Demolition Man

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: Movies: Science Fiction/Fantasy: Demolition Man
By LUIGI NOVI on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 2:49 am:

During the altercation wheen Phoenix, in the future, is first confronted by policemen at the terminal, he jumps onto the policecar windshield, which breaks as if it’s unprotected glass. Windshields have a protective clear film lining the inside, which not only protects passengers during collisions, but makes the manner in which the windshield breaks in this scene impossible, and there is no evident reason why windshields of the future would no longer have this.

Toward the end of the film, as Phoenix is freeing the rest of the convicts in the cryoprison, he rejoices with glee when he notices one of the people on the list is Jeffrey Dahmer. Jeffrey Dahmer was bludgeoned to death in 1994, one year after this movie was released. In addition, he was never incarcerated in California. He was incarcerated in Wisconsin, where his crimes were committed.


By Joe King on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 1:52 pm:

Anyone know how to use the 3 shells?


By Butch Brookshier on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 5:21 pm:

Nit:At the beginning, Stallone's character, Spartan is convicted of murder because Phoenix (Snipes) lies and said the hostages were killed when Spartan supposedly caused the explosion. At this point Phoenix had already killed the hostages. Autopsies of the victims should have shown that their injuries from the explosion were inflicted after death. This would have supported Spartan's version of events and at least should have created reasonable doubt of his guilt.
Of course if he wasn't found guilty, there wouldn't be a movie for Stallone to star in. :)


By Chrs Diehl on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 11:19 pm:

I have one problem. I'm not sure if it's truly a nit, though. At one point, Spartan and Earle get into a fight over what Phoenix's first move will be now that he's thawed. Earle's theory, backed by his computers, is he will start a drug lab and a new criminal organization. For some reason, Spartan is convinced he'll get a gun and raise hell. Why? Because Spartan's the hero, so he has to be right. However, based on the description of Phoenix's crime career given by Zach to Lelina, he did start an organization before. Therefore, Earle is probably making more sense. Why would he not do it again? Why would he automatically start shooting people? He's a psycho, to be sure, but not an idiot. Wouldn't he prefer to get rich getting the innocent people of S.A. hooked on crack again, then get some guns and bully them?


By Brian Fitzgerald on Saturday, March 01, 2003 - 11:17 pm:

Spartan didn't say that he'd start raising hell, just that he was going for a gun. Starting a crime organization takes time and is dangerous work. That's why Spartan knew that a gun was the first thing phoenix was going to need.


By Spanders bender on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 9:10 pm:

And by the time Croctaw got offed he had defrosted a few and got the beginings of a small gang or orgnization going on there.


By MythicFox on Monday, May 26, 2003 - 2:37 am:

During the altercation wheen Phoenix, in the future, is first confronted by policemen at the terminal, he jumps onto the policecar windshield, which breaks as if it’s unprotected glass. Windshields have a protective clear film lining the inside, which not only protects passengers during collisions, but makes the manner in which the windshield breaks in this scene impossible, and there is no evident reason why windshields of the future would no longer have this.

We're talking about a future where no deaths by unnatural causes have happened in, what was it? 16 years? Where the biggest crimes that actually happen above-ground are apparently staying out late, telling dirty jokes, and automated graffiti?

The cops of the future don't even get any sort of self-defense classes (you'd think they'd at least watch Tae Bo tapes for exercise), despite the presence of a genuine criminal element somewhere in the city (the Scraps). It's not that far of a stretch to say that the windshields might be unprotected glass, when you think about it.

But on another note... am I the only one who thinks they couldn't have cast Denis Leary more appropriately if they'd tried? ;-)


By LUIGI NOVI on Monday, May 26, 2003 - 8:29 am:

It's not a good idea, Mythic. Car accidents should still theorectically happen, especially when a person is driving it, and even computers, like the ones that control the cars' self-drive mechanism, can fail, malfunction, or be affected by EMP's or something. Removing that film makes no sense whatsoever.


By MythicFox on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 3:08 am:

I still say that in any world where their most popular radio station is all old commercial jingles and the only restaurants are Taco Bell, "makes no sense whatsoever" is a completely different scale altogether.


By LUIGI NOVI on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 7:31 pm:

True. :)


By SaintSteven on Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 7:37 pm:

I may be mistaken, but in this movie, didn't Sandra Bullock mention that at one time, "President Schwarzeneggar"?
Couldn't happen. According to the U.S. Constitution, the President must be a natural-born citizen.


By Derf on Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 12:03 am:

SaintSteven,
If you'll go back and view the movie, Sandra Bullock says something like, "because of his popularity, the Constitution was amended by the something-er-other amendment to allow him to be elected." ... I think that Arnold (the would-be-Governor) is trying to make that "movie prophecy" come true!


By Joe King on Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 8:25 am:

How would he bring Jeffrey Dahrmer & Nigel Hawthorne back from the dead?


By tim gueguen on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 8:14 pm:

The "magnetic accelerator rifle" Phoenix grabs is actually a Heckler and Koch G11 assault rifle, or a plastic replica of one. The G11 was developed for the then West German Bundeswehr by HK in the late 80s, and fired a 4.7mm bullet. Instead of a normal metal cartridge casing it had the propellant wrapped around the bullet, allowing for a high rate of fire. The Bundeswehr intended to adopt the G11 as its new assault rifle, but the fall of the Berlin Wall and subsequent German reunification resulted in the program being cancelled with only somewhere around 1000 rifles being purchased.

As for the premise of the film the opening is set way too soon to when the film was made. If it had been set in say 2010 it would have been much more convincing.


By Duane Parsons on Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 6:54 am:

And now 'Arnold' is lobbying to change the Constitution to allow forgein born persons run for president of the USA.


By Darth Sarcasm on Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 11:27 am:

Arnold is lobbying no such thing... though there are people in *Congress* lobbying for it, and have for quite some time. They're just using Arnold's charisma to help them get it changed.


By Ccabe on Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 5:30 pm:

It was the 61st ammendment to the Constitution. At the rate we pass ammendments, we wouldn't ge to 61 untill about 2275.


By Duane Parsons on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 6:22 am:

I heard that 'Arnold' is going to run TV ads with other forgein born well-knowns saying the Constitution should be ammended. Unless Darth is pulling my ID badge chain.... :)


By inblackestnight on Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 8:45 am:

Nobody seemed to wonder why they had live ammunition in their museum. Perhaps it's for the same reasons that saftey glass is no longer used but these people seem to want to supress anything violent or dangerous so I doubt they would display real bullets for historical accuracy.

Despite that fact that there is no good reason to move Jeffrey Dahmer from WI, espicially since he is dead, I highly doubt that he could be of use to Phoenix. Plus, Phoenix said "I love that guy!" I'm sure that was just added for comedic value, and to show how nuts Phoenix is, but most people regard serial killers the same as child molesters, both in prison and regular society. They are both antisocials who don't work well with others and are just plain cowardly scum of the earth who preys on others for sexual release; unlike Phoenix who ran a criminal enterprise for money and respect.


By LUIGI NOVI (Lnovi) on Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 8:58 am:

The museum was designed by Charlton Heston.


By inblackestnight on Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 12:47 pm:

Well if Moses wants real bullets in a museum then by God he should get them.


By LUIGI NOVI (Lnovi) on Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 5:46 pm:

"Let my fully-automatic, uranium-depleted shells GO!"


By Lifeisalarkatwillowgrovepark (Zooz) on Saturday, January 19, 2008 - 2:24 pm:

Mellow greetings sir, what seems to be your boggle?


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Monday, September 20, 2021 - 5:33 am:

Although cut from the movie, John Spartan's now middle aged daughter is part of Friendly's resistance movement.

The novelization includes this.


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