Titan A.E.

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: Movies: Animation: Non-Disney Films: Titan A.E.
By Meg on Friday, June 16, 2000 - 6:13 pm:

This movie was so great.
The only thing that bothered me was the way they ripped off teh genisis device from The Wrath of Khan

Other than that, Great Movie, great music, great animation.


By G'var on Wednesday, June 21, 2000 - 7:58 pm:

Well if you look at the movie as a montage of ripoffs then lets see:
Star Trek: Genesis Device
Star Wars: All the aliens in the cantina/cafeteria
Battlestar Galactica: The we need to find a home theme, blasters that have recoil, low tech high tech.
Star Blazers: We need to find a home/save the earth

On the good points it was nice to see a movie or show other than Babylon 5 Where the Humans weren't the biggest,baddest, most powerful force out there. even if the main characters had a major hero effect in place throughout the moive.


By Meg on Friday, June 23, 2000 - 4:26 pm:

SOme of the battle scenes with Heavy metal music in the background reminded me of "Heavy Metal"


By Joe Pintar on Saturday, June 24, 2000 - 7:36 pm:

This is a good movie, but not a great one.
It seems to have every single sci fi movie cliche in the book with the exception of the •••••• guard. The guard they overpower is actually on to the heroes' deception. That was a cute scene.


By Michael Conlon on Wednesday, June 28, 2000 - 9:20 am:

Shoudn't this be in the Non-Disney Animation list?


By ScottN on Thursday, June 29, 2000 - 9:04 am:

G'var, don't forget the Stargate music ripoff (in the trailers, at least - I haven't seen the film yet).


By G'var on Thursday, June 29, 2000 - 9:47 pm:

I don't remember the trailer too well, and I don't remember it from the movie. I do remember some cool rock music from the movie though. I may pick up the soundtrack. I would go check the movie again but its already out of the local theater and I'll have to wait for it to get to the $2 super saver before I can see it again.


By Kira Sharp on Friday, June 30, 2000 - 12:40 pm:

Boy you guys are nice! (I enjoyed this movie, btw.)

Apparently fashions will not have changed much in the next thousand years. None of the humans we see here would look out of place on a 21st century street. Now picture Robin Hood or King Richard I strolling down Michigan Avenue today. Talk about cultural stagnation.

Jar Jar Binks was not funny as a hero's sidekick. He was not cute. He was not hip. Evil womanizing Jar Jar Binks is still not funny or cute or hip. What is he still doing here?!?!

Evil Jar Jar (I forget the character's name, you know who I mean) makes passes at Akema; later, alien slave-traders describe Akema as "a pretty one." Picture the most babacious Gorn you could ever hope to find: teeth like razors, skin like emerald, eyes like opals, lovely shapely legs, a smile to die for. Are we turned on yet? I don't think so. Standards of mating beauty do not transcend biological family.

I am way impressed by the accuracy of Cale's map. Barely 4 cm in diameter, it still can give directions accuratly enough to locate a specific spot on a specific planet, like locating the US consulate of Beijing from the moon.

As they are being chased by the Dredge among the hydrogen trees, Akema shoots one bubble before they run into it. This would be a wise plan if the flames were to dissipate before your ship reached the site. This time, however, the heroes appear to speed right through the flames and emerge unharmed anyway.

"Take it off, you fool! Take off the ring!" Too bad Gandalf wasn't here to advise Cale. Why doesn't he take off his ring when captured by the Dredge? There's a good chance they wouldn't know to make him place a circular piece of metal over one of his minor appendages in order to make the map work, and that would have prevented them from getting their information.

I am impressed by the Dredge's knowledge of human development. Although Cale and Akema are fully mature, they know enough to classfiy them as "boy" and "girl" rather than "man" and "woman." Or maybe that's just the subtitler's choice. ;)

When I become an evil supervillain determined to destroy the human race, I will make sure my language scramblers are properly functioning, so that my enemies can not occansionally understand my speech as Cale and Akema do.

Why do the Dredge waste material and energy on encasing Akema before ejecting her into space? She's a politically useless being of a species they are trying to wipe out. There is no reason for them to be so nice.

On the other hand, there is no mistake in assuming that Akema will not run out of air before she is found by the slave-traders. If this little nicety is a common Dredge pratice, traders probably hover around Dredge exhaust pipes hoping to pick up some free merchandise.

When I become said supervillain, I will also make sure that my engines and accelerators are properly functioning. This will prevent SEVERAL DAYS from ticking by between MY ORDERS TO DESTROY THE TITAN AND WIPE OUT THE HUMAN RACE and THE TIME WE ACTUALLY REACH THE SHIP, giving my enemies time to make several side trips to places described as "the back end of nowhere" before reaching the secret location quite significantly before we do!!!

Speaking of those premature orders, the Dredge overlord's order to wipe out the human race is needlessly melodramatic. They're not going on a hunt.

At New Bangkok, we find out that Korso has ben working for the Dredge all along. If this is so, why were Dredge soldiers shooting (to KILL, mind you) at Korso and Cale as they fled the station at the movie's start? Who is on whose side here?

Korso makes a good point when he tells the Dredge that only Cale has the complete working map. Why then doesn't he try to recapture Cale when he disappears onto the colony?

Despite the fact that this is 1000 years from now, the repair crew of the Phoenix is still all male.

Why don't any of the skilled people of Drifter Colony accompany Akema and Cale on their chancy and dangerous mission to save humanity's last hope?

Korso's sudden reform and willingness to sacrifice his life so that the Titan may work surprises me. Why precisely is he doing this?

The end of the movie demonstrates how the Titan's power cells eat Dredge ships and their occupants for breakfast. Why wasn't this technology used as a weapon during the defense of Earth?


By G'var on Friday, June 30, 2000 - 10:06 pm:

All very good points Kira. I suppose the Dredji (dredjes, Dredjae) that was shooting at Korso and Kale in the begining got a little over\ealous when told to make it look good when they attaked.As for the fashion sense maybe everything that goes around comes around is still true.
As for Korso he got awed by Cale's hero effet and deided to do the Vadereske redemption from the dark side through death manouever.
All in all I found it to be a light little movie that was big on eye kandy and light on filling. If it were a food stuff I would have to ompare it to a very prettily ised donut.
PS sorry about the typing but the letter (see) is malfunktioning on this keyboard and its time for a new one.


By allegra on Wednesday, July 05, 2000 - 10:42 pm:

kira, great rant! good points. I loved this movie, even with all it's warts. I love the music, too...it's one of the few soundtracks I've bought where I love almost every song in it.
I think Korso admired Cale's father, and was touched by Cales' courage and integrity. Korso was a desperate human in need of prozac and a good lay, not a truly evil bad guy.


By MarkN on Monday, October 02, 2000 - 2:23 am:

I'm watching this now on a tape that someone from work whose parents own a videostore lent me. The only nit I could find right offhand was when we first see Cale as an adult working in space and he goes flying around on the that little spacecycle-like thing and he its that approaching starship and goes bouncing on its surface as if thre wree gravity on it! He should've gone floating off into space.

Now Cale and Kroso wnet floating into space without benefit of spacesuits, propelled only by a fire extinguisher into that friendly ship of Akema's that picks them up.

Well, I'm just gonna watch this tape and not pick anymore nits, although one big disappointment of it is that's a promo tape, not for rent or resale, as it says in an occasional scrolling message. Very annoying. Love the CGI SPFX, though.


By MarkN on Monday, October 02, 2000 - 2:27 am:

BTW, Cale looks quite a lot like my oldest nephew. It's also fun to pick out voices I recognize, like Drew Barrymore as Akema and John Leguizamo as the toadlooking alien, and Harvey Fierstein as the alien that Cale eats with when the gravity failed. I'll look in the credits for the rest at the end.


By Spornan on Monday, October 02, 2000 - 4:47 am:

I think Janeane Gorafolo(sp?) was the long legged weaponsmith alien.


By Brian Webber on Monday, October 02, 2000 - 6:57 pm:

MarkN: It was Tone Loc, NOT Harvey Firestein.


By Jason on Friday, December 29, 2000 - 4:53 pm:

This movie was loaded with eye candy. The ice field scenes were just awesome.

Why did the doors shut on the salvage station when the gravity went out?

Did the Humans sufferer from "Lets Leave Our Homeworld Defenseless Syndrome" that ST suffers from? We see that hand weapons will vaporize Dreje ships, yet the Dreje just waltz over to Earth and blow it up.


By Túrin on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 5:11 pm:

Just wondering... what's to prevent the bad guys from blowing up the new planet as well? If they can *destroy an entire planet* then aren't they going to win, unless they get taken out themselves? It's not like it's a super happy ending there. A new planet, a few drifter ships, a nice big target for the bad guys.

Also, does anyone have a schematic for the Titan in case they need another one?


By Brian Fitzgerald on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 8:01 pm:

Perhaps that Dredge mothership (the one that was nearly as big as Earth) was the whole race, in which case they are all gone.


By MikeC on Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 2:28 pm:

Maybe I was just in a bad mood when I watched this, but I thought this was very overrated. While there are some good points, there are a lot of annoying/poor things to it.

*The movie has a bite. Just because it's a cartoon, it doesn't pull its punches and we have Really Rotten Bad Guys. No inane, useless comic relief sidekicks. People die. That's good.

The voice acting is a mixed bag:
*Bill Pullman is excellent as the Han Solo-like Korso and Janeane Garafolo, normally someone I detest, does do a fine job as the gunner. Nathan Lane contributes the best vocal performance as the snobby first mate. John Leguizamo is erratic--he does the part as written, but that doesn't mean I have to like his fondling manic-depressive character. The leads, unfortunately, are played by two performers who are pretty bland even when they're on camera--Matt Damon and Drew Barrymore. Damon's character just sounds too much like Damon standing in front of a microphone reading lines to be believable.

*The plot is a fairly good one. Putting aside from unbelievable aspects (Cale's dad has one heck of a convoluted Plan B), I do like how as the movie goes on, what seems to be silly things makes sense later (Corso immediately finding out where Akima is seems impossible until later revelations make things clearer).

*The film's major flaw are the villains. The Dredge (Drej?) are boring, boring, boring. We don't even hate them because they're just blue dots.

*This might have worked better as a television miniseries; the search for the Titan should have had more majesty than this. The climax is pretty good, but it's kind of a draggy way of getting there.


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