This movie has a tenative release date in July of 2001. I can't wait!

Snoogens!

Scooch to the muthafuckin nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, watch the language!

Actual release date is August 10, 2001

Apparently Eliza Dushku (Faith from BTVS) will be in this movie... All I can say is YES! I'll be running around for the next six months echoing Drizzt's statement!

Cast List from the OFFICAL View Askew website.

JOEY LAUREN ADAMS
BEN AFFLECK
JEFF ANDERSON
DIEDRICH BADER
JASON BIGGS
MARC BLUCAS
GEORGE CARLIN
EVER CARRADINE
ADAM CAROLLA
MATT DAMON
SHANNEN DOHERTY
ELIZA DUSHKU
SHANNON ELIZABETH
DWIGHT EWELL
WILL FERRELL
CARRIE FISHER
MARK HAMILL
RENÉE HUMPHREY
ALI LARTER
JASON LEE
JASON MEWES
TRACY MORGAN
ALANIS MORISSETTE
SCOTT MOSIER
JUDD NELSON
BRIAN O'HALLORAN
CHRIS ROCK
SEANN WILLIAM SCOTT
JENNIFER SMITH
KEVIN SMITH
JON STEWART
JAMES VAN DER BEEK
JULES ASNER
STEVE KMETKO
JOE QUESADA (Marvel Comics Editor-In-Chief)
PAUL DINI (Batman Adventures Writer/Producer)
HARLEY QUINN SMITH (Kevin's daughter)
MORRIS DAY AND THE TIME
AN UNSPECIFIED MARVEL COMICS CHARACTER

Sweet, huh?

Really? Interesting list. Now I'm really ••••••• stoked! I gotta see this movie!

Ever Carradine plays Tiffany on "Once and Again." Some Jersey people may be disappointed, because only minimal filming was done here. Most shooting was in California locations doubling for Jersey.

We all know who it is who posts as "Drizzt DoUrden"...

It's Drizt Do'Urdin. Apostrophes don't shw up in the By _________ thingee.

Drizzt Do'Urden.

Anyone want a free movie poster? I have an extra JaSBSB poster, and don't need or want it. Contact me at nightscreamnovi@hotmail.com, and I'll just send it to ya.

Luigi Novi

oooooh! I'd love it but I don't do personal stuff over the internet. Can't wait to see the movie!

Well, you can email, aifix, and I can send to you. If you don't want to give your address to me, what about a PO Box, or the address of a friend or place of work, or something. I'd rather give it to someone who'd like it than throw it out.

AHHHK! Throw it out! And the "movie" too. That was to hours wasted that I whant back!

LN -- that's okay, but thanks for the offer anyway! Maybe in 20 years you can get $400 for it on e-bay.

Luigi Novi, do you still have that poster. If you do man, I would really like it.

My biggest nit with the movie was that when they were in hollywood Matt Damon talked about making Dogma. Since all the movies take place in the same Universe he shouldn't have really talked about making it. Does That make any sense?

Of course not. Kevin Smith alternately makes movies with heart movies that are merely self-indulgent. Clerks and Chasing Amy were examples of the former. Mallrats and this one were the latter. Dogma was a bit scattershot, an attempt to make a movie with substance, but which got a bit sidetracked here and there with self-indulgence.

Meg, the poster's yours. Just tell me where to send it. If you want to email me in private, my address in nightscreamnovi@hotmail.com

As Roger Ebert pointed out this movie is not so much self-indulgence as it is indulgence of the fans, us.

I didn't feel indulged. The self-referential stuff was okay, as was the bit with Jason Biggs and James Van Der Beek, but the rest was all blowjob jokes. When you have nothing but nonstop jokes about bodily functions and sex, it simply gets old and boring really fast. I'm not offended or anything, and if a given gag is funny, fine, but all the needless repetitiveness is a sign of laziness and lack of creativity on the part of a writer. I thought the 4-issue Jay and Silent Bob comic book miniseries (alternately titled Chasing Dogma), which ended with Jay and Bob in an abortion clinic parking lot, and led right into the scene in Dogma where they save Bethany, was WAY funnier than this movie. I felt far more indulged reading that. The appearances of Fred Rogers, Neil Patrick Harris and two of the characters from The Breakfast Club were priceless. (In Dogma, after saving Bethany, Jay explains to her some of the details of their journey in the comic.)

Moreover, Kevin recycled the ENTIRETY of issue #3 of Chasing Dogma into the film: Jay's paranoid vision of apes taking over the world, (complete with Dante's skullcap being removed, predating the use of such a visual in Hannibal by three years, and an image of orangutans replacing the head of the statue in the Lincoln Memorial with an ape head, predating Planet of the Apes' use of that image also by three years), a self-aggrandizing Federal Wildlife Marshall (depicted and illustrated in the comic as Tommy Lee Jones as Deputy Gerard from The Fugitive, far superior to Will Ferrell's generic moron portrayal), escaping the diner (called Sybil's in the comic, as opposed to The Arena Diner in the movie, more on that below) by pretending to be a gay couple (with the ape, named Suzanne in the comic, posing as a boy with a baseball cap, not a girl with blonde locks, as in the movie), the easily-fooled marshall letting them go because of politics, ending up at the drainage terminal of a huge dam, the ape saving Jay and Bob by grabbing them, jumping off the terminal and holding onto a metal bar while the Marshall jumps and falls (to his death in the comic). Hell, ENTIRE LINES OF DIALOGUE are lifted from Chasing Dogma, like Jay's line to the Marshall about him doing a girl to conceive the ape so as not to be all-the-way gay, but that Bob's totally gay, etc. The movie was just a rip-off, and if my friend Chris hadn't treated me because it was my birthday yesterday, I wouldn't have even gone.

An interesting note:

The scene in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back where Jay decides to keep the orangutan was filmed at the Vasquez Rocks, a county park that was used in Shore Leave(TOS) for the Kirk/Finnegan fight, as well as Arena(TOS), The Alternative Factor(TOS), Friday’s Child(TOS), and Who Watches the Watchers(TNG), and that the diner from which Jay and Bob escape with the ape by posing as a gay couple was called the "Arena Diner"

Oh shut up this movie suked as much as the dam dumb jokes did. I got dragged to it against my will and hated it. I am mad at my girl, her sister and her supid oofball slacker boyfriend. All misspellings are intentional to get around the censors.

If you didn't like Smith's other movies you wouldn't like Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. Now I don't flame people for talking about whatever •••• you like and I'd appricate the same from you. As for being dragged to something you don't like, either grow up and deal with it some other way than bitching at other fans, or grow a set of balls and tell her you don't want to go.

Listen, ya little FUCKSTICK, if you bothered to read the post, you'd have seen that I SAID I didn't like it.

Why don't YOU take your BALLS OUT OF YOUR GIRLFRIEND'S PURSE, reattach them, and simply tell her that you DON'T WANT TO GO? For you tell me to shut up, aside from being impolite and an unnecessary breach of Nitcentral etiquette, is hypocritical, given that you and I have the same feelings about the movie. Why should I shut up, but you be able to state your opinions, when your opinion of the movie is the same as mine?

Now, onto other business…

Okay, I messed up a bit in my post above. While recruiting for a Tuesday test screening today, I caught some of JaSBSB again, and the orangutan doesn’t have blonde locks, nor is she referred to as Jay and Bob’s daughter, she does indeed have a cap and is said to be their son. Funny how sometimes you can remember things incorrectly, even soon after. The yellow part of the ape’s hood threw me off.

But I do have three other nits and notes:

I noted above how Jay and Bob hooked up with an orangutan named Suzanne in issue #3 of the Jay and Silent Bob miniseries, Chasing Dogma, which was a riff on The Fugitive, and how it was recycled into the movie. What I forgot until today was that when Justice asks Jay in the van if they’ll help them free a "monkey," Jay tells them that he and Bob have had experience with stealing monkeys, a reference to that issue. So if we were to see Jay and Bob’s adventures starting from the miniseries to this movie, we would’ve seen them relive the same event twice.

Also, three different people who see Jay’s manhood in Chasing Dogma remark on how small it is: Tricia Jones in issue #1, when Jay enters her shower with her in it, a porn actress in issue #2, when Jay drops his pants in public to show her what he’s got, and then a small child in the same scene who asks his mommy why the man’s "pee-pee" is "littler" than his own. But in this movie, when he first sees Justice, the bulge in his pants is far larger than Chasing Dogma led us to believe.

Not a nit, just a curious chronology note: In issue #1 of Chasing Dogma, Tricia Jones, the researcher who let Ben Affleck’s character have anal sex with her on tape in Mallrats, is on the phone with Holden McNeil (Ben Affleck from Chasing Amy), and just learns then that he broke up with her sister Alicia (Joey Lauren Adams from Chasing Amy) less than a week earlier. Jay and Silent Bob are asleep in her living room. She throws them out, and by the end of the miniseries, which can’t take more than a week or two, they’re sitting in an abortion clinic parking lot, and witness three kids with hockey pucks chase after a clinic employee, Bethany, and (off panel) assault her. They run off the panel to intervene, which leads into the scene in Dogma where they rescue her. But WAITAMINUTE—The last scene of Chasing Amy takes place A YEAR after the one right before it, with Holden, Banky and Alicia having parted ways and meeting again at a comic book convention. This would mean that Dogma was actually set BEFORE the last scene of Chasing Amy!

Kevin Smith has entered the big budget leagues with this one. "Clerks" cost about $30,000 to make. I read yesterday that Miramax sprang for $30 million for this pic. (Yes, the average pic costs about $70 million these days) Still, we have come a long way from 1979, when the bloated budget of "Star Trek - The Motion Picture" ($44 million) was considered scandalous.

Dogma does take place before the last scene in Chasing Amy. Remember that during the Jay & Silent Bob scene in Amy Jay has a bus ticket to Chicago and says that they have "business" their. Than in Chasing Dogma issue 1 they go meet Holden for the last time and when they come out of the diner Jay asks Silent Bob why he has to always tell that "gay Amy story".

Luigi I just started College so once i get my new P.O. Box number I'll give it to you Okay. Thanks for the poster.

Kevin Smith has entered the big budget leagues with this one. "Clerks" cost about $30,000 to make. I read yesterday that Miramax sprang for $30 million for this pic.

According to the imdb the budget for this flick was $15 million. I think the $30 is what M0iramax put into the advertising of the flick after higher than expected results on the test screenings.

WHOA, I totally MISSED that, Brian! (At least the first time I read it.)

Thanks for pointing it out to me.

Meg, I hear ya loud and clear. Don't be a stranger!

Luigi, My e-mail is down. I'll try to give you my address as soon as possible.

Okey dokey!

The biggest theater, 7:30 pm, Thursday of the first week's run. I'm there 10 minutes before the movie starts, and nobody else is there! A few did filter in during the next few minutes, but I had almost a whole big theater to myself.

Saw it. Liked it OK. Feel a little bit like after seeing Return of the Jedi. Pretty OK, but couldn't live up to my expectations. Definitely made for the fans, or viewers, of his previous work. I would have been embarassed to take someone along that had no prior knowledge of the "askewniverse".

Dang! From all the above posts I knew I should've read the copy of Chasing Dogma first (still sitting in my "to be read" stack).

One in-joke I know I should know: Prior to entering the diamond building, one of the girls does a silent hand-direction thing that I know I saw in another movie. Anyone know what that's from?

The "shared moment" gesture from Chasing Amy (bringing your index fingers together).

BTW the flick came in number 2 at the box office behind American Pie 2. $11 million in the first 3 days. A bit lower than they were hoping for but not bad for a movie that was made for $15 million. As Kevin said "the day we mourn an 11.1 million dollar opening is the day I want out of this business".

Luigi, I got the poster. Thank you. I love it.

Wow! I sent it Tuesday and you got it TODAY? Well, who says snail mail is slow? Glad you like it.

BTW, I don't know if you're a Trekker, but I made a post on the Enterprise board announcing that I'm getting rid of the Enterprise-D cutaway poster that I've had for the past several years. It's about 48 inches x 25 3/8 inches, and in near perfect condition. I know it's dated, but like the poster, I'd rather give it to someone who wants it, instead of trashing it. It's FREE, but because of its size, whoever wants it will have to pay for postage. Spread the word.

I already have one like that. But I'll spread the word.

Thanks, buddy.

-- Apparently Eliza Dushku (Faith from BTVS) will be in this movie... All I can say is YES! I'll be running around for the next six months echoing Drizzt's statement! --

So what's so special about Eliza Dushku?

So what's so special about Eliza Dushku?

She's sexy as hell, and more importantly she's a bad girl. Check out her spread and interview from Maxim magazine a few months back.

Great Lines: "Are you even supposed to be here today?" "Don't get me started." Vinnie Perreria in one of his many VA cameos and Dante at the beginning of the flick. I still remember how great it was being in the theatre for this movie. I went and saw it twice! I loved it when the big fans (you could tell who they were) practically squealed when Randal came on screen. And Will Ferel was hillarious! He's funnier in this moive than he is on SNL, which proves what I've ben trying to tell my family for years. It's not the cast who stinks, it's the writers. Just look at Cheri O'Teri in Scary Movie or Molly Shannon in Happiness.

The Spectre: So what's so special about Eliza Dushku?
Luigi Novi: SHWING!

Y'know, if you pay attention in the Quick Stop scenes, you can see the roofer (from Clerks, in the discussion about the independent contractors killed when Death Star 2 went up) in the background for a few seconds. Apparently that same guy had just happened to stop by the Quick Stop that day while they were filming the scene, and they talked him into the subtle cameo.

They filmed those scenes last, too, by the way. Kevin figured it was only fitting to finish off the filming of the View Askewniverse movies in the same place where they started.