or an Admiral. Standard navy Regulations and I've always thought the starfleet was an outgrowth of the tereestial navy and very military.
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By Ray on Wednesday, March 15, 2000 - 12:07 pm:
Over in the message boards for DeltaBlues, one of the posters is in the Air Force Academy, and she talked about the difference between staff officers and line officers (I hope I get this right). The idea is that each of the "senior staff" on Voyager is the head of their department (hence staff). While Harry might not outrank a lieutenant in engineering, if that lietenent was under B'Elanna, he/she could be a junior officer, while Harry's a senior officer. I hope this is clear, but if it's not, go to DeltaBlues (do it anyway, Jim Wright writes great Voy reviews!).
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By Natalie Phelps on Friday, July 14, 2000 - 4:49 pm:
Mark> You weren't imagining things, I thought that Harry had graduated top of his class too
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By Him?Kim! on Sunday, September 03, 2000 - 5:12 pm:
Harry has respect for women and that's why he's attractive.
Amen! But that he's gorgeous helps too ;)
By slylandro on Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 7:40 pm:
I do think that regardless of what others think of him, the good captian should give him a promotion - he's been an ensign for 6 years?!? Makes me think of the TNG episode where Q returns Picard as a Lieutenant, Junior Grade. (Tapesrty) And that Picard supposedly never went on to do anything noteworthy after his tangles with the Nausicaans. Yet, Harry seems to have done a lot more. Of course, you could say that Janeway is just stingy with the pips.
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By Adam Bomb on Saturday, February 17, 2001 - 5:34 pm:
Harry has had his hair styled differently this year. Did Janeway steal Mr. Mott from Picard?
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By Jesse on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 - 3:10 pm:
Regardless..."book learning" is no subsitute for experience. I can't believe that the so many people were killed by the Caretaker's shock wave that Harry was the most senior man available to run Ops. Especially in a crises situation, do you want to make a man with 6 hours' experience a DEPARTMENT HEAD?
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By The Ensign of Command on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 11:09 pm:
those pips can't be replicated they are made of latinum. they only have the ability to replicate the torpedoes and shuttles
Also, I was annoyed in a way that G. Wangs name in the credits was still last even after Lien left. I was hoping that he would be before the space bunny but I was wrong. Even the actor can't be promoted.
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By Noah Webster on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 8:50 am:
Alphabetical order, Ensign.
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By veQDuj on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 9:36 pm:
Since when did alphabetical order start with M as in Kate Mulgrew?
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By ScottN on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 10:40 pm:
Pardon me. Mulgrew gets top billing, followed by Alphabetical order for everyone else. Mr. Wang was just unfortunate in his choice of parents.
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By veQDuj on Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 4:59 pm:
How do people like my name?
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By ZyXyqdaQjar on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 9:16 am:
Not low enough on the alphabetical list.
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By veQDuj on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 10:44 am:
Open up the klingon dictionary on www.startrek.com
Assuming I don't have a typo...
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By Anonymous on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 1:14 am:
Garbage Scow?
I just got the complete "All American Girl" DVD series which ran back in 1994-1995 and starred Margaret Cho. In the second episode, Garrett guest stars as one of her dates. I was wondering if it was true that he and Margaret dated around the time that her show was cancelled and Voyager began in syndication. I can totally picture them as having been a couple in real life.
ALso, I once read that Garrett's character Harry Kim was actually the one that VGR producers were considering getting rid of instead of Kes at one time. Then Wang was in People's 1997 Most Beautiful People issue and they decided to keep him, perhaps deciding that he had fans after all. However, I dont know how true all this really is, I thought Jennifer Lien left because: One, she had an allergic reaction to the glue used for her earpiece, and two, the writers had run out of things for her character to do and say, and she was declared no longer useful to the ship's mission. So Kes was "killed" (and would later return), Lien was released from her contract, and Babe Of Borg was introduced.
For a while I was not aware that VGR's producers had ever considered letting Wang go, but they did have somebody leave in the end. As for why Harry was never promoted above Ensign during his entire time in the DQ is beyond me, I really dont get that one at all. It became a running joke connected to his character at one point!