The Island

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: Movies: Science Fiction/Fantasy: The Island
By MarkN on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 12:11 am:

Saw this film today, which I thought wasn't too bad overall, even though it started a bit slow but then kicked in after awhile, especially with the highway chase scene, which IMO was far superior to The Matrix Reloaded's, though not quite as long. I'm not a big Michael Bay fan but I knew going in that it'd be a big film with lots of CGI effects, which don't bother me as long as they're done right and not always obvious, such as having that irritating yet almost-unnoticable aura surrounding the person or object when shot against a blue or green screen. Bay did a pretty good job of having Ewan McGregor interact with himself in some scenes, too. He plays a clone who eventually meets his "sponsor", the person he's a clone of and who paid to have him created.

The only nit that I found in it (cuz I wasn't really watching it to find any, only to enjoy it) was when McCord (Steve Buscemi) was talking with McGregor and Johannson: he had a lava lamp next to him and every time it was shown next to him in his closeups the red goop inside was always a different size and shape in too short of a time for it to have actually happened.


By LUIGI NOVI on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 1:55 pm:

Should the board title really include the Director's name?


By Michael Bay on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 2:33 pm:

Yes.


By Josh M on Friday, August 05, 2005 - 12:03 am:

Who cares?


By Josh M on Friday, August 05, 2005 - 12:15 am:

I wasn't a big fan of this movie, BTW. Pretty typical Bay film, though I did want more.

I was kind of surprised that the facility didn't have better security. I would think that if something like this happened, they could lock the entire place down and seal it up, letting only the highest personnel roam free.

And why is it that the doctor that loaned Lincoln the key never tried to get it back?

I couldn't believe that Laurent didn't see Six Echo slap the bracelet onto Tom's wrist.

At the end, why did the security guys just stand there and watch Lincoln fight Merrick? Why didn't they help? They just let Lincoln kill their boss.


By Snick on Friday, August 05, 2005 - 11:39 am:

I was waiting for Keenan Wynn to save the day.

ref: "Parts: The Clonus Horror", which this movie is a basic remake of


By LUIGI NOVI on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 8:29 am:

Josh M: Who cares?
Luigi Novi: I do. If someone were to scroll down the list of Movies in this category, knowing they were in alphabetical order, they might miss it. If the boards are listed by the movie title alone, it's inconsistent to put the director's name in one of them.


By MarkN on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 5:57 pm:

Luigi, it really doesn't matter. People looking through the list most likely don't do it very fast, anyway, so they're probably more likely to find what they're looking for just the same with little or no problems. Besides, if they already know who the director is then that might make it a bit easier for them to find the title, too.


By R on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 7:24 pm:

And on a page like that I use the handy dandy ctrl-f find feature on my browser.


By LUIGI NOVI on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 10:38 pm:

Besides, if they already know who the director is then that might make it a bit easier for them to find the title, too.
Luigi Novi: How do you figure this? This presumes that they'll be searching for it by director, which is obviously not going to be the case when they see that the movie board titles contain only the name of the movie. Since when do people scroll or search down the list using the director?


By Rona on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 10:10 am:

Many reviews have criticised the film for having so many obvious product-placements. Bay, himself, mentions he collected close to a million dollars through product-placements in the film. I was aware of Lexus and Audi plugs in Minority Report and I, Robot. This film must be really bad to warrant such complaints in the reviews.


By Benn on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 1:00 pm:

I'm lucky. With rare exceptions, I just ignore the product placements. The last one that really irritated me was the one for Burger King in Fantastic Four. But that really wasn't as much a product placement as the Human Torch being slammed into a sign for Burger King.

"I like to watch." - Chance the Gardner


By Josh M on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 12:19 am:

Off topic from the movie, but on topic for this conversation, one of my favorite cases of product placement was on Reno 911!. They had a bag of Arby's which they mistook as evidence on a coffee table at a crime scene and kept referring to the it as "delicious Arby's".


By Brian FitzGerald on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 1:07 pm:

Off-the-wall comedy can do that with proudct placement. Make it so obvious, and so over the top that it's a spoof of product placement; but still get money for doing the product placement. Wayne's World did the same thing, when Wayne and Garth argue about selling out while plugging Pepsi and Pizza Hut.


By Rona on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 6:49 pm:

Don't forget the one of the most famous product-placements; Reese's Pieces in "E.T.". The placement really paid off. Sales of the candy rose enormously after the film came out.


By Adam Bomb on Monday, December 05, 2005 - 9:09 am:

Only because M&M Mars (who the E.T. producers went to first} wouldn't allow M&M's to be used. E.T. became a big payday for Hershey's.


By Influx on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 11:48 am:

This was probably the most boring, predictable "action" movie I've ever seen. It's nice to know that, even post-2050, Budweiser, Xbox, and Aquafina (among others) will still exist. I don't think I've ever seen more blatant product placement. I mean, it's one thing if it is part of the scene, but devoting an entire solo shot to the product is pushing it beyond verisimilitude. (BTW, I don't even think you saw the label of Reese's Pieces in E.T. I think most people assumed they were M&M's initially.)

I don't know if it was supposed to be an homage to so many other SF flicks, but it read to me as "ripoff". I didn't bother watching the credits (and I'm an avid credit/stinger watcher) but I hope they gave credit to "Parts:The Clonus Horror."

I felt kind of bad because I was watching thinking, "Look how much money is being spent, on a bad movie."

The car chase sequence was OK, but my main thought was "Shouldn't the truck driver stop if all that stuff is falling off his rig?" I mean, continuing obliviously for five or ten minutes is ridiculous. Even if it was a robot driver, there should have been some sensor that said "Hey, stuff is falling off. Stop."

And if you title a movie "The Island", you batter darn well have an island in it!!


By Influx on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 12:37 pm:

Oh, yeah. I had to laugh when at the end Lincoln enters the control room and immediately sees the big "ON/OFF" switch. ("To destroy facility, please flip this lever. Have a nice day.")


By inblackestnight on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 7:48 am:

I'm a bit surprised there aren't more posts on this board. Yes it was predictable, and Michael Bay is more interested in explosions than plot, but I thought this was a good flick. Was this movie based on an older one? It seemed familiar.

Anyway, a few observations: I don't see Dr. Merik(?) the type of person to be interested in viewing security videos, espicially after scolding his security officers. Sure he had to find out "a product was on the loose" but there could have been other means.

I know that people can be quick learners but I find it nearly impossible for 6 Echo to be able to drive a jet bike instantly. Also, where did he see that boat and its name to dream about it? I'm not a geneticist but I don't think memories are passed on by a blood sample. How did 6E know to refer to himself as an "insurance policy?"

Those mercenaries are incredibly well funded. They must be very good at their job and world renouned because they had two Dodge Magnums, an armored car, two jet bikes, and a helicopter destroyed. They also shot at cops and their actions caused a lot of damage to city property. There must not be any lawyers in this future because these people would be put away for quite some time. I also find it hard to believe that they would be able to find 6E and 2D so easily by facial features.

Was that missing shoe ever explained?

What do the tazers that institute security uses latch onto to be able to pull on so violently? The skin would just tear off and if it latches onto bone wouldn't that damage the Agnates?


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Tuesday, July 05, 2022 - 5:33 am:

There is a 1980 movie, with Michael Caine, that has the same name as this one.


By Adam Bomb (Abomb) on Tuesday, July 05, 2022 - 8:15 am:

And, that's where the similarity ends. The 1980 film, which starred Michael Caine, was about a man on vacation with his son. They stumble on to an island inhabited by pirates. That's where the fun begins. . The film was based on a novel by Peter Benchley. I thought the film was pretty bad, and it bombed at the box office. Michael Caine probably was in his "I'll do any film for the money" phase; how else can you explain him doing junk like this, The Swarm and Beyond The Poseidon Adventure?


By Matthew See (Matthew_see) on Tuesday, July 05, 2022 - 9:20 am:

Michael Caine has made it known that he hadn't seen Jaws: The Revenge which he was in but he has seen the house that it built!


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Thursday, July 07, 2022 - 5:46 am:

Yeah, he did look at scripts that others would have just tossed in the bin and not looked back.


By Adam Bomb (Abomb) on Thursday, July 07, 2022 - 7:17 am:

Caine's classic quote on Jaws The Revenge goes pretty much like this: " I have never seen it, but I understand it is terrible. However, I have seen the house it built, and it is terrific."


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Tuesday, November 08, 2022 - 5:11 am:

He passed up receiving an Oscar to star in that turkey.


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