The Halloween Movies

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: Movies: Thrillers/Horrors: The Halloween Movies
By SaintSteven on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 8:35 pm:

Okay, I love the original Halloween. It was one of my favorite horror movies of all time. When I was 11, I snuck in with a friend of mine, and we walked out so freaked out. This was John Carpenter's masterpiece.
I have to admit, I loved the first one, the second one was okay, #3 sucked donkeys, 4 & 5 were actually okay, but came out at a bad time. 6 was the worst since 3, H20 was okay for a remembrance, and Halloween Resurrection (which I saw the other night) wasn't bad. Overall, the Michael Meyers character is far superior to Jason Voorhes. For Michael, there is someone in there somewhere. Some of the best scenes are the ones when you can almost reach him. Also, his nemises, Laurie Strode and Dr. Sam Loomis are almost as indestructible as he is.
However, the movies make plenty of mistakes.
Halloween 1 - notice the license plates ... which are California plates as opposed to Indiana plates. Also, Donald Pleasance has been standing by the Meyers'house all night, then suddenly notices the car. Doesn't that seem a little dense. Finally, in the credits for the cast, it lists Michael - Age 6, Michael, Age 23 - well that's not good math. The opening scene was in 1963 and finishes in 1978 - fifteen years later. That would make Michael 21.
Halloween 2. How can anyone just "walk" through a glass door? It would have been more realistic to have him break it with his arms or something like that.
Halloween 3 - I saw it once and that was enough. I don't remember much about it except that it sucked. What were they thinking?
Halloween 4 - like the doctor said, Michael Meyers could not have walked out because of atrophy. Moreover, how was Michael Meyers able to see? Jammie Lee Curtis shot both eyes out at nearly point blank range in #2. Also, why does the Haddonfield Costume store still sell the Michael Meyer's mask? Probably not a good idea in a small town.
Halloween 5 - now we notice little marks on the back of Michael Meyers' hands. First, how come we don't notice them before? Second, he was burned heavily by the blast in #2. That probably would have taken the mark off. Also, who's this guy with the gun? And Dr. Loomis still has his medical license? Give me a break.
Halloween 6 - the person who had the gun is not revealed. Also, why do these people want to keep Michael Meyers alive? Moreover, what was the purpose of these experiments? None of this stuff is ever revealed.
H20 - for the record, they pretended like 3, 4, 5 & 6 were never made. However, the same argument goes: how can he see? His eyes were shot out. Also, what did he do for the last 20 years? A famous serial killer, wanted in Indiana?
Halloween Resurrection: the little crazy guy who sees Michael says, "Michael Meyers (gives birthdate, first killing), killed three teenagers on Halloween night in 1978. Also killed two paramedics and three nurses."
Wrong! Only one paramedic was killed. Moreover, he also killed another teeenager as she was talking on the phone (#2) a truck driver (#1) a physician (#2) and a security guard (#2).
Overall, the sequels keep trying to explain things. I think that is a mistake. It's good to leave some of it up to the audience. Let us wonder what would trigger a child to act like that? Our imginations frighten us more. Like Donald Pleasance said in #2 "We are all afraid of the dark inside ourselves."
Well, fellow nit-pickers, let me know of any other mistakes fellow nit-pickers.


By That Monster Guy on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 11:37 pm:

Yeah, for Michel! Here's my take:

Halloween: This is a classic. One of those great horror movies. Scared the sh** outta' me frist time I saw it. (I was 12) And if I watch it in the dark it still does. 4/5

Halloween II: A solid sequal. The idea losts some value a second time around. (But it always does) Still Michel second outing ain't bad. 2.5/5

Halloween III Seasion Of The Witch: Okay, I know all the hard core fans hate it, I can understand, seeing as it takes a step out of the main plot, but as it's own movie, it's not that bad. 2/5

Halloween 4 Return Of Michel Myers: I don't get it. Fans say that this is one of the best sequals. But I can't stand this one. For one, the acting is awful. I just don't get it. 1/5

Halloween 5 Revenge Of Michel Myers: It's not like he's really taking revenge on anyone, it's really just an excuse for 90 minutes of Michel hacking up teenagers. Mindless Fluff. 2.5/5 (Does anybody notice that Loomis seems just as indestrutable as Michel?)

Halloween 666 The Origin Of Michel Myers: The origal cut of number 6, has a different score and there are alot of minor diffricines. The whole ride is still pteery confusing though. 2/5

Halloween 6 Curse Of Michel Myers: This makes even less sense then the origal cut. The really confusing plot even makes the gore less enjoyable. Ugh. 1.5/5

Halloween H20: A good way to rebuild the seris. Plus, it's nice to see Jamie Lee back. Not bad. 3/5

Halloween Resurrection: Hmm... That kinda' ••••. The realTV angle was a nice try, but the whole thing kinda' fell felt on it's face. 1.5/5

Sugestions for future sequals? Hmm... How about a construction team has to tear down the Myers house, and Michel wakes up and have some fun. Then goes out looking for Jamie's baby. (Which as far as I can tell is his only family now.)


By SaintSteven on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 9:34 pm:

I let my ten-year-old son watch the original Halloween tonight. It scared him pretty well.
While watching it, I noticed a mistake I never noticed before. When Jamie Lee Curtis is trapped while Michael Myers punches through the door, watch the glass pane she punches through. It's perfectly set when she gets the door fully open.


By Adam Bomb on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 12:35 pm:

Sugestions for future sequels?....
None! No More! Ever!


By Benn on Monday, October 18, 2004 - 4:39 am:

Halloween

Halloween 1 - notice the license plates ... which are California plates as opposed to Indiana plates. - SaintSteven

Illinois plates, you mean.

When young Michael puts the clown mask on, he doesn’t look like he slipped it over his head. Instead, it looks as if he just puts it on his face. How’s it going to stay on that way?

When Michael breaks the station wagon window the nurse is by, the glass shatters like raw glass, not the way tempered glass or safety would. (Tempered glass will shatter into tiny pieces. Safety glass into a spider web-like pattern.

Michael’s been in a mental institution for 15 years, since he was a little boy. How does he know how to drive a car? (This is off-handed dealt with in the movie. Well, it’s mentioned anyway.)

Gee, here it is, October 31st in Haddonfield, Illinois and even though there are brown, red and gold leaves on the ground, the leaves on all of the trees are green.

When Sam Loomis is talking on the pay phone along the side of the road, some hills can be seen. I doubt it. Illinois is a pretty, flat boring country.

Loomis finds the Rabbit in Red matchbook near the Phelps Garage truck, but despite what he knows about Michael, doesn’t bother looking for any possible dead bodies.

I’ve gotta mention this. But the song playing while Annie and Laurie are riding in the red car is Blue Öyster Cult’s “(Don’t Fear) The Reaper”.

Do Annie and Laurie really think that just putting the joint out of sight would keep Ann’s Dad from knowing they were smoking pot? I guarantee you the inside of that car will have a ganja smell wafting out of it. Unless the sheriff's a complete moron, he should notice the smell.

The sheriff’s name is Lee Brackett, a reference to science fiction writer Leigh Brackett. The name Sam Loomis is a reference to Alfred Hitchcock’s Psycho. It was the name of Marion Crane’s lover.

A bit of well-known trivia, but I’ll mention it here anyway: The mask that Michael Myers wears as an adult was the cheapest mask the creators of the film could find - a William Shatner mask.

The movie Tommy and Laurie are watching is The Thing from Another World. John Carpenter would later remake this film as simply The Thing.

One of the comic books Tommy owns is Godzilla #12, published by Marvel Comics.

Annie’s not very observant. When she goes to her car the first time to pick up Paul, the car door won’t open, so she has to go get her keys. Then, after getting her keys, the door, which she did not unlock, opens right up. (Yes, I know this is suppose to be the point, to let us know that Michael’s in the car, but still…)

You know, considering how long Michael must have had that station wagon parked where it was, it’s amazing that Loomis didn’t notice it earlier in the film.

The jack o’lantern on the front porch of Annie’s house seems to be a different one when Laurie enters the house than when Bob and Linda entered it.

With the possible exception of the Phelps truck driver (we never see his death), Laurie is the only one Michael stabs first. The other three victims, Bob, Linda and Annie were strangled first.

Only twice in the film does Michael appear without a mask on. The first time is just after he kills his sister Judith. The second time is just before Loomis shoots him. Anytime Michael is wearing the mask he is referred to in the script as “The Shape”.

“You can’t kill the Bogeyman.”


By Benn on Thursday, October 21, 2004 - 3:04 pm:

Some more nits for the first Halloween flick:

The POV shots of Michael at 6 really seem to be too high off the ground for how short Michael is.

When Michael smashes the window of the station wagon, look for a wrench in his hand.

As Laurie and Annie are walking down the sidewalk, Laurie sees the Shape by some hedges. Annie runs ahead to look to see who's there. Seeing no one, she turns and teases Laurie that it's someone who wants to meet her. Look carefully on the left side of the screen and you can see some smoke from director John Carpenter's cigarette drift into the scene.

After Annie leaves Laurie, Laurie continues to walk home. The streets are dry. However, when she gets home, the ground is wet.

Annie is supposed to pick Laurie up at six-thirty in the evening. When Annie arrives, it's still pretty much broad daylight outside - not dark enough for 6:30 for an Illinois October evening.

Initially, as Laurie gets into Annie's car, the rearview mirror is straight. In a subsequent shot, the mirror tilts at an angle.

"You can't kill the Bogeyman."


By SaintSteven on Thursday, December 23, 2004 - 9:20 pm:

Benn,
The POV shot of Michael at age 6 that really bugged me was when you could see his arm with the knife cutting in front of his body after he looks to the right. That means he would not be able to see where his sister is and would be throwing his arm blindly and without much strength behind the blows.

"We are all afraid of the dark inside ourselves."


By mertz on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 2:23 pm:

I haven't seen all the Halloween or Scream movies, so I really couldn't tell you if this is true or not. However, if it is, there is a MAJOR nit.
In one of the Halloween movies, they are watching the movie Scream. But in one of the Scream movies, they are watching Halloween. So does that mean that the people from Scream watched the people from Halloween watch the people from Scream?
Aaahh!! It's confusing!!
Any thoughts? Am I wrong or right?


By Anonymous on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 11:03 pm:

You think that's bad, I think there was someone in Halloween 3 watching Halloween.


By Brian FitzGerald on Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 11:13 am:

You are correct. I've seen all of the Halloween and Scream movies. In Scream 1 they watch and talk about Halloween because it is one of the classics of the slasher genre. In Halloween H20 they show Scream 2 on a TV set. And you are correct that means that if their is a Scream 2 there must be a cream 1 and if it had been Scream 1 playing John would have seen his mother in the Halloween 1 scenes in the movie. It's kind of like when in The Practice they had a Boston Public crossover when the lawiers for the practice represented a fired teacher but than in a later episode a witness said she knew exactly what time something happened because she just finished watching Boston Public. BTW the scene in Halloween H20 was origionaly going to feature a movie with actor/commedian Mike Myers, as a bit of a pun on killer Michael Myers.


By Anonymous on Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 1:16 am:

And you are correct that means that if their is a Scream 2 there must be a cream 1

Yeah, but cream 1 is a completely different kind of movie, if ya know what I mean... ;)


By Brian FitzGerald on Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 2:46 pm:

oops. ***BLUSHES***


By mertz on Saturday, June 04, 2005 - 7:05 pm:

Question: When Jamie Lee Curtis runs out of the neighbors house screaming, why didn't any of the policemen hear her? I thought they were supposed to be stationed around the neighborhood, keeping watch. But none of them came to check on a girl shrieking her lungs out.
Also, does anyone know where I can find a good headshot of Tony Moran? I hate to admit this, but he's kinda cute without the mask.


By J on Sunday, June 05, 2005 - 12:45 am:

Didn't they think Michael was dead at that point? Or was that in part 2?


By Jared on Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 3:58 pm:

By Benn on Monday, October 18, 2004 - 05:39 am:

Annie’s not very observant. When she goes to her car the first time to pick up Paul, the car door won’t open, so she has to go get her keys. Then, after getting her keys, the door, which she did not unlock, opens right up. (Yes, I know this is suppose to be the point, to let us know that Michael’s in the car, but still…)

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Actually, Annie does briefly pause after she gets into the car with a "The door was locked a second ago" look on her face just before Michael kills her.


By SaintSteven on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 5:58 pm:

On a related note I have an unusual nit about Halloween.
The 1980's comedy, "Adventures in Babysitting" makes a mistake in regards to the Halloween movie.
When Chris (Elisabeth Shue) is watching the kids at the house, the movie, "Halloween" is on television, but soundtrak is from a western movie. Later, when Chris' friend calls her, a western movie is playing in the background, but the Halloween soundtrak is playing. Who screwed that up?


By Benn (Benn) on Wednesday, October 31, 2018 - 6:27 pm:

Halloween (1978)


While she's in school, Laurie looks out the window to see the Shape standing by the stolen station wagon. He has his Shatner mask on. It's a mask Michael stole from a hardware store in Haddonfield. Either Haddonfield has a high crime rate or the store owner took forever to report the break-in and theft or Sheriff Brackett really took his time going out to investigate the robbery. Because it isn't until around six-thirty in the afternoon that Brackett investigates the robbery. A robbery that took place at least four hours earlier in the day.

"It was the Boogeyman."


By Benn (Benn) on Wednesday, October 31, 2018 - 8:34 pm:

Halloween (1978)

So here it is, Halloween night and Laurie and Tommy are going to carve a jack o'lantern. Seeing as jack o'lanterns are Halloween decorations usually on display prior to and up to All Hallow's Eve, why are Laurie and Tommy carving a pumpkin? After seven o'clock at that.

The front door to the Doyle house is odd. Inside the house, the doorknob is on the right hand side. Outside the house, same door, the knob is also on the right hand side.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Monday, October 31, 2022 - 5:08 am:

Happy Halloween everyone :-)


In Halloween III: Season Of The Witch, the villain steals one of the stones from Stonehenge. Uh, how did he do that? That is not something you can just slip into your back pocket.

The motivation of the villain is the commercialization of Halloween (he's a Warlock). While Halloween has been commercialized, it's nowhere near as bad as Christmas, IMO.

Towards the end, it's revealed that the "Ellie" the hero rescued was an android. So what happened to the real Ellie? The movie never says.


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