Jump the Shark

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: XFiles: Season Nine: Jump the Shark

By Miko Iko on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 - 8:46 am:

Great title, if a bit late! :)


By Lee Jamilkowski (Ljamilkowski) on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 10:14 pm:

This episode will be a continuation or sequel to The Lone Gunmen episode All About Yves.


By Josh M on Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 1:11 am:

Oh no. Is a Lone Gunman going to die? Or retire? Or has the preview lied again?


By supercooladdict on Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 8:02 pm:

My guess is yes. The questions is which one.

My personal guess is Byers.


By Brian Fitzgerald on Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 8:07 pm:

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RIP - John Fitzgerald Byers
RIP - Richard "Ringo" Langly
RIP - Melvin Frohike

I can't believe they actualy did it. I guess it should come as no surprise considering that virtualy every supporting player on the show has died, except for Skinner. (Deep Throat, Mr. X, Cancer Man, Well Manacured Man, Krycek)


By Harvey Kitzman on Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 9:09 pm:

One thing to say...

NNNOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!


By Anonymous on Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 11:09 pm:

Oh my god! He killed the lone gunmen! The bastard!


By Anonymous on Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 11:57 pm:

I really ought to start blackmailing Skinner. He apparantly is a much more powerful man than I realized. He even got 3 crack-pots buried in the Arlington National Cemertary.


By MarkN on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 12:04 am:

Well, I sure was upset that they killed off the Gunmen. I guess that since the show's been killed off they may as well kill off these guys, too, huh? What's next: Mulder, Scully, Doggett and Reyes all bite the big one, too? Sure, why not?


By S. Donaldson on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 4:54 am:

I screwed up and recorded the wrong channel. Does anyone know when this episode will be shown again?


By Duane Parsons on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 7:22 am:

So, by having the three stooges...I mean nerds gone, there will no future movie appearences. I will miss them.


By Lee Jamilkowski (Ljamilkowski) on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 7:45 am:

As I've commented to my friends, I'd hate to be Scully after the events of this episode, typing up an e-mail to Mulder. "I have some bad news..."


By ScottN on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 9:20 am:

Which raises a good question.

Doggett, Reyes and Scully were at the funeral. So were Skinner, Kenny, Yves, and even Morris! Where the H*LL was Mulder?

The next is NANJAO: It would have been awesome if Detective Munch came out from New York for the funeral.


By Lee Jamilkowski (Ljamilkowski) on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 9:48 am:

The guy who ended up releasing the toxin was named John Gilnitz, which most X Files fans know is a combination of the names of John Shiban, Frank Spotnitz and Vince Gilligan. However, I thought the name sounded familiar. So I checked The Lone Gunmen website...

John Gilnitz was the name of the television producer from the last aired episode of The Lone Gunmen (the episode that is untitled but is commonly known as The Capt'n Toby Show Show). But that was obviously a different character played by a different actor.


By Brian Webber on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 11:58 am:

The best episode of the season for sure.

I would imagine that Mulder knew and wanted to be there but couldn't (isn't he on the run, hiding from the Super Soldiers? I missed quite a few Episodes cause I was wathcing the new Law & Order series).

Yes it was sad that the Lone Gunmen died, but at least they didn't die stupidly. What they did was incredibly noble, and while the virus's


By Joseph Pintar on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 1:32 pm:

I wonder what the 45% of people who voted for the lonegunmen to appear in the next X files movie at scifi.com were thinking when they saw them die. Personally, I had to agree with Michael Mckean's character in that those three really needed to get a life. I wasn't a fan of the lonegunmen and was glad to see them go.


By supercooladdict on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 5:44 pm:

I'll miss the Lone Gunmen, but it's good to see an actual plot development.


By Harvey Kitzman on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 5:53 pm:

24 Hours later....

In hindsight, I should have seen this coming after Langley's speech about Joey Ramone.

I'm still bummed. I feel the same way about their deaths as I did about the deaths of Spock and Kosh.


By Chris Booton (Cbooton) on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 6:31 pm:

For people that don't know there is a website http://www.jumptheshark.com where you can vote for when you feel a show "jumped the shark".

So far the death of the gunmen is up to 15 votes.


By supercooladdict on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 11:35 am:

yeah, I saw it coming when he started talking about Joey Ramone too.


By Anonymous on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 2:45 pm:

The Lone Gunmen were really only funny when in scenes with Mulder. Their interaction was what was amusing. Without Mulder, they were just three nerdy guys in really bad clothes.


By Josh M on Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 12:08 pm:

I hope that they show Mulder visiting the graves when he comes back for the finale. Or at least mention that he did.


By Len on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 10:00 am:

Finally saw this ep last night. I'm going on record right here and now - without any benefit of future knowledge or spoilers - there's no way in hell that the Lone Gunmen are dead. Primary rule of genre TV: no bodies = no death.

Mark my words - they'll be back by the season finale!


By MikeC on Tuesday, May 07, 2002 - 6:37 pm:

A •••• way for the Gunmen to go out--at least Jimmy came back though. I could have done without the Marvel Comics style origin for Yves, and Jimmy not being a likeable clod is just painful to watch actually. It's like having Urkel suddenly appear as a wretched druggie--disquieting. And Morris Fletcher--ouch. Michael McKean's overacting and mugging was unwelcome in "Dreamland," and certainly not here. When did Morris turn into the Second Banana to evil villains around the world anyway?

Compare this to the Gunmen appearances in Season Five and Six for a better way to be remembered (that and a handful of their show episodes, probably "Cap'n Toby" is the one standing out to me the most right now).


By constanze on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 4:34 am:

Not to spoil the heroic, dramatic moment, but why don't the lone gunmen try to wrap the guy in plastic to prevent the virus being released into the air? When Eve said "don't let the virus get into the air" I thought immediately of wrapping him in plastic.

What is the biolumnisensce - the purple stuff like klingon blood - there for, anyway? It can't contain the virus, because the professor who was killed should have infected the dr. doing the autopsy. It can't be liquid in the "container", because it comes from different places in the body when the second guy collapses. Is it the blood of the terrorist turning into "klingon Blood"? To what use?

Why would skinner pull strings to bury them at arlington, anyway? I thought this was a military burial ground, and I always had the impression that the three distrusted and disliked the military as much as possible. Yes, they were heroes, but hidden heroes in the dark side of life, not the shining heroes americans are used to. I would have expected a non-military burial in some quiet place.

Not to belittle their dead, but what is so special about this virus, or this conference that it has to be stopped at all costs? If the research has been done, it can reproduced again and again. Surely there are many more viruses and chemical weapons out there which could kill a big crowd as easily and as deadly?

The beginning, when morris' boat is blown up 20 miles away from bahamas, and next you see him in the coast guard office, I wondered how lucky he was to have been found that quick. With the boat blown up, his chances of survival would have been slight to nul in normal circumstances. (Later we learn that it was staged, so sb. probably told the coast guard).


By Blitz - Digimon Moderator (Sladd) on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 6:41 pm:

Not to belittle their dead, but what is so special about this virus, or this conference that it has to be stopped at all costs?

Just the fact that a building full of people would have died if they didn't.

Yes, they were heroes, but hidden heroes in the dark side of life, not the shining heroes americans are used to. I would have expected a non-military burial in some quiet place.

That was the whole point, it's an attempt to make up for the lack of recognition they got in life.


By Harvey Kitzman on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 6:15 pm:

I'm still mad at Chris Carter for killing them!


By WolverineX (Wolverinex) on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 8:11 am:

bah, they won't be in the new movie then... :-(


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