"Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure" and
"Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey" nits, notes, comments, etc. to be posted here.

Be excellent to each other!

I think the 2nd one is better than the first.

One of the funny bits was the trip to El Vasquez and the EXACT LOCATION in which Capt. Kirk fought the Gorn in "Arena" (Bill & Ted were watching that episode on TV just minutes before going there.)

It's "Vasquez Rocks", not "El Vasquez". It's about 20 minutes from my house.

"Hey Royal Ugly Dudes!"

R.U.D.: Put them in the Iron Maiden!
B&T: Excellent!
R.U.D.: Execute them!
B&T: Bogus!

I knew "Vasquez" fit in there somewhere.

Hey, ScottN...see any Gorn out by Vasquez Rocks?

I love the games vs. Death scenes too.

For some reason, Death Incarnate is my favorite character in almost anything he appears in.... I guess there is just so much potential in this character.

You have sunk my battleship!

I didn't learn this until recently, but William Sadler, our old pal Sloan of Section 31, played Death.

I think that we did that bit on one of the Trek boards, I forget which one.

Unfortunately, I think it was lost in the Great Collapsing Hrung Nitcentral Disaster of Betelgeuse VII 2000.

I'm sure we can come up with some convoluted way of explaining that Death is part of Section 31....

Sadler also had another role in Bill & Ted. Near the end, as the citizens of the world watch De Nomolus on television, Sadler appears without makeup as the British viewer. I think he says something like "heavens" or "oh lord."

Apparently, Joss Ackland's (CBE) children wanted him to be in the second film so much he eventually agreed.

As for double-acting, apparently Alex Winter also played the Preston Grandma in Bill's personal hell.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Dr. Who connection... traveling through time in a phonebooth

Other than the (temporary) removal of historical figures from the timeline, these movies seem to have causality down pat.

Namely, if something happens because of a time traveller, it will always have happened. Very well done.

Cf. the scenes where they get Ted's Dad's keys, the scenes inside the police station, and in "Bogus Journey", the whole battle between B&T and De Nomolus.

But I'd like to know how they rigged the trash can to fall on Ted's dad at the exact moment needed. Perhaps if the camera had panned up, we would have seen Future Ted and/or Bill perched in the rafters.

Bill and Ted 3 will go into production soon, for release in August, 2020. With both Keanu Reeves and Alex Winter.

Yeah. I love the Bill and Ted movies, but I'm not sure this is one that needs to be made, especially with George Carlin no longer part of the equation. However, as usual, I reserve judgement until I have actually watched the thing.

Wouldn't the young Princesses from Excellent Adventure also now be in their 50s or 60s?


Yeah Bill and Ted: The Unnecessary Sequel to the Unnecessary Sequel will be strictly a nostalgia-aimed flick.

This is really happening? It's not a joke??

Let's make a sequel to a movie series, who's last entry came out before the current movie going audience were even born. That ought to knock em dead.

Did they learn NOTHING from the Blade Runner sequel fiasco? The only audience that movie did well with was those that were old enough to have seen the original (which came out in 1982). Well, past the desired movie audiences ages (late teens, early 20's).

The reason the Blade Runner sequel bombed with young people, the desired audience, is because they had no idea what it was. Same will apply here for this movie.

This is really happening? It's not a joke??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_x2C4L6quA

Bill and Ted 3 will go into production soon, for release in August, 2020. With both Keanu Reeves and Alex Winter.

Most triumphant!

With all respect to Keanu Reeves and Alex Winters, they are both simply too old to convincingly play these characters anymore. If they'd done this 20-25 years ago, maybe, but not now.

I have a hard time picturing young people plonking down money to see two 50+ year old men saying "Party on, dudes!"

Yeah this film is for those who were born in the 1970s and were teens in 1988.

Yeah this film is for those who were born in the 1970s and were teens in 1988.

Well above the desired ages that moviegoers usually aim for.

The kids that pack the theatres to see movies, like the latest Marvel movie, will have no idea who these characters are.

This is why the show with the Fonz got cancelled - cause no one wants to see a 50 year old guy chatting up women young enough to be his daughters.

TPTB don't think that they can just stick any actor into George Carlin's role, do they?

The only way I can see this working is if Bill & Ted take over the Rufus-type role, mentoring some other pair of losers.

Bill & Ted's Arthritic Adventure ;)

I should mention that both Winters and Reeves have obviously dyed hair in that clip... which will be torn to pieces by snarky critics.

Bill and Ted are almost 60. Do guys want to see a 60 year old man hitting on chicks?

Judi, see my April 01 comment.

The only way this will work is if it's like Star Trek Generations or Indiana Jones 4 - a smaller role for the original protagonist(s) of the series and a set up for a new central character.

Trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hAL7emClFM

Going by that trailer, Professor Snape is in Wyld Stallyns.

This is really happening? It's not a joke??

It's happened. The pic is titled Bill And Ted Face The Music. It's out now, and seems to have bypassed theaters, in the wake of Covid-19. The pic can be streamed or ordered on-demand for $20-25. Me, I'd rather spend that cash on Shatner's new album The Blues.

Best is did bypass the theatres, because it would have been a box office dud. No one is gonna plonk down money to watch two middle aged men act like the teenage stoners they were 30 years ago.

Besides, it's highly unlikely that anyone born after 1995 even knows who Bill and Ted are.

I remember when people used to come on this website to be enthusiastic about things.

Me too JD- I blame Emily and her negative attitude on the Who boards. Most of the posters from there permeate to other boards....

It's in theatres, at least drive-ins. I saw it last night.

It was good but not great.

And they do address the 25-30 year gap between films in B&T3.

I don't blame anyone, I think society in general has gotten meaner and more disaffected. We had really miserable chunks back in 2000-2005 on here but they were outliers, not the norm.

Thanks for the real review, Soott

It's actually getting some reasonable reviews.

I wonder how many of these reviewers are under 50?

Seriously, was there really a fan demand for this? Most moviegoers (late teens to early 20's) were not even alive when the last Bill and Ted film came out, and those they would have no emotional investment in the characters.

Some movie series can span generations, while others can't. For every Star Wars, there is a Blues Brothers 2000.

Sometimes, IMO, the past is best left in the past.

Keanu Reeves deserves a Razzie for his performance here, which is woeful.

As a Bill & Ted fan for about 30 years, I take no pleasure in saying this.

Before seeing Face The Music, which I quite enjoyed, read the review of it by Vicky Roach from the Sydney Sunday Telegraph in which she says that the title is misleading.
I responded to this statement:
"Vicky Roach began her review of Bill and Ted Face the Music by saying that the title is a bit misleading.
It is only misleading if it is interpreted in the metaphorical sense.
Anyone knows Bill and Ted would immediately understand and realise that it is meant to be literal in its meaning as Bill and Ted are musicians and music is what they face every day."

Reading comments from here even those who do not know Bill and Ted would have deduce that they are musicians especially if reviews describe them as such.

Despite how she began her review Roach herself describe them as musicians.

I suggested in a fan group that Bill and Ted use the phone booth to save Samantha Reed Smith the eighties child peace activist and the mod said "Time travel doesn't work that way in the Bill and Ted universe. Try Doc Brown and Marty McFly".

He's correct. You can't change the past. If it happened, it always happened.

I suggested in a fan group that Bill and Ted use the phone booth to save Samantha Reed Smith the eighties child peace activist and the mod said "Time travel doesn't work that way in the Bill and Ted universe. Try Doc Brown and Marty McFly".

That's not going to happen in either franchise.

it was more of a suggestion for a fan fiction.

Did anyone see
Bill & Ted Face the Music ? Was it good ?