Fight Club

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: XFiles: Season Seven: Fight Club
By Tyler Durden on Tuesday, May 02, 2000 - 2:47 pm:

Hmmm... I think I should call my lawyer.


By Interjector on Tuesday, May 02, 2000 - 8:55 pm:

First Rule:
Don't talk about
this episode


By Jason on Sunday, May 07, 2000 - 7:50 pm:

Interestingly enough, when the girls were copying the money, the bills were edge to edge, but the copies had a gap between the bills.


By Mandy on Sunday, May 07, 2000 - 8:00 pm:

Any one else notice that during the first half hour someone was saying "Mr. Zupanic" about every two minutes? It's like the writer forgot about personal pronouns.

And speaking of poor Mr. Zupanic, kinda cold to be photographing the crime scene with one of the victims passed out on the floor. Shouldn't he have gotten more medical attention than Scully shaking him awake?

If these women are trying to avoid each other (as well they should), why not work out a "these are my cites, those are yours" sort of arrangement?

Nice acting on the part of the lead actress. She managed to be slightly different for each incarnation.

So how did M&S manage to get beat up? Just in the brawl at the end or were they supposed to have met their doubles? But then, their doubles must still be in body casts so that can't be it....


By BG on Sunday, May 07, 2000 - 8:09 pm:

The doubles of both Kathy Griffin and Zupanic were sisters and brothers. If that's the case, the opening doesn't make any sense at all. We know M&S's parents, and we can be reasonably certain neither was conceived from a sperm bank. I guess Scully's "there are only so many originals" kind of gets around that, but it's still a pretty bizarre element to throw into the episode.

That was kind of my opinion to the episode. It wasn't nearly as funny as it wanted to be, but it certainly succeeded in being...bizarre.


By Shane Tourtellotte on Sunday, May 07, 2000 - 8:20 pm:

The police seemed pretty quick in arriving to break up the proselytizers' fight. A minute at most, and they're on the scene. Also, later it seemed odd that those two were still wearing the same roughed-up outfits when brought back to Betty's house the next day, but they may have spent the night in jail without a change of clothes.

Why were the KC FBI agents put up in the same hospital room? I didn't think co-ed went that far.

Call me the cautious type, but I wouldn't put a big stack of glasses on a bar where any mundane jostle from a patron, never mind a psychokinetic tremor, could send them crashing.

When both gal-twins are counterfeiting hundred dollar bills for Zupanic, they use the old-style bills. However, when we get a look inside one of the bags they bring, the bills are all new-style. Now that is one sophisticated copier.

Why weren't Mulder and Scully affected by the gals' proximity as quickly as everyone else in the arena was? We never saw them lose it and start slugging people, and we know this power isn't finicky about who it gets angry.

One of the gal-twins is described early in the program as five-foot-three, yet when we see the mug shots in the slide show at the end, they're both at least five-foot four, maybe five-foot-six if you count the hair.

And maybe it's just me, but I think the makeup at the end went a bit far. I think Mulder, and especially Scully, would have gotten medical treatment good enough not to leave those huge, crusty scabs on them.

{Not a nit, but it seemed I heard a couple close calls on some serious profanity in the episode, with words being looped in or out to cover what certain characters were saying. Am I hearing things? If not, what was the point of (presumably) trying to sneak that particular word onto prime time network TV? Just being uninhibited and progressive, maybe? Geez, I hate it when people do that...}


By Amos on Sunday, May 07, 2000 - 8:21 pm:

The alt. Mulder and Scully were great. I wasn't really looking and I turned around to the shock of them. It was great. I think they did a great job at finding actors with such similar voices (unless it was an effect).


By Charles Cabe (Ccabe) on Sunday, May 07, 2000 - 9:29 pm:

Did anyone notice that the bartender in KC looked a lot like one of the Lone Gunmen (The older one).


By Sarah Perkins on Sunday, May 07, 2000 - 11:12 pm:

Nit: It looked like steam blew the cover off the storm drain (ie, the double's anger boiled the water), but if that's so, then Mulder should be seriously burned after falling in. The cover is still leaking steam when Scully arrives.

All in all, an interesting episode. I can't believe no shippers have posted anything about the conversation Mulder and Scully have about their "doubles". I'm not really a die-hard shipper so I'll defer to those who are. . . .


By MikeC on Monday, May 08, 2000 - 8:38 am:

I was thinking at the end: "What was the point?"

Surrealistic, somewhat entertaining...yet very unsatisfying.


By cbooton on Monday, May 08, 2000 - 9:39 am:

Did anyone notice that the bartender in KC looked a lot like one of the Lone
Gunmen (The older one).


I noticed that. When I first saw the alt Mulder and Scully I was scared that they had replaced David Ducovney (sp?) , especially after hearing that he might be leaving (I guess a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing)

I wonder though, with the big fight in the auditorium that was happening at the end, I have to wonder if anyone was killed. It certainlly is possible with the way the battle was going.

When the twins (forgot their names) are arrested at the end, they are both charged with conterfitting. But didn't they also break and enter into the copy places? Wouldent these two be looking at some serious jail time?

This episode was good though, very strange and almost comedic. I find if it is taken an a non cannon comedy episode then certain nits are not a big deal.


By The Twelfth Man on Monday, May 08, 2000 - 11:26 am:

When the twins (forgot their names) are arrested at the end, they are both charged with conterfitting. But didn't they also break and enter into the copy places?

Lulu and Betty were employees of the copy places, and perhaps they had keys.

I know "koko's" is NOT Kinko's, but they are obviously supposed to be the same (even the logos are similar). Kinko's are open 24/7.

Kudos: The screensaver on the computer is the Koko's logo. Hard to see, but it's there.

-12-


By DonnaL on Monday, May 08, 2000 - 2:23 pm:

What was the point of Scully bringing the wrestler's double to the fight?


By Bob Brehm on Monday, May 08, 2000 - 2:48 pm:

I have a theory on why M and S were not affected like everyone else, perhaps it only works on those who are in a certain state of mind at the time sort of like the energy lifeform the ST: TOS episode Day Of The Dove.


By Sarah Perkins on Monday, May 08, 2000 - 5:25 pm:

DonnaL:

I think the idea was to get Betty and Lulu to quit fighting over the same man. It was working, too, until the wrestlers caught sight of each other.

[btw, DonnaL, thanks for pointing out another example of Scully praying on the"All Things" board]


By Jon Wade, from Kansas City on Monday, May 08, 2000 - 6:10 pm:

Being from Kansas City, I noticed a few things that differed from the norm...
First.. the area is more hilly than shown in the suburb in the teaser... No palm trees grow naturally, there is no Kansas City Penitentiary.
The closest arena in name to the arena in the episode is Municiple auditorium...
But then again, there IS good Barbeque and there is a rather nice art gallery.


By Amos on Monday, May 08, 2000 - 9:19 pm:

I personally thought that Kansas City was known more for its steaks. I know I had several great ones last time I was there.


By ScottN on Monday, May 08, 2000 - 11:55 pm:

Didn't both Betty and Lulu say that they weren't leaving *Kansas*? KC is in Missouri.


By Sarah Perkins on Tuesday, May 09, 2000 - 12:35 am:

Aren't there two Kansas Citys, one in Kansas and the other in Missouri?


By Jon Wade on Tuesday, May 09, 2000 - 6:05 am:

Yep... there is a Kansas City Kansas AND a Kansas City Missouri. Pretty Much one large city, with the border intruding...


By Rick Nunes on Tuesday, May 09, 2000 - 11:33 am:

I agree with MikeC - this episode was pointless. There was way too much stuff contrived in the plot. The missionaries looked liked they just randomly picked houses to go to. They just happened to be lucky enough to pick the two houses of the sisters back to back?

Nobody was ever suspicious of these two and the mayhem the left in their wake? They've been following each other for 12 years and there was never any cause for concern by the authorities about the damage they did? Scully was able to dig up in an afternoon their whole history together. I guess they just had to wait for an FBI agent to get beat up before anybody cared.

And how convenient was it that their father just happened to be incarcerated in Kansas City? I guess it saved on M&S expense report for this case.


By Anonymous on Tuesday, May 09, 2000 - 4:05 pm:

Well, you start with two misionaries that are almost identical, going to two almost identical houses with two almost identical cars owned by two almost identical women....

And any other nifty "almosts" or coincidences can be summed up as a progresion of the paramormal forces at work.

Which basically means, when the basic premis is one big coincidence, more coincidences may not be nits.


By Chris Thomas on Thursday, August 03, 2000 - 2:23 am:

Re: 'If these women are trying to avoid each other (as well they should), why not work out a "these are my cities, those are yours" sort of arrangement?'

Maybe they have tried it - but it appears fundamental to their nature that they want and do exactly the same things, so no matter what arrangement they come to, it isn't going to work.


By Callie Sullivan on Monday, May 14, 2001 - 2:15 am:

I don't believe it would be possible to photocopy those banknotes so accurately with the lid of the photocopier left up. I was waiting for her to shut the lid after we'd seen what she was doing but she didn't.

Is it really possible to trace a sperm donor so easily, especially over the internet?


By TWS Garrison on Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 9:23 pm:

I thought that it was very convenient that when the two FBI agents in the beginning were trying to beat each other up (well, actually, Mulder said that one was trying to kill the other) neither went for a sidearm.


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