Deep Impact

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: Movies: Science Fiction/Fantasy: Deep Impact
By Andreas Schindel on Thursday, April 12, 2001 - 7:01 am:

Some nits for "Deep Impact"

After the first attempt of the Messiah failed, all nuclear missiles are sent to the two parts of the comet. I wonder why they do NOTHING to the comets. (They should at least bomb them into a few more fragments.) After this "effect" I wonder why only FOUR bombs smash the bigger comet into peaces not bigger than a suitcase.

Why don't they use H-Bombs to smash the comet?

What, the Messiah doesn't have enough fuel to do two landing operations on the comet??

The impact is shown in a GREAT sequence! But I wonder... I suggest, that the impact releases the energy of 1000 or more nukes, but where is the (hot!?!) shockwave? I see only some wind.

A major impact causes an earthquake with a magnitude somewhere between 10 and 12, even if the comet hits the ocean. I don't think, that the Statue of Liberty would surwive it.

I suggest that the (destroyed) bigger comet will cause some sort of "nuclear winter". It brings a great amount of dust into the upper atmosphere!


By Mark Bowman on Tuesday, December 25, 2001 - 7:36 pm:

I just got this movie oin video yesterday, and I have to
say that it was very well done, and the acting was wonderful.
While this movie isn't as heavy on the action as Armegeddon was,
it seemed far more realistic, and wasn't grossly overhyped Kudos
to the producers!


I do have a couple nits:

(SPOILER ALERT! SCROLL TO SEE NITS)


When Leo Beiderman came back for the motor bike, how come a dog
was left in the house trapped(?) behind a pile of furniture? This seemed
very cruel.

When the wave rushes down the highway, you can see cars flipping as
it barrels over them. Most of cars that were flipping were painted white
and appeared to the same design (A very minor nit, or course, but
worth mentioning :)

Why weren't the astronauts given the codes for all of the nukes to begin with,
knowing that the ship was very likely going to take heavy damage, and
radio contact could be lost completely? Infact, the crew wasn't able to raise
Huston to get the codes untill shortly before they flew into the comet.


By Anonymous on Tuesday, December 25, 2001 - 7:43 pm:

>When Leo Beiderman came back for the motor bike, how come a dog
>was left in the house trapped(?) behind a pile of furniture? This
>seemed very cruel.


Maybe they couldn't take him with them, and he he wouldn't
have had a chance anyway? Could a dog like that
get scared and start mauling people?


By ScottN on Tuesday, December 25, 2001 - 10:42 pm:

People running up the hill to avoid the wave. The wave would most likely be travelling at several hundred miles per hour. If it is that close, it's very unlikely that people would be able to outrun it.

Note: The "World's fastest man" runs at approximately 10 m/s, which is 36000 m/hour, or 36 km/h (or just over 22 mph). And that's over a sprint.


By LUIGI NOVI on Wednesday, December 26, 2001 - 5:18 am:

ScottN: The wave would most likely be travelling at several hundred miles per hour.

Luigi Novi: Yeah, I recall that the President (Morgan Freeman) stated in his speech to the country that it would be travelling faster than the speed of sound.


By Adam Bomb on Sunday, December 30, 2001 - 3:59 am:

When the World Trade Center collapsed and downtown Manhattan was blocked off for weeks, much was made of people looking for the abandoned pets of the people killed and displaced in this horrible disaster.
When I saw this in theaters in May, 1998, I had no idea who Laura Innes was, as I was then unfamiliar with "E.R." and her character in that series. This pic's director, Mimi Leder, is a former "E.R." producer. Also, check out former "Hill Street Blues" star Bruce Weitz.
I find it upsetting that a young man's wife (even though she was very young, like the Leelee Sobieski character) would choose her family over her husband. Also, Maximillian Schell's wife left him to go back to her mother.
I had also heard that the story had been around since the big wave of disaster pics in the '70's.


By LUIGI NOVI on Sunday, December 30, 2001 - 10:59 am:

I find it upsetting that a young man's wife (even though she was very young, like the Leelee Sobieski character) would choose her family over her husband.
Luigi Novi: Which character were you referring to, Adam?


By Adam Bomb on Wednesday, January 30, 2002 - 10:34 am:

I worded my post very poorly. I believe that when two people marry, they should stay by each other's side. The Leelee Sobieski character chose to stay with her family, rather than her husband, during the crisis.
Maybe Leelee (who looks more like Helen Hunt as she gets older) is the child of Data's fling with Tasha Yar.


By Craig Rohloff on Wednesday, January 30, 2002 - 3:36 pm:

Speaking of pets, a couple winters ago a train made up of several propane-filled tank cars derailed and caught fire in a small Wisconsin town, threatening that town with destruction if they exploded. The townspeople were evacuated, but unaware of the extent of the damage (nor the potential for more), left their pets at home. After several days, due to overwhelming public concern, the National Guard assisted some of the townspeople in an operation that came to be known as "Operation Pet Rescue." Armored personnel carriers and troops were utilized to rush small groups of citizens to their homes to evac the stranded pets.
The fires were finally brought under control (and hazmat teams gave the all-clear), by which time the people had been displaced for a few weeks. So if you ever need to evacuate (due to meteors, train derailments or whatever), take your pets with you...you don't know when you might be able to come back for them.

I see I'm not the only person who thinks Leelee Sobieski looks like a young Helen Hunt...I wonder if she gets tired of people making that comparison.


By Craig Rohloff on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 7:45 am:

I realize that there were time constraints, and perhaps there is such a thing as showing too much destruction in a disaster film (yeah, right!), but couldn't they have shown a couple cities on the other side of the Atlantic getting inundated, at least for a few seconds? Just to show that this was a GLOBAL calamity, not just an American one.


By Adam Bomb on Friday, May 10, 2002 - 7:17 am:

"Armageddon" covered that one, Craig.
Director Mimi Leder has come a long way - in the mid '80's, she was a script (not SCPIPT, John Lang - the Hill got it right) supervisor on "Hill Street Blues."


By Douglas Nicol on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 3:12 pm:

I preferred Armaggedon, I just couldn't feel anything for the characters in this film.

However, I will reserve judgement and try it again. Sometimes a film or book improves with a second viewing and is dependant on the mood you are in at the time.


By tim gueguen on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 12:38 am:

Saw this one last night and a couple of nits are obvious.

Did anyone else find themselves rolling their eyes at the scene at the deep shelter when they're bring elephants, monkeys, and flamingos in? To be blunt this would not happen in a real world situation. The only creatures that would go in such a shelter would be those that could be eaten or would be necessary for restarting the growth cycle of plants afterwards given the limited space and limited supply of fodder that would be involved. And you couldn't cater to the food needs of a wide array of animals, such as(to use the example from the film) the kinds of insects and so forth a flamingo eats.

Apparently the US government in the movie is run by idiots, and the general public ain't too hot in the brains department either. They have weeks of warning, yet the coastal cities aren't evacuated, and seemingly no one thinks to leave them. Instead everyone sits around literally until the last minute, hence ensuring lots of folks get killed. Obviously in such a scenario lots of folks wouldn't leave their homes, but one would think that the majority, given the chance, would. One can only wonder what will happen to Morgan Freeman's president character when folks finally get it thru their thick skulls that if some attempt had been made to evacuate the coast more people would have made it.

On the other hand the film does deserve credit for actually having Tea Leoni's character survive.


By tim gueguen on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 12:45 am:

Oops, that should be "for actually having Tea Leoni's character not survive."


By LUIGI NOVI on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 3:51 am:

I never understood this movie's title. There's nothing profoundly philosophical about the impact the comet makes when it hits.


By EVE 6 and 7 8th on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 2:28 pm:

I think it was meant for the depth of the impact craer the comet makes when it hits. As in deep big hole in the ground.


By LUIGI NOVI on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 2:47 am:

Um....I was joking, Eve.


By NGen on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 12:08 pm:

I really used to enjoy rewatching this film. Since 9/11, the scenes of New York's destruction have a very unsettling feel to them. In particular, the scenes of the tidal wave hitting the World Trade Center. Ironically, the Towers are depicted as the one thing that survives the tidal wave.
Wasn't the wave supposed to be going hundreds of miles per hour? At that speed, I don't think the Twin Towers or the Capital would be left standing.


By CR on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 6:35 pm:

If I recall correctly, in this film, one of the twin towers was knocked askew by the wave (seen as the waters pass further inland).


By MarkN (Markn) on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 2:30 am:

Also, check out former "Hill Street Blues" star Bruce Weitz.

I didn't know till listening to Mimi Leder's audio commentary last week that Bruce was that man sitting on a bench in the town square (or wherever) who seems unaware of people running around him and then of course he gets swept away by the waves pouring through the city. I always just thought that that was an old man (whether CGI or real), not Weitz himself, whose character, Stuart Caley, I'd always assumed was somehow able to get outta town and lived.

I also learned from Mimi's commentary that the little girl who played Jamie Cromwell's daughter, Holly, was Mimi's very own daughter, Hannah, who was 10 at the time.


By MarkN on Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 3:43 am:

I forgot to mention that also that in her audio commentary Leder said something about how creepy it was to watch the destruction of New York again in this film after the events of 9-11.


By Adam Bomb on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 11:33 am:

This movie is playing on the Showtime channels this month, and "On-Demand" as well.
Jennnie's Saab takes a nice whack on the back bumper from the Secret Service (or FBI) car, yet remains undamaged.


By Don F (TNG Moderator) (Dferguson) on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 10:46 am:

During the end of the Movie the new station is evacuating and they have prepared a helicopter, they are escorting Jenny Lerner on board and she suddenly runs over and snatches up Beth's baby and runs for the helicopter, all the while Beth chases her in a fit to get her daughter back, we learn at the end this is a ploy because Jenny wanted Beth and her Daughter to both get on the helicopter and fly to safety. From the beginning this felt wrong to me, If I thought the end was coming and there was no way for me to escape I certainly wouldn't want to doom my child to the same fate. In Beth's situation I think I would have watched her take my daughter and been overwhelmed with gratitude that this woman who's careen I had been stepping on was saving my daughter for me.


By Kyle (BSG mod) (Kpowderly) on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 9:54 am:

This movie is the closest I've seen to a real treatment of "what if a celestial body threatened to hit?" (I"m still waiting for "Lucifer's Hammer" to be made into a miniseries!)

My biggest nit has to to with the Biedermans and their neighbors trying to escape Virginia Beach. As the small piece strikes the Atlantic, we see the Hotchners on the highway and apparently near a sign that reads "Virginia Beach 6 mi." Leo and Sarah hadn't left that long ago, so there's no way they could have gotten from the Newport News area to the Appalachian Mountains (the only geography high enough that a tsunami a 1/2 mile tall wouldn't roll over) in the time given.

And don't get me started on how that highway bore no passing resemblance to anything, anywhere near Va. Beach, Newport News, Williamsburg, Richmond or Charlottesville.


By Callie (Csullivan) on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 1:49 am:

I"m still waiting for "Lucifer's Hammer" to be made into a miniseries!

Ooh, add me to that list! One of the best 'end of the world' books I've ever read.


By ScottN (Scottn) on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 9:20 am:

Me three.


By Adam Bomb (Abomb) on Wednesday, June 16, 2010 - 10:16 am:

I bought the DVD at Wal-Mart last week. Kind of impulsively; it was only five bucks, so what the heck? The DVD has only a plain battleship gray label, just like all recent Paramount DVD releases. Including 2009's Star Trek. Which cost me a lot more than five bucks.


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I also learned from Mimi's commentary that the little girl who played Jamie Cromwell's daughter, Holly, was Mimi's very own daughter, Hannah, who was 10 at the time.



And, the actor who plays Chuck Hochtner, Gary Werntz, is her husband. Also, in her commentary, she stated that when she was first offered the director's job, she thought she was being offered a porn movie, due to the title. I don't know if she was serious or not.


By Brian FitzGerald (Brifitz1980) on Wednesday, June 16, 2010 - 9:02 pm:

Adam Bomb: I find it upsetting that a young man's wife (even though she was very young, like the Leelee Sobieski character) would choose her family over her husband.

(10 years later)

Adam I do see your point. But don't forget that their marriage was just an "on paper" thing that they did so that she and her family could join his family in the shelter.

The movie had it's moments but I felt that much of Tea Leonie's subplot about her family was dumb. The world's going to end so she decides that the best thing to do is to try and get her Dad to leave his new wife and get back with her mother. She's an adult professional woman & her plot seems more in tune with an "After School Special."


By Adam Bomb (Abomb) on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 9:53 am:


quote:

But don't forget that their marriage was just an "on paper" thing that they did so that she and her family could join his family in the shelter.



That was a plot point I had forgotten about when I wrote that. It came back to me when I watched my DVD. Also, I was going through my divorce when I wrote it, and my then-wife was the same way - always putting her and her family's needs ahead of our marriage. I posted that partly out of my frustration with my marriage at the time.

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I felt that much of Tea Leoni's subplot about her family was dumb. The world's going to end so she decides that the best thing to do is to try and get her Dad to leave his new wife and get back with her mother.



My girlfriend positively can't stand Tea Leoni, particularly her performance in this film. By the way, if you recall this plot point (Spoiler-highlight to read) Jennie's dad's new wife eventually leaves him to go back to her mother. By that time, Jennie's mom had committed suicide.


By Adam Bomb (Abomb) on Friday, September 05, 2014 - 8:16 am:


quote:

When Leo Beiderman came back for the motor bike, how come a dog was left in the house trapped(?) behind a pile of furniture? This seemed very cruel.



The fact that the bike was still in the Hochtner's garage is to me a major plot hole. When Leo returns to his old neighborhood to look for Sarah, every house has been trashed and looted. Yet, Hochtner's bike is still there, chained and untouched. In the panic that was going on, someone would have gotten bolt cutters and ripped off the bike long before Leo returned. Of course, we then wouldn't have had the cool shot of Leo peeling out on the bike (which Elijah Wood had to learn to do for the movie, BTW).
The dog was (IIRC) a Doberman. Maybe they could have used William Shatner to calm it down.


By Adam Bomb (Abomb) on Saturday, July 22, 2017 - 9:23 pm:

The Agony Booth has posted a "Movie Duel", comparing this with Armageddon, here.


By Francois Lacombe (Franc0is) on Sunday, July 23, 2017 - 4:50 am:

Armageddon isn’t just dumb, it’s fractally dumb: every scene is exactly as dumb as the entire movie.

I have never seen a better one sentence summary of a movie.


By Jeff Winters (Jeff1980) on Tuesday, February 09, 2021 - 5:57 am:

Francois, why is the movie
Armageddon dumb compared to
Deep Impact, they both have Similar themes, and came out around the same time, I think Armageddon was more of a blockbuster, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armageddon_(1998_film)


By Francois Lacombe (Franc0is) on Tuesday, February 09, 2021 - 6:08 pm:

Armageddon is pure mindless action trash, bravado porn, idiotic storyline, non existent character development, dialogue (ahem!) heavily laces with profanity and laughable "science" that makes the Flat Earth theory sound like nobel prize material. Deep impact, though not perfect itself, is far more thoughtful, well scripted and respectful of what such an event would actually be like in reality. Comparing the two movies on the basis of their theme is like comparing Plan 9 From Outer Space with 1953 War of the Worlds because both deal with aliens invading Earth.


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