NANJAO - For those of you who were wondering, a GPS really WILL work near the poles... I wasn't sure, so I asked the local GPS expert at work.

Now, as to why the Well-Barbecued Man gave him coordinates that required him to go over a bunch of hills, or why he specified the altitude -- for all intents and purposes, lat/long will suffice, and in addition, the altitude has the greatest error in any GPS calculation -- you've got me...

Oh, and I don't think the WMM is really dead.

I know the video was supposed to have 2 whole minutes of extra footage, but I counted, and it came out to less than one minute (not that it was bad. When WMM brought up Mulder's sister I was like, "Holy (word I can't say here)!"

Yes! this site is FINALLY up. I think CC (Chris Carter) made a great decision when he decided to put the Samantha stuff back in the home video. This was the major revelation X-philes were waiting for, the one he promised in the interviews. I'm a born pollster, so: how many people think that Mulder was nuts, walking around *Antartica* without protective facial gear or at least his hood on?! And although i know we picked this apart before, how did he and Scully get back to D.C.? It seems like They would have taken all the x-tra snowmobiles with them. 'Nother poll: how many shippers, friendshippers, non-shippers, etc. do we have, and how many of them think "Walking After You" was a good discription of the Mulder-Scully relationship (MSR)? I'm a friendshipper myself.

"Five years we've been working together, Scully, five years. How many times have I been wrong?" Silence.
"Never." Silence.
"Well, about driving, anyway." More silence.

Okay, wait a minute, I haven't bought the video yet. What revelation about Samantha are we talking about here! ;-)

Well, Chief, ya know how CC kept promising a major revelation in the interviews that would really make the fans happy? After he filmed it, he decided that it was just too much confusing information for the non-regular viewers. Same thing happend with any Agent Fowley or Marita references, except that Carter decided to put the Samantha references back on the home video. When I first saw the little sticker on the video proclaiming "Never before seen footage!" I was worried that they meant David's bare-behind scene, or Scully's foul-mouthedness (in which case I probably wouldn't have been allowed to watch it! ). By the way, I've already watched it twice in as many days before I loaned it to a friend. Then I'll probably have it for another week and a half before I'm forced to surrender it to a fellow nitpicker. <sigh>

Ah the trials! ;-)

Regarding the claim that the WMM is not really dead. I was actually snickering at the not-so-subtle way they made you think he *definitely* got blown up. Mulder starts walking away, and the second WMM closes his car door, it goes up in flames. You know if there was even a second's pause, us X-Philes would be going "I know...I know, he ducked into a fire-proof compartment under the seat and survived." I would be very surprised if they did bring that character back. Of course, we're talking about The X-Files, where clones and shape-shifters abound, so who knows?

This brings to mind a possible nit, but since I'm not sure on the specifics of the dark consortium's plans, I may be wrong. Put yourself in the place of the limo driver. You've been sent with this high muckety-muck to kill this loose-cannon FBI agent. Instead of shooting him, your boss starts giving away high-level secrets. (Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there was any kind of sound proof shield or anything between the front seats and the back, so he was probably hearing WMM spill the beans) The fact that WMM shot him strongly suggests that if he hadn't, the driver would have killed him for revealing this information. If I was this driver, I would have shot these two a *long* time ago, as soon as WMM started talking about saving Scully. Did it ever occur to this guy that as soon as he heard this, he was as good as dead?

Well-Barbecued Man is not dead!!!! You can see through the car in the explosion sceene, but you can not see his outline. Remember, with all the faked deaths on the X-files, he should be back in a few seasons. He excaped alive, but not "Well-Manicured".

The problem is that Mulder seemed completely convinced of Well-Barbecued Man's death.

Quite true, but wasn't Mulder pronounced dead? Scully seemed quite convince of his "death". And, how exactly did CSM (Cancerman) survive a gunshot to the chest?

Well, haven't seen the Video version yet, but THE MOVIE...

Well, when was the last time u saw so many plot problems? wasn't there like MILLIONS of them? Mulder and Scully kept falling over the evidence as they went along.

Is there REALLY no better way to dispose of 5 bodies than blow up a 25 million dollars worht of a building? I mean... there is goverment spending... and than there is GOVERNMENT SPENDING :-)

Why not just put them in a box car somewhere andburn up the box car? that worked OK before... only this time, they should DISPOSE of nthe bodies...

And why not put it them in Navada... "with the others" (like the elder asked in 'apocrypha')

Still, I thought it was a pretty good movie if not for the ending. The ending was REALLY like ALIENS meet DIE HARD. Couldn't they have come up with some original ending? like they do in the REAL mythology? X-Files is about paranoia and truth, not about Special FX.

But I loved the helicopters chase scene... wasn't it a classic? really nicely done!!! Cudos!

Overall, a good movie, lot's of great stuff, but not one of the top 20 X-Files. Too... 'main public' for REAL X-Philes!

I'm starting not to like this Omer guy (see his numerous posts in my Babylon 5 board).

Relax, Bwebber, everyone is allowed to express
their own opinion here. I don't personally agree
with Omer either, and his spelling is bad, and he
tends to go on at length (sigh) but I ain't sayin'
a word, not one single word, no sir, not one
litt

Hi don't get me wrong. I LOVE X-FILES. I DO. I DO. And I'm a great fan of B5. But that only says that I have great expectations... and when great expectations meet with stuff that is ment for the wide odience and not the fans... well... sometimes you get disapointed.

And about my spelling, well, English isn't my mother tongue and I'd really like people to give me a break.

And didn't I say it was a good movie? I did... I SAID IT WAS A GOOD MOVIE. It was one of the BEST movies I've seen this year. I'll probably buy the video version as soon as I can to see those 'Samantha' moments. I just thought that the PLOT had lots and lots of holes. And it did! but that's why we're NITPICKERS!

Sorry, Omer. I didn't mean to get on your case
about your spelling, and I didn't KNOW english
wasn't your native language. It was just the
nitpicker in me, it was truly unworthy of me, and
I abase myself before you. Forgive me. :-(

Unfortunately I get bothered by bad spelling also, but I happen to be a pretty good speller most of the time, but I do make mistakes, and I usually don't comment unless I know the person and I do it in jest.

Unfortunately, English is a terrible language, (yes it is my mother language). I have a lot of respect for people who learn it as a second language.

As to the X Files movie, I have not watched the show on a regular basis, and I have seen the movie only once, and I did think it was a great movie. It made me want to watch the show.

Listen, people, I wasn't trying to start a flame
war and I have a lot of respect for people who
learn English as a second language too. In fact,
had things turned out just a little differently, I
would have been one. (I am half Moroccan and was
adopted at birth by a wonderful U.S. couple.) I'm
not trying to pull a Bill Clinton here, and I
really am sorry. Okay? Forgive?

A few nits about the X-Files movie:

1.Why does it say "Present Day", not the year at the beginning? They could tell the exact year for the 35,000 BC scene.

2. Fourteen minutes before the explosion, why does everyone arrive by car from the federal building? It would have been faster to run across the street.

3. At the beginning of the review board hearings, they mention Waco and Ruby Ridge. Why don't they mention Oklohoma City? The incidents are simillar.

4. Page 25 of the Washinton Post is blank on Mulder's paper.

5. Why does Cancerman (CSM, or Johnson, if you prefer) wear a dark suit to Tataouine?

6. I can't find anywhere in north Texas that fits the description "100 miles of nothing in both directions."

Also, English is my first (and only) language and I have no excuse for the tipos :)

Charles: don't worry, I only see two... and I've
renounced my evil ways anyhow. :-)
About your nits: 1. Because that way it won't look
dated thirty years from now.
2. Because that way M&S could get away fast enough
to make their survivial seem plasuible (and I know
I misspelt that.)
3. 'Cause they figured Chris Carter would be in
enough hot water with blowing up a Fed building so
soon after Oklahoma anyway. They didn't want
people reminded.
4. Yep, sure was.
5. BILC (see Nitpicker's Glossary. Oh, and did you
catch that? Tataoine? No Star Warrior worth their
lightsaber missed that, I'm sure.)
6. Charles, Charles, Charles...
Yo: when you watch FTF again, check out the Well
BBQed Man's licecnse plate. (I misspelt that too.
Aggh! Oh, well, i'm only in 8th grade.)

Just wondering, what word did I mispell in my message Sunday? I know typos was misspelled. (I meant it as a joke;) But, what was the other one. It wasn't Tataouine, its spelled that way in the movie, but Star Wars spells it diffrently. (They spell it Tatooine.)

Also, What is the approiate protocol for refering to CSM? CSM, Cancerman, Johnson (It's from the pilot script, the closest well get to finding out his name) or Whatever?

Your other typo was Oklahoma. You spelt it
Oklohoma. And yes, I know about Tatouine. That, by
the way, is how the place-name is actually spelt.
(I suspect George Lucas changed the spelling so he
wouldn't get sued!)
CSM: Well... that's what he's usually called on
the show and in the Official Guides. But he has
been called, on occasion, Cancerman on the show.
And our Chief Nitpicker, as you are no doubt
aware, calls him Cancerman in The Nitpicker's
Guide For X-Philes... saying that it's his book
and he likes it better! Whatever you call him,
people will know who you mean.
I have heard people call him That Weird Conspiracy
Guy Who Is Alway's Smoking A Cigarette And Whom
Everyone Thought Was Mulder's Father ( heavy
breathing...Luke, you are my son) But Is In Fact
Samantha's. And Spenders'. (At this point I
stepped in and said that he was actually known as
the CSM. They gave me weird looks and said,
"Whatever." Well, it *was* the middle of Wal-Mart
and I didn't know them.)

The date for CSM's Telegram was 9-6-97 2:33PM EST. This would put it between the 4th and 5th seasons. Incidentally, the sender's name is illigeble.

That's weird. Is this saying that the *movie* is
between the 4th & 5th season? Noo...that's just
too unlikely, given everything that happened in
Gethesmane & the 5th season opener. Good nitpick.
That's one of those ones you want to remember in
case you ever meet CC. You shake his hand, thank
him for creating such a terrific show, smile
sweetly, and, just as he's starting to relax, say,
"By the way..." ;-)

Oh, and I *wonder* why the sender's name was
illegible. (Read heavy sarcasm.) No doubt she/he
is a doctor.

I personally think the date was a typo; or the person who wrote it didn't know it would be relesed until the next summer. (or mabye they didn't think we'd notice:) Also, the telegram could have came from Skinner or some other of CSM's informants in the FBI.

true, but that brings up Skinner. What exactly is
his relationship with the CSM? At best, it is
ambiguous, given his fraternal feelings toward
Scully and possibly Mulder. After all, he gave
Mulder the CSM's address so that Mulder could take
revenge for Scully, and he always seems so hurt
when Scully accuses him of playing Gollum. IMHO,
he dislikes the CSM's methods, possibly his
motives, and certainly him personally, but the CSM
is just too powerful an ally to throw away. I
don't think he tells the CSM more than is
absolutly necessary.

What about Zero Sum? He basically told CSM to stuff it in that episode.

Really...I'm trying to picture this, 'cause I
didn't see it. Wish I had. At least Scully has
*one* good brotherly type around, because her
bio-bro's a real jerk. Sure, he's just being
overprotective, but he takes it too far in eps
like Gethsemane or the next one. I mean, if I were
him, I wouldn't want Mulder hanging around my
little sister either, but he goes too far when he
acts as though Scully was only in the FBI because
she is somehow infatuated with Mulder. If Scully
had been a male Navy friend of his with cancer, he
would have respected and admired him for staying
in as long as he was physically able. Chuavinist.

I just rewatched the movie tonight, and I think I
figured something out. Okay: the aliens can only
*start* gestating when it hits 98.6 F., but once
they start, they don't stop. This explains why the
bees are kept in a controlled enviroment: it keeps
them dormant 'til the Consortium is ready to start
colonization. This explains everything except the
gory opening when the *gestated* alien attacks the
cavemen. That was definitely too cold for
gestation unless the black cancer, having obtained
control of the caveman's mind, was going to walk
the caveman back to the spaceship where it was
nice and warm. (I'm assuming two things: that
35,000 years ago the earth aliens were still in
contact with their less adventersome kindered back
home, and that in the Antartican scenes. the
liquid surrounding Scully was very warm.)

I have a partial theory why Oklahoma City was left out. Every episode except for Paper Hearts (about a traveling sales man) and the episode with Jerimah Smith (about a traveling... whatever) has less than 5 states metioned. (This is accurate through the end of the 4th season.) So, they was up to their state limit. This also explains why they were in the Anartic not in Alaska at the end.

Ohhh, of course. Everything is falling in place
now. :-) B-)

Why wern't scully and mulder masked when they examined the corpse for the first time?

'Cause ya know how much they just luuv to get strange alien viruses...

two more questions

Did those aliens remind anyone else of species 8472? The way that diease ate away at someones body, very simular.

Why were there no guards at the bee house? And how did that bee manage to stay on Scully undetected for so long? I get the idea it was planted on her though and it was not from the bee house.

One word: BILC. (refer to Nitpicker's Glossary)

True, true, I forgot about that one, DYN that the file size for this page is now 47K ?

I wonder, once they identifed the bodies of the firmen and the kid in that building, people are going to know what they were doing in the building. I agree with other people that say it woukd be easier just to have buried them in the desert of to burn them in something. But then we wouldent have been able to see that virus and what it did, and many other events could not have occured.

Yeah, nobody mentioned this one!!!! I thought I noticed a nit when Mulder is stuck in the vending room with the bomb. Then I froze it and I was right. According to Phil's guide(I think!!!), 10-13 is a very important number in the 'Files. It is supposed to be the last four numbers of Scully's cell phone number. But if you watch when Mulder dials her up when he's with the bomb, the phone number says 555-0113. I swear.

Yep, we noticed. i saw it when I saw it for the first time and we discussed in the Ask
The Chief column. The Chief said that 555-1013 is probably reserved for Mulder.
Spooky. ;-

The WMM first told Mulder that the aliens were the "original inhabitants" of the Earth, but later said that they "came here millions of years ago". So, were they the first Earthlings, or were they just visiting (checking out the real estate for future colonization)?

The second, I think. In The Beginning, it is clearly stated that they are
exraterrestrial

Allright, here's one that I checked for and couldn't find already posted. Watch the scene with the initial examination of the body by Mulder and Scully. Specifically, watch what Scully's wearing when she examines the guy. No lab coat, right? Of course not, Scully wasn't wearing one. Now, watch the second cut to her hand examining the body. There, sure as I am sitting here, is a lab coat sleeve. I checked it about five times just to make sure, but there it is.

Nice nit! i checked it out and you're (suspense) ...RIGHT!! Kudos!

Just wanted to let everyone know that the DVD version of "The X-Files: Fight the Future" will be out February 9, 1999! It will be letterboxed with commentary by Chris Carter and will have extra scenes, and even some that weren't in the VHS version

Well, heck, I guess I'll just have to go get a new TV then! :-)
In my dreams...

Nah, you just need a DVD player (*DONT GET DivX!)

Oh good.

You know, wouldn't it be funny if Strughold's "the thing he treasures most" turned out to be...his collection of porno movies?


That would clearly end the X-Files, and give Strughold something to entertain himself at home.

Mulder's collection, that is.

just one quick comment. Those darned alien viruses and diseases are REALLY attracted to Scully, aren't they?

I've explained this before to about twenty trillion people, so excuse me if I sound a
bit testy. THEY. Were Trying. To Make. Mulder Give Up. Obviously, the Consortium (a)
are all shippers and (b) underestimated Mulder's stubborness.

well, comming to that, could someone PLEASE explain me why the constrium bombed a building to destroy only 5 bodies?

Insurance fraud thrown into the bargain?

Omer--because then the 5 bodies from North Texas would be lost among all the other dead bodies killed in the explosion.

Mike's right Omer. That's how evil the Consortium is (check the secret track at the end of the X-Files Soundtrack. The Consortium is explained!).

I gonna get tat fa Cwismas. HEE!!
(sorry, I regressed for a moment there.)

Istill don't get it. It's not nly a totally in efficient way of getting rid of bodies ( I mean it's 25 millions $, after all), but it's also a sure way of getting attention. Why not just blow it up in a desert somewhere? Or keep it in Area 51? or through the bodies deep into the ocean? Or simply have a camp fire and burn the bodies away!

Re: X-Files soundtranck
Is that the Mark Snow one or the Rock one? I heard about that somewhere but I can't remember which it is.

Ben Jackson

Ben: The one with Foo Fighters, The Cardigans, etc. on it.

Why were Mulder and Scully in Dallas anyway? I doubt they would have had time to fly from Washington D.C. to Dallas, Texas after the bomb threat had been called in. Also, wouldn't the lead agency be the Bureau of Alchol, Tobacco and Firearms (BATF) rather than the FBI?

Oh, it is? I did get them both for Christmas, (YES!!) but I haven't been able to listen
to them both straight through yet. I like 'Flower Man'... the only bad thing is the lack
of written lyrics. I usually listen to country, where people actually sing rather than
scream, and I can't make out all the words to the songs... and isn't The Soundtrack the
one with classical music, and the rock one the album?

'I can not be without you, matter of fact...' Sing it, guys!

' Never seen two people in my life
so determined to ignore the obvious...' Powerful Thing, Linda Davis

Sayon

K.n.d., I have the lyrics for all of the songs except "Invisible Sun" (which sucks anyway), "Hunter", and "16 Horses" (because no written lyrics exist). Also, there are no lyrics for the instrumental ones, nor have I transcribed CC's monologue yet. E-mail me if you want the lyrics I have (deuce@softhome.net).

Omer, the point you keep making (and failing to get a satisfactory response to) about blowing up the building was the first thing that hit me about the film. What I find really spooky, however, is not just that it was the stupidist possible way to destroy evidence, but that no-one else seems to be bothered by this.

uh-huh

Grovelling apologies to everyone about the repeated post - the computer kept telling me that it wasn't working, and to press the reload button. So I did. That's the last time I believe this machine.

I'm not sure if this is a nit but when WMM was telling all to Mulder in his car he said that this virus was here long before AIDS and ebola. What I believe he meant to say was it was here long before the things that became AIDS and ebola. The viruses as they are now seem to have originated in the 1960s.

S.: No, that's not really a nit (I don't think) but it's a good observation.
Deuce: I have transcribed The Truth At 10:13. If anyone wants it I will post it on
the Kitchen Sink board, but only if asked as it is rather long.

Is that legal? Isn't it copyrighted?

-12-

Yes, it is legal for the same reason fanfic is legal. I can put a little disclaimer on it
that says, "This is property of 1013 productions, Fox, CC, blah blah blah, yadda
yadda yadda, AND (here's the important part) I'm not making any money off of the
distrubution of this." It's only when you make money off things that lawyers get
interested, like the Guides.

Anyone else notice the recurring theme of the 'Wizard of Oz' Mulder starts here?
He wakes up in the hospital, and he calls the Lone Gmen "Toto", "Scarecrow" and "Cowardly Lion"

At the end of Triangle, he wakes up in the hospital and starts spewinng all sorts of Oz-related stuff.

And in Rain King, the reunion features a life-size scarecrow on the dance floor. Not to mention that tey play 'somewhere over the rainbow' at the end.

Hey, I really dig the Well-BBQed-man comment! Witty!

I got the transcript of The Truth @ 10.13, thanks anyway. If anyone is interested, the full lyrics, the liner notes by CC, and a scan of the cover of "The X-Files: The Album" are available at http://members.xoom.com/halfpastsix/xfcd/lyrics.html . Enjoy!

P.S. The "lyrics" for Teotihuacan are actually some historical notes, and the "lyrics" for The XF Theme contain the spoken garbage plus the Truth.

Wow...you have your own website... I bowwww in awwwweee before you, Deuce.
:-

Nyla - FYI on copyrights: If you may be 'damaging the marketability of their product' then it can also get you nabbed for violating copyright. i.e. If your transcript of part of the CD leads people to not buy it, then you can be sued under copyright laws, whether you profit or not. Of course, there's pretty much no return in suing you unless you're (A) really wealthy or (B) really messing with their profits.

KND - I have no idea how the X-Files music is specifically labeled, but when there are both a classical music album and an "other" music album for a movie,the former is often the "score" and the latter the "soundtrack."

Um, Alex, 'Nyla' and 'K.N.D.' are the same person. I changed my screen name a
while back, Nyla beig the N. in K.N.D. Are you new? And I always say in my fanfic
that CC 'n co can't sue me, since I have little of value--I'll they'd get would be
their own merch. Alternatively, I sing the copyright song that Ra Enright came up
with, to the tune of 'This Old Man': They're not mine, no money, please please
please please don't sue me... :-

Nyla, your little faces don't show up totally; unless that was intentional.

Enjoy the lyrics!

There are other ways to damage the salability of the prodict without doing anything illegal. One of my friends got the soundtrack for Christmas and she just held the CD player up to the phone so I could hear the Truth (although I didn't feel set freeŠ). Now why should I buy it? I've already heard the good bits. I'm not sure whether that's illegal or not. JMS might think so, but CC qand about 259,999,999 other Americans wouldn't.

Nyla - New to the Discus boards, anyway. I'm credited for my lone nit in Phil's X-Files book (really a lone nit - it was the only one I ever sent him).

Matthew - In that context, I have no idea. Better hope no one's tapping the line, eh? :)

Does anybody know if Martin Landau's character will be back on the X-Files? I thought he was an appropriately creepy dude to bring back on the TV show...but then, I have a thing for gyno's with alien-conspiracy theories :)

Here's a few picky little things i noticed---

1. martin landau tells mulder that he heard that mulder goes to that bar--casey’s--every now and then. mulder must go there when we’re not looking, because i’ve never heard of the place.

2. when mulder and scully first go into the “giant jiffy-pop popper”, they are hit by a gust of air which knocks mulder’s tie over his shoulder. it cuts to a wider shot, and the tie is in its proper place. then it cuts closer again and the tie has returned to it’s position over his shoulder.

3. when mulder and scully start running away from the bees in the giant hive thing the angle of the shot changes twice, getting wider and longer each time. and we see scully undo her jacket in all three angles. one would think it would have been easier to have undone it once and left it that way.

4. i think that the clock in the soda machine/bomb needed to be fixed. when scully calls mulder to tell him they were going to cut through the door, it read 04:56 or thereabouts. clock the time that elapses until the next clear shot we get of the clock. i’m pretty sure it’s a little over a minute. yet the numbers read 04:02 the next time we look at it.

5. not really a nit, just a complaint: they cut mulder’s butt-through-the-hospital-gown scene, but scully gets nude. yeah, that’s real fair.

6. it was really nice of mulder to stop, take off his boots, and give scully a pair of his socks after he released her from the ice/incubator thing. or were the government men who put her there considerate enough to realize that her precious footsies might get chilled?

7. not that i want to make waves or anything, but when mulder finds scully trapped in the ice his eyes shift downward and linger there for several seconds. recalling the condition she was in at the time, i have to wonder what he was looking at.

re two minutes of never-before-seen footage: They added a few more seconds of alien attack-age at the very begining. We get a better look at the alien and its black blood.

re the WMM's death (and Martin Landau's death, and Spender's death, for that matter): Until I see bodies, I don't belive CC for a second. Plenty of characters have "died" off-camera or were assumed dead, only to reappear awhile later: Mulder, Ratboy, Cancerman, Marita, Skinner... am I missing anyone?

I apologize for any offensive spelling mistakes I've made--it's late, I can't sleep, and I'm helpless without SpellCheck.

Do you mind about the spoilers? don't tell us what happens after a specific pasrt, please!!!

and I still wonder, why do u blow up a building only to get rid of 5 little bodies?

Omer, I don't think there is much that can be done about spoilers in other countries. The episode Lauren mentioned aied almost a month ago in the States.

SPOILER
In the pilot, Mulder wears glasses. Yet, they rarely appear. Not even Eddie Van Blunth mentiones them.

Eeeek! Sorry Omer!! My bad!!!
As I said, it was late and I wasn't thinking too clearly. I apologize. For future reference, what episode have you seen up to?

Re the waste of a perfectly good building: I figure that they blew it up so that Scully would have a chance to run around acting tough before they turned her into the damsel in distress. I still love the way her eyes pop out of her head when she screams at Mulder, "THERE'S NO TIME!"

Lauren - it's ok, I don't like Spender too much. I've seen up to the end of the fifth season plus the movie.

I loved Scully's line : Now pick up that phone and make it happen!

Probably they blew up a whole building so they could more easily blame it on someone else. Think about it. Probably the most feared kind of terrorist attack in this country is the Federal Building Kaboom. Everyone woulod be so busy trying to find "John Doe #1" that they would never thing that someone else might be to blame. (BTW, I was in Dallas this past summer, and I don't recall seeing any exploding buildings…)

And I'm surprised that nobody noticed this one. Mulder mentions that it's "some certain event" at the Astrodome that night. It's 4 in the afternoon. Most people don't even think about this since many states are so small, but Houston is a good 5 hour drive from Dallas if one pushes it! There is absolutely no way they could get to the Dome in time! (Yes, I know it was a joke. Pick, pick, pick…)

I still don't get it. you have five bodies to get rid of. burn them. barry them in a box car. put them in a secret H bomb experiment and pull the trigger. keep them in Navada 'with the others' . DON'T BLOW UP a 35 million dollars worth of a building when they are inside? what for? That's so stupid! the area will be filled with journalists and FBI agents. you're simply calling for trouble!

Because the writers owed the special effects people.

I noticed a slight discussion regarding Cigarette-Smoking Man/Cancer Man's aliases. To add to the pile, he also goes by Mr. Hunt, by Raul Bloodworth, and most recently by C.G.B. Spender.
I recall Well-Manicured Man divulging damn near everything to Agent Mulder in regard to his sister Samantha's abduction, when catching it during its theatrical release. What more did they insert into the movie when releasing it on videocassette? Thank you.

Why can you not say D-A-M-N? Is that really considered profanity? It is a good thing Charleston Heston is not adding any comments to the Planet of the Apes section. Heh, heh.

Please! don't refer to anything that happened AFTER the movie without a spoiler message!

For some reason, the censoring utility on the boards is really stringent. I saw another post somewhere else where "stupid" was censored out. Also, for some reason, if I go in and edit the post, the word will not be censored anymore. So I'll go ahead and do that.

D. Stuart--they also added a few seconds of alien attackage during the opening scenes. I'm glad that they did; I saw the movie three times in the theater (I know, I know--I have no life) and I could never tell what was alien and what was neanderthal until I bought the video.

Unfortunatly, they didn't add the one thing I had my heart set on... the Mulder's-naked-rear-through a-backless-hospital-gown shot. In the words of Duchovny himself, "We shot [the scene]. It was me in a hospital gown. But the sight of my bare a** 40 feet high on the screen was just too frightening even for "X-Files" fans."

It is alluded to that Dr. Alvin Kurtzweil (Martin Landau) was shot and placed into the trunk of Well-Manicured Man's luxury car. When the automobile is detonated by inexplicable causes, Dr. Alvin Kurtzweil's corpse was incinerated. Be that as it may, there would still be some type of identifiable remains uncovered. Furthermore, this incident would definitely incite curiosity and controversy as to why Dr. Alvin Kurtzweil (Martin Landau) was in the trunk of this particular luxury car (or in the trunk of any car, for that matter) and why he had so abruptly met his demise. The most adequate method to conceal a secret is by having it out in the open, for one. Secondly, need they have even acknowledged Dr. Alvin Kurtzweil's conspiracy theories/facts? By not having the secret out in the open and eliminating and thus acknowledging those who propose conspiratorial notions, you are already exposed. But then again, that is in my opinion.

During the episode "Synchrony" the character whose future counterpart journeys back to the past so as to alter future events, both of whom bear the name Jason Nichols, hails from a point in time that is far in the future. With the photograph that was acquired five years into the future of the original time line and the age of Jason Nichols's future counterpart, which is presumably around seventy, I deduce that the future from which he departed is around the year 2067. Now keeping that in mind, cogitate for a moment everything in regard to the alien invasion/colonization. Do you mean to tell me that within the range of about seventy years, the conquest never occurred? The future counterpart is substantial proof that humans, if they had contended with the aliens, were not affected by the "black oil" (AKA Purity). Or there is the contingency that the apocalypse was successfully averted, perhaps by our truth-seeking, conspiracy-defying protagonists. After everything is said and done, I believe this episode has provided us a glimpse of a The X-Files future. A future in which we survived and/or prevailed against the aliens.

During the conclusion of the film, you clearly see the sanguineous, assailable aliens in a state of suspended animation. And based upon the amount of individuals retained, as well as the apparent age of this particular spacecraft's interior, I would say they have been there for decades. However, the Syndicate members are astonished to discover that these aliens are gestating after exploiting our bodies as hosts. Did they merely wish not to see the truth?

Hi....it's me... the dreaded one, back after 47 days of Lent, counting Holy Week.
(We're Orthodox, our calendar was a week behind the 'new' one this year.)
Interesting note: One of my fleshfriends just admitted to organizing a big group of
girls to take to the movie. They had forewarning of the almost-kiss, and all are
rabid 'shippers. So after the tearful confession, as they start the hug, they started
sing softly, "C'mon, kiss the girl... (getting progressively louder) don't be shy....
*kiss the girl*... KISS THE GIRL!..." etc. they got thrown out of the theater, but
everyone seemed to think it was hilarious.
lin

Welcome back! You're the one with the iMac, right? Cuz if you are, i got some questions for you.

My "nit-picks" are as numerically proceeds:
1) When Dr. Benjamin Bronschweig contacts "someone" via cell phone during the commencement of the film, he dials one button. Was it the redial button?
2) Special Agent Dana Scully's exact words state, "The X-Files have been closed, Mulder. There's procedure to be followed now." When was there not procedure?
3) When the train stops at the domes, how come no one gets off nor spots our curious protagonists?
4) What are the chances the domes' doors are unlocked?
5) How come they had an astronomically constructed carrier plane to haul one Purity-stricken victim (i.e., Special Agent Dana Scully)? There is more than enough room for at least fifty dozen more.
6) I believe Dr. Benjamin Bronschweig is among the victims who were infected and consequently abducted aboard the alien vessel. He is the second to last individual of which you have a glimpse prior to an encapsulated Special Agent Dana Scully.

I think Mulder just made up the rules as he went along. What FBI manual has proceidure for what to do if your partner swiches bodies with an Area 51 employee?

Welcome back, Nyla! We've missed you.

Re "Synchrony": That's a nice thought, D. Stuart, but didn't the guy who was trying to prevent a horrible future fail? Also, I can't recall if he ever mentioned what about his future was so awful... perhaps the alien invasion is what he came back to fix.

This movie gives new meaning to Keat's words in "Ode to a Nightingale":

Perhaps the self-same song that found a path
Through the sad heart of Ruth, when, sick for home,
She stood in tears amid the alien corn

"Alien corn"! Oh, I LMAO at that one.

D. Stuart> ["When was there not procedure?"] Have you ever watched The X-Files? (j/k) When was there procedure?

And I just heard that there's going to be another 10 minutes of non-theatrical, non-video footage added to the DVD release. Yet another reason to buy a DVD player, I guess.

My "nit-picks" are as numerically proceeds:
1) A ladder-like slope on an extraterrestrial spacecraft? Enough said.
2) When Special Agent Fox Mulder catches a glimpse of an encapsulated Special Agent Dana Scully initially, her hair is floating about in the water. Then as he is pounding the capsule containing Special Agent Dana Scully with his hand, you can clearly see her hair is plastered onto her head. Yet, it returns to floating about in the water by the next scene.
3) It appears as if Special Agent Fox Mulder injects a little over half the vial's content into Special Agent Dana Scully. Why not the entire vial? If there is some residue, could they not scrutinize it and develop several facsimile of the vaccine? For a matter of fact, they could endeavor for a worldwide inoculation, as did scientists for polio.

DVD Movie BUG!!

Chapter seven, when Mulder's walking out of Kurzweil's apartment, my DVD locked up. I took it back to Tower for a new one, and when I popped it into my player, it locked up at the exact same instant.

Anyone else have this problem?

Does the DVD version have anything that VHS doesn't have

You mean besides the bug, right? :-)

While waiting for the DVD release, we resisted watching the VHS version, so I'm not completely sure. Having watched the DVD now, I don't recall seeing any non-theatrical footage. Where is it in the VHS version? I had heard that the DVD would have 15 minutes of non-theatrical AND non-video footage.

What IS included are the usual DVD extras: menu selection, language selection and subtitles. I don't really consider those extras anymore. In addition, you'll find an audio-commentary by Carter and Bowman. (I've watched some of it. Nothing special so far.) You'll also find the "Making of" thingie and the three theatrical trailers.

Please let me know where the extra footage is, so I can tell if it's here or not.

It's in the car discussion, when Well-Barbecued Man tells Mulder about Samantha. Also, they added some alien attack footage in the maiming of the caveman and the guy at the Texas site.

Okay, then the extra footage is in the DVD. (Whether there's any non-VHS footage, someone else will have to say.)

Cool, I heard that there would be. I thought I was gunna have to go out and spend the money I have saved for a 3d card on a DVD player.

I recently noticed a resemblance between John Fitzgerald Byers and Pres. John Fitzgerald Kennedy. For starters, their first two names (i.e., John Fitzgerald) are the same. And secondly, the coiffure (def.: hairstyle) is primped identically.

That's probably not a coincidence--Byers's parents named him after the former president because Byers was born on the day that Kennedy was assasinated.

Corn is not pollinated by bees. Corn is a wind pollinator.

Well, it is now!

I don't know if this has already been mentioned, but the glaciers during the ice ages never reached North Texas, and it is generally not believed that humans were living in North America at that time either.

I don't know if someone posted this, but watch Mulder's tie as he walks in to the place where they keep the bees. When he walks in it blows back over his left shoulder. Then, in the next shot, it is straight again. Then the top vents open and they show that it's over his shoulder again. It doesn't look like the fans blow enough to put the tie back over his shoulder. If it did, it should have blown Scully's hair a little. I guess he thought it looked stylish.

Or he had a Dilbert moment.

Ccabe: 3. At the beginning of the review board hearings, they mention Waco and Ruby Ridge. Why don't they mention Oklohoma City? The incidents are simillar.

I don't think so. Oklahoma City was a terrorist incident. Waco and Ruby Ridge were two instances where potentially innocent people lost their lives because of FBI neglect. The issue wasn't that a building blew up; it was that the FBI was on the case and failed to stop it. The whole point of the hearing was that Mulder and Scully ostensibly violated orders by being in the wrong building. Mulder then "broke a primary tactical directive" by leave SAC Mishoe in the building alone. Therefore, they were trying to pin the blame on him to save the FBI's image.

I just watched X-Files on DVD and I noticed something interesting. When Mulder is out behind the bar taking a leak, he is peeing on the movie poster Independence Day. Is that how Chris Carter felt towards that movie. I sure did.

Reportedly Chris Carter hated ID4 and stuck that bit in because of it, since it was also a 20th century Fox movie they didn't have any legal problems.

Does the trip to Antarctica and the discovery of a vast alien ship in this film remind anyone of Lovecraft's "At the Mountains of Madness"?

Charles Cabe: Why does it say "Present Day", not the year at the beginning? They could tell the exact year for the 35,000 BC scene.
Luigi Novi: They didn’t want the film to appear too dated to future viewers.

Charles Cabe: At the beginning of the review board hearings, they mention Waco and Ruby Ridge. Why don't they mention Oklohoma City? The incidents are simillar.
Luigi Novi: The point that Gwyneth Paltrow’s mom was making was that the FBI had messed up in recent years with poor judgement (or the perception thereof by the public). (I personally wouldn’t call it "neglect."). Oklahoma City wasn’t the FBI’s fault. In fact, they did a great job of catching McVeigh and Nichols.

Too corny for a funny heading
Bees do not pollinate corn.
Geez, that 911 service really is slow in some cities!
After Mulder and Scully escape the swarm of bees, Mulder is seen in his office, and it is clearly daylight outside. Scully comes to see him after being transferred to Salt Lake City. They almost kiss before she is bit by one of the Africanized honey bees, and when the faux paramedics show up, it’s nighttime!

Just one point of interest: after Mulder finds the bomb in the soda machine, Scully orders the security guards to evacuate the building and to call the Dallas FD and have the city center blocked off in a one-mile radius from the building where the bomb is.

The thing is, the bomb's actual site is "across the street" from the Federal bldg, where the bomb was suspected to be. Since the bomb's presumed and actual locations are are close together (maybe 150-200 yards, based on our view of the actual bldg from the top of the fed. bldg), shouldn't the area already be sealed off, and shouldn't all nearby buildings be evacuated? Or is it FBI policy not to seal off an area until the bomb is actually located?

In fact, let me post a follow-up to my post (over 2 years later!):

There was a bomb threat called in to the Federal Building, even though the bomb was across the street. Because the wrong building was reported, the search teams would never find the bomb. But why report it at all? Simple: by reporting a bomb but in the wrong building, innocent civilians are spared (since all nearby buildings are evacuated) but the bomb isn't found.

Was there another place where this movie was discussed; in the archives perhaps? I seem to remember more posts about it.

Anywho, these were probably already mentioned and I missed them skimming the board but when Mulder is locked in the vending room and they start torching the door the sparks appear to be coming from the center of the door, from inside the room, yet when they're finished the cut is only a few inches from the edge. Also, how did Mulder get the front of the soda machine open? Those usually require a certain type of key to open, or some tools and if the latter is the case why not use those them to get out instead?

There seems to be some confusion as to why the Syndicate decided to put the four bodies in this building then blow it up. While I can't explain why they simply weren't taken into the desert and burned, this building was chosen because of the FEMA office and by calling in a bomb threat at a different building it was intended to have more casualties in this one, thereby making the four bodies seem less suspicious. Jesse: But why report it at all? Simple: by reporting a bomb but in the wrong building, innocent civilians are spared (since all nearby buildings are evacuated) It's true, the surrounding buildings were evacuated as well but after a lengthy search the people returned, at least to the one that actually had the bomb, and had to be re-evacuated.

The Consortium looked surprised by the revelation of the virus 'mutating' causing alien gestation in human bodies, but when Mulder finds the ship at the end it was obvious several of the frozen bodies already had gestating aliens in them, so what am I missing here? In the mythology or conspiracy board it was surmised that there were three different strains of the black oil, which makes sense, but it seems the version here is the oldest so the Consortium should've already known about it.

This one I'm sure was mentioned before but despite it being caught in her collar I still find it incredibly unlikely that the bee that stung Scully stayed there so long. She wouldn't have adjusted her jacket on the plane, or when making herself more presentable for the board, or even when putting it back on after leaving the apiary?

It's taken I don't know how many viewings but I finally realized that the driver of Scully's ambulance, and shot Mulder in the head, was the same guy who delivered the bomb in the soda machine.

D. Stuart: I believe [...] Bronschweig is among the victims who were infected and consequently abducted aboard the alien vessel. He is the second to last individual of which you have a glimpse prior to an encapsulated [...] Scully
I don't know if we're suppose to know the frozen people Mulder comes across before Scully but I didn't recognize any of them. I'm not saying it wasn't Bronschweig but it doesn't make sense for it to be him since he was probably going to die from his injuries and they had already buried him.

D.S.: It appears as if [...] Mulder injects a little over half the vial's content into [...] Scully. Why not the entire vial?
Good question, I wondered that was well. I also wondered why Fox didn't make sure he kept the remaining vaccine vial; could've been quite useful in several ways.