One of three best documentaries I have ever seen, this moive is all about homoseuxality in Hollywood, from the Hayes Code, all the way up to Philadelphia and Thelma & Louise. I recomend it, and it's now available on DVD.

Thelma & Louise??!! Is there some director's cut somewhere where Sarandon and David get it on, or something?


And if so, where can I get it???

No but there was a subtext. Wtach the documentary, it makes perfect sense. BTW, I also would like to see such a Director's Cut. :-) Not that it needs one, it's a great movie as is.

This week, Cinemax ran a documentary claiming Hitler was a homosexual. The evidence seemed slim, but bible-thumpers will latch on to this as more 'evidence' of how evil homosexuals are.

I was disappointed by this doc. I thought they spent too much time showing old clips of movies with subtexts. I was like, OK I get it, now can I get someone to talk about some issues, rather than just watch this clip from Gentelmen Prefer Blonds.

A most unfortunate thing was done. This documentary was posted with no judgment or consideration of its contents. Most of the world considers the "homosexual" lifestyle to be sinful and a crime. Indeed, as Jerry Falwell noted: when Muslims looked at America what outraged them...homosexuality, feminists, and liberals. They were so morally outraged, some resorted to terrorist attacks on the U.S. Sodomites (I don't like to use the word "homosexual"; it's a way for liberal secularists to work the word "SEX" into polite conversation) refuse to accept any blame for bringing such wrath down on America. No, they do attack moral religious people and the President though. The same-sex marraige issue and ordaining "gay" clergy were so troubling that the Southern Baptists had to break their interational ties (many felt a stand must be taken). For evil to suceed requires only that good men do nothing.

First of all, let me say that God loves everyone. I don't agree with Rev Phelps that "God hates fags". God loves the sinner, but hates the sin...and sodomy is a sin. Many sodomites are atheists and won't listen to religious arguments. For them, let me quote the distinguished Rev Lou Sheldon of the Traditional Values Coalition. He stresses that sodomy is unhealthy from a medical point of view. He says it is unhealthy because of the sexual involvement with f-eces (many also ingest it even though it is laden with E Coili bacteria). Sodomites also get AIDS through anal intercourse. It's sad to see people die becuase they are practicing a a "lifestyle" which is dangerous. Many impressionable young people are brainwashed by the aggressive recruiting of sodomite activists. One tragic case comes to mind. Two NAMBLA members raped and murdered a ten year old boy. The two sodomite murderers were defended by the ACLU. Thankfully, Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly brought this to our attention. The liberal media would let it slide. The liberal media is constantly trying to insidiously allow more liberal outrages to slide by.

Some liberals try to claim people are born "that way". They are not. Our religious newsletters have kept us informed of the relevant facts (more important than ever, now, since sodomite activists are attempting to change marriage laws).
People forget that Satan is always trying to decieve people. We must be ever vigilant.

Some liberal secularists claim that sodomites are "normal" and cite the spurious decision by the American Psychiatric Assosiation in the seventies to declare that it's "normal". That was a totally political decision. The APA is a liberal activist organization. Their "decision" was an attempt by some liberal mama's boys psychiatrists to legitimize their own behavior. It was a totally self-serving decision. Rev Lou Sheldon relies on medical facts and not unprovable theories.

The saddest part comes when one must discuss the truth. The Celluloid Closet is a work of propaganda by the leftist Hollywood establishment (the same one that hates George Bush and praises leftist hater Michael Moore). If one were to make an honest documentary one would have to film a cemetary. The AIDS plague has consumed countless sodomites' lives. Even with medicine today, many will still die. Almost every sensible person has noted the sad irony of the sodomites endlessly hyping the rare cases of homophobic violence such as Mathew Shepard. The most viscious killer of sodomites is other sodomites. Who could deny a million AIDS deathes. Ride a bus in the city, you'll see ads for domestic violence in gay couples. Sodomite couples loath themselves and are visciously attacking each other. I hate to see anyone suffer. It all could be avoided though. If only they would have married a nice girl. The love of a good woman has cured many.

Some will say, what about the lesbians? Last month, downtown I saw an "alternative lifestyle" couple of the lesbian variety. They were sitting on a bench at the shopping center. The sad creatures were all tatooed and pierced. They openly sneered at passing heterosexual woman (for daring to be pretty and attractive to men). It was obvious there was no love between them. They only had a desire to provoke and make a spectacle of themselves with their handholding and kissing. One day, they will grow up and want to have children. They'll need a man then. Children deserve both a mother and a father.

Several organizations are doing wonderful work to rescue lost sodomite souls. The Exodus Ministries has done superb work at heping sodomites return to their real heterosexual selves. We should all praise their work.

God bless you all.

You've pointed out many true facts. It's good to know there is such kind people who care about their fellow man.

A most unfortunate thing was done. This documentary was posted with no judgment or consideration of its contents. Most of the world considers the "homosexual" lifestyle to be sinful and a crime. Indeed, as Jerry Falwell noted: when Muslims looked at America what outraged them...homosexuality, feminists, and liberals.

Well if you don't like it in this courty than move to Iran or Saudi Arabia. Over there women must be covered from head to toe, homosexuality is a stoning offence, and liberals aren't alowed to have a platform to speak from.

Caring/Mike, your credibility is shot when you agree with yourself.

I agree with myself all the time!

I suspect that what JD has done is check the IP of "Caring" and "Mike", and found that they are one and the same.

"I like to watch." - Chauncy Gardner

I guessed that too; I just like being snarky. Although to be fair, people do share computers.

True. MJ and Morgan used to share the same computer, IIRC.

"I like to watch." - Chauncy Gardner

OK... this tangent belongs somewhere else... either PM or RM (which I don't visit)... however, there are some "facts" I would like to address.

WARNING: SOME OF THE DISCUSSION THAT FOLLOWS IS OF AN ADULT NATURE


(I don't like to use the word "homosexual"; it's a way for liberal secularists to work the word "SEX" into polite conversation) - Caring

I see... so sodomite doesn't introduce sex into "polite conversation"? Not to mention that sodomite isn't an accurate term for all homosexuals, since not all engage in that activity... plus, sodomy isn't limited to the homosexual community. There are plenty of straight folk who do it, too (you know who you are ) So homosexual is a more accurate term... to heck with your supposed values.


They were so morally outraged, some resorted to terrorist attacks on the U.S. Sodomites refuse to accept any blame for bringing such wrath down on America. - Caring

Funny... I don't recall the terrorists using the word "sodomite" at all in their propaganda. I usually hear "infidels" (which mostly means Jews and Christians).


God loves the sinner, but hates the sin...and sodomy is a sin. - "Caring"

So what about people who don't engage in sodomy?


For them, let me quote the distinguished Rev Lou Sheldon of the Traditional Values Coalition. He stresses that sodomy is unhealthy from a medical point of view. He says it is unhealthy because of the sexual involvement with f-eces (many also ingest it even though it is laden with E Coili bacteria). - "Caring"

What does ingestion of fecal matter have to do with sodomy? Methinks the Reverend Sheldon needs to consult a dictionary and learn the difference between sodomy and coprophagia. The latter has nothing to do with homosexuality (after all, plenty of straight people do it, too). In fact, coprophagia is normally linked with obsessive/compulsive disorders.


Many sodomites are atheists and won't listen to religious arguments. - "Caring"

And many are Christian... and many are Jewish... and many are Muslim... and many are straight. There is just as much variety among "sodomites" and homosexuals as there are in other social groups.


Sodomites also get AIDS through anal intercourse. - "Caring"

Uh... no.

Engaging in unprotected anal intercourse is one way of contracting the HIV virus, which is different from developing AIDS. But so is traditional intercourse (aka "straight sex"), sharing needles, and drinking breast milk from an HIV+ mother. In fact, the highest incidence of HIV in the US is in the Latin American straight community... mostly due to statements like yours that homosexuality is the cause of it, coupled with religious values that forbid the use of contraceptives.

HIV is transmitted via body fluids (namely, blood, semen, vaginal fluids, and breast milk). An exchange of any of these body fluids puts a person at risk for contracting the virus. And exposure doesn't mean you will automatically contract it. Certain activities simply put you at higher risk for contracting the virus than others. And certainly, unprotected anal intercourse puts a person (particularly the receiver) at greater risk than, say, oral intercourse, but it's no more risk than traditional intercourse.

The key to solving the HIV and AIDS dilemma is to stop people from using the epidemic to further their agendas and start providing relevant and truthful information.


It's sad to see people die becuase they are practicing a a "lifestyle" which is dangerous. - "Caring"

It's even sadder to see people preach ignorance under the guise of knowledge and goodness.


Two NAMBLA members raped and murdered a ten year old boy. The two sodomite murderers were defended by the ACLU. - "Caring"

And here's where your use of "sodomite" instead of "homosexual" starts to blur things. If you're using "sodomite" as a synonym or euphemism for "homosexual," I'd like to remind you that pedophilia has nothing to do with homosexuaity (except that both are viewed as sexual deviances by varying degrees). Pedophilia, like rape, has more to do with sexual dominance and control. In fact, most pedophiles (including those who rape boys) are straight, not gay. The accused priests in the Catholic Church, for instance, all identified as straight, not gay.


Our religious newsletters have kept us informed of the relevant facts (more important than ever, now, since sodomite activists are attempting to change marriage laws). - "Caring"

Well, if your post is an example of the "facts" your newsletters provide, than no thank you.


People forget that Satan is always trying to decieve people. We must be ever vigilant. - "Caring"

Funny you should say that.


God bless you all. - "Caring"

Hypocrisy is also a sin in God's eyes... not to mention doing it in His name.

Would you like my opinion?

Some will say, what about the lesbians? Caring

And I would still ask that, seeing as the example you provide covers only the slightest percentage of the lesbian community as a whole. I happen to know quite a few lesbians, and wouldn't you know it... none of them is like "sad creatures" (why were they sad? Had they dropped their ice cream?) you described.

And I'm not even going to touch that "They'll need a father then bull#*&@$^.

The lesbians I know and have known do not look the way "Caring" describes them. Nor do they appear sad - except for the reason many of us are sad: not being able to find someone to love and care for.

Indeed, as Jerry Falwell noted: when Muslims looked at America what outraged them...homosexuality, feminists, and liberals. They were so morally outraged, some resorted to terrorist attacks on the U.S.

Sodomites...refuse to accept any blame for bringing such wrath down on America.

What does this mean, that we should refrain from behavior that Muslims wouldn't like so they don't attack us? If you follow that reasoning, then Falwell and all other Christians should convert to Islam.

Sodomite couples loath themselves and are visciously attacking each other. I hate to see anyone suffer. It all could be avoided though. If only they would have married a nice girl.

Because a "nice" homosexual is nonexistent, I suppose.

One day, they will grow up and want to have children. They'll need a man then.

Another generalization. Not even all heterosexuals want children.

People forget that Satan is always trying to decieve people.

If Satan deceives people, I'm sure this post illustrates his methods -- oversimplification, generalization and demonization of those of whom you disapprove.

Sodomite couples loath themselves and are visciously attacking each other.

So does that mean that men loath women are are visciously attacking female sexual partners.

I realize this is a bit late for my putting in my two cents, But, I have learned in my life not to judge anyone other than my self and my own actions. To pass judgement upon another is for the Creator of All Things and not mortals.

Also I love this movie and Happly Hetro.