Justice League (live action film)

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: Movies: Superheroes: Justice League (live action film)
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By White Star 44 on Thursday, January 28, 1999 - 8:29 pm:

What I've heard:

George Clooney (ER, From Dusk Till Dawn) = Batman
Dean Cain (Lois & Clark)= Superman
Dijmon Hounsou (Amistad) = Bloodwynd
Christina Applegate (Jesse) = Fire
Pierce Brosnan (Goldeneye)= The Flash
Dylan McDermott (The Practice) = Green Lantern (Hal Jordan not the new young guy hopefully)
James Earl Jones (Clear & Present Danger) = Darkseid

Still Not Cast Apparently, Though They Are Planned For The Film:

Guy Gardener
Ice
Blue Beetle
Booster Gold
Wonder Woman

Who would you cast in those 5 roles?


By trevor b on Friday, March 12, 1999 - 9:32 am:

we all know that there is only ONE wonder woman.
this could be linda carter's big comeback, just like travolta in pulp fiction
:P


By Keith Alan Morgan on Sunday, March 14, 1999 - 2:53 pm:

Pierce Brosnan as the Flash??? Maybe as Maxwell Lord, but not the Flash. Get the guy who was in The Flash tv show and bring the padded costume.
As for Guy Gardner which personality will they be using?
What about Lucy Lawless as Wonder Woman? And maybe Renee O'Conner as Ice???
How old is this supposed script? They killed off Ice years ago, changed Booster Gold at the same time, and Guy calls himself Warrior now.
Years ago there was a script for a Justice League tv pilot. Is this rumor based on that?


By Brian Webber on Sunday, March 14, 1999 - 5:16 pm:

They killed Ice? When was this?


By Ryan Smith on Saturday, April 24, 1999 - 7:40 pm:

Ice was killed off during the Judgment Day storyline, right around the time of Zero Hour back in 1994. She was evil for a time, then redeemed herself before getting burned to a crisp.

And I have the JLA pilot on tape. Save your money. Honestly.


By Al Fix on Friday, August 06, 1999 - 11:50 am:

If they use the Kyle Rayner Green Lantern my nomination would be for Rodney Rowland to play him. He was Cooper Hawkes in Space: Above and Beyond (which I miss almost as much as Hal Jordan!)


By John A. Lang on Sunday, July 23, 2000 - 12:16 am:

Please let Linda Carter come back as Wonder Woman!
She was babe-licious.

I loved it when she bent over to pick up a truck or something like that....mmmm...I have seen the mountains and the view is good.


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Sunday, July 23, 2000 - 1:50 am:

She was, almost 30 years ago, but what does she look like now?

I think if they do a new Wonder Woman project she should be Hippolyta (Diana's mom) and pick a younger actress for WW.


By John A. Lang on Sunday, July 23, 2000 - 11:13 am:

That'll work too. To "pass the torch" so to speak.


By Anonymous on Sunday, July 23, 2000 - 11:48 am:

If you see the disposable contact lens commercials, she's still not bad.


By Al Fix on Monday, July 24, 2000 - 9:50 am:

There was a one-shot TV special sometime in the late 70's that featured the Justice League. I remember the characters looking accurate as far as uniforms and such, being played by relative unknowns. I only recall a woman named Danuta as Black Canary. Anyone else know more about it, links or such?


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Monday, July 24, 2000 - 10:51 pm:

2 comedy specials actually. Challenge Of The Superheroes & I forget the name of the second (or was it the first?).

However, the Huntress' costume was wrong. For some reason it was pink instead of dark violet.

I believe Adam West & Burt Ward reprised their roles as Batman & Robin. Frank Gorshin was the Riddler.

They had an odd assortment of heroes & villains too. Most of the heroes were (or could be said to be) from Earth 1 in the present, but not all.

Huntress was from Earth 2 (daughter of the Earth 2 Batman & Catwoman).

Captain Marvel (Shazam!) was from Earth S.

Solomon Grundy (villain) was from Earth 2.

Mordru (evil magician) was from another planet in the 30th century.


By John Lang on Wednesday, January 03, 2001 - 11:53 am:

My votes for "Wonder Woman"....

Lynda Carter (why not?)

Marina Sirtis

Demi Moore

Lucy Lawless

Take your pick.


By Anonymous on Friday, September 21, 2001 - 2:09 pm:

KAM - I think it was Legend of the Superheroes with a total of two eps. "The Challenge" and "The Roast." Check out http://www.auschron.com/issues/dispatch/1999-11-19/screens_video3.html


By KAM on Tuesday, September 25, 2001 - 1:59 am:

I'm amazed this board survived the moderator's ax.

Intersting link. I had read about the Fantastic Four movie in Comics Scene magazine years ago.


By Meg on Saturday, June 08, 2002 - 8:34 pm:

If there was a justic league movie And i was incharge of it I would have these superheroes:

Batman
Superman
Green Lantern
Aqua Man
The Flash
Wonder Woman
Martain Manhunter
Plastic Man
Hawk Girl

I have no idea who'd play who except I'd like Jennifer Connelly as Wonder Woman and maybe Johnny Depp as Batman or the Green Lantern. Also a passing thought in my mind was Jim Carrey as Plastic Man. I'd like the Joker to come into play in the movie too.


By LUIGI NOVI (Lnovi) on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 11:09 am:

Writers have been hired.


By LUIGI NOVI (Lnovi) on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 6:59 pm:

Brandon Routh joins cast as Superman?


By mike powers on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 11:07 am:

I'd like to see Ray Palmer,aka "The Atom",make it onto the JLA roster.Does anyone else think as I do,that when it comes to female super heroes Marvel has the superior characters as compared to DC?


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 3:43 pm:

I agree. After Wonder Woman I have to think hard regarding additional big-name female super powers, whereas with Marvel, I think of the Invisible Woman, Storm, Rogue, She-Hulk, Ms.Marvel, Wasp, and Jean Grey in seconds.
For a first movie things would get crowded past six characters, so I'd go with;
Batman
Superman
Wonder Woman
The Flash
Green Lantern
The Atom.
The next movie could bring in three, four, or all five of these heroes;
Hawkman
Hawk Girl
Aquaman
Green Arrow
Martian Manhunter


By LUIGI NOVI (Lnovi) on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 8:25 pm:

Mike Powers: Does anyone else think as I do,that when it comes to female super heroes Marvel has the superior characters as compared to DC?
Luigi Novi: In terms of what criteria?

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Me, my ideal JLA lineup, I don't know why, is Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter and Aquaman. I dunno, maybe I'm influenced by Grant Morrison's run on the title. For some additions, I like Plastic Man, Atom, and Steel, perhaps because I liked the dynamic of that roster in JLA: Heaven's Ladder. I also liked Bryan Hitch's rendition of that team, though I supposed I like everything that he does.


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 11:07 am:

I re-watched my copy of the tv pilot this weekend, and thought I'd make some comments.
Upon a second viewing I think this is 'okay' but still mediocre and an apparent attempt to 'humanize' the team, giving them average-joe problems. The Flash is an unemployable shlep, Guy Gardner (Green Lantern) is having girlfriend troubles, and Ray Palmer (the Atom) is an insecure short guy with glasses that make him look more at home in a office cubicle.
There are 'interviews' with the heroes in their civilian identities throughtout the 87 minute show, but we never see who they're talking to. After a while, these odd interviews that give insight into their characters actually come across as interviews for a dating service or marriage counselling.
There's humorous parts throughout so that was okay.
The Martian Manhunter makeup was great, and I'd give top marks for that. Still hard to believe that Major Winchester of MASH (David Ogden Stiers) was J'onn J'onzz.
The Green Lantern seems strangely named, as there's not a power lantern in sight, and neither does he recharge his ring with it as he makes his oath (In darkest night...Green Lantern's light, etc.) He's also unable to fly, except with he creates a type of helicopter motion with his ring power over his head. And he's not quite green; I'd call it more aqua marine or teal or turqouise, and its the jacket version from the comics of that time.
The Flash's costume is very similar to the comic books, although his 'ear wings' are lightning bolts near his eyes, and the lightning braid around his forearm is now a lightning bolt on his forearm pointing towards his hands.
The Atom's costume looks awkward, like a painted football player's shoulderpads, and the 'atom' insignia looks too large and cartoony. They kept him red and blue, but not in the same way I remember his costume. I liked the special effect of him as he shrinks, though.
I did like the angular eye holes on their costumes, which are similar to present-day Batman masks.
Fire I'm not familiar with, but her green sparkle paint beneath her eyes seems like a lame disguise and I gotta wonder about a character called 'Fire' that's not dressed in a 'hot' color like yellow or orange.
'Ice' looks like she's a figure skater hanging out with the JLA, once she dons the tights.
In fact,
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it turns out that only Ice was able to defeat the plans of the villain, the Weatherman, when she froze the tidal wave heading for the city. I'd have thought that Green Lantern could have created a huge green force field to stop it or slow it down, but the JLA does little more than try to keep citizens running for their lives.

All in all, an okay attempt, and the only live action JLA out thereother than fan-produced YouTube shorts.
If they can get a big budget JLA movie made with present-day actors Brandon Routh and his Batman counterpart, I'd definitely like to see it made. We got X-Men and the Fantastic Four, so the JLA should become the next big team franchise.


By KAM on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 2:46 am:

Fire was originally called The Green Flame when she first appeared with The Global Guardians in an issue of Super-Friends, then a later appearance changed her name to The Green Fire.

In an effort to add more babes to the Justice League International/America TPTB had the Global Guardians break up or something & Green Fire & Ice Maiden joined the America branch of the JLI. (Rather ironically I thought since most of Justice League Europe was made up of American super-heroes.)

At some point after this TIIC decided to shorten the girls' name & market them as Fire & Ice, but they kept the green color of Fire's fire because apparently they assumed anyone reading would understand.

The Flash is an unemployable shlep
I hope it was the Wally West version.

Ray Palmer (the Atom) is an insecure short guy
Thereby ignoring the irony of a 6-footer being the smallest superhero. (As well as naming him after the shortest SF editor.)
If they were going to make him a short guy why not call him Al Pratt (the original Atom)?


By LUIGI NOVI (Lnovi) on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 10:27 pm:

Ryan Reynolds as Flash?


By Josh M on Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 12:08 pm:

Will JLA Be All CG?

Does every article about this movie end in a question mark?


By LUIGI NOVI (Lnovi) on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 12:27 am:

A more detailed story is here. If this is true, then I am not happy. Final Fantasy was awful, and the Beowulf trailer looks awful too.


By Josh M on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 9:52 am:

Final Fantasy was motion capture? I didn't think that it was. Anyway, I wouldn't mind if they shot it like that. I actually thought that that movie looked good. Beowulf, though, looks a little too wrong for my tastes, so if it ends up looking like that I'll be a bit disappointed.


By LUIGI NOVI (Lnovi) on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 12:32 pm:

The faces looked like mannequins. The ones in the Beowulf trailer looked only slightly less so.

I don't know if FF was mo-cap. My comparison was based on it being completely CGI with non-stylized human characters.


By LUIGI NOVI (Lnovi) on Friday, August 31, 2007 - 10:41 pm:

Maggie Gyllenhaal as Jayna of the Wonder Twins?


By LUIGI NOVI (Lnovi) on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 11:01 pm:

Jessica Biel is in talks to play Wonder Woman.


By Josh M on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 7:12 pm:

And Victoria Hill tried out for it.


By LUIGI NOVI (Lnovi) on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 11:06 am:

Btw, am I the only one who thinks Rena Sofer looks just like Wonder Woman, and would make a great casting choice?


By Josh M on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 8:34 pm:

Yeah, she would work


By LUIGI NOVI (Lnovi) on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 5:41 pm:

Biel is out. Darnit. :-(


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 8:50 pm:

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Heck there are worse things to get typecast as! I was pulling for Biel even before her name was mentioned. :-(


By Nove Rockhoomer on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 11:18 am:

My suggestion would be Stacy Keibler


By LUIGI NOVI (Lnovi) on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 3:24 pm:

Secrets of the script revealed! Which heroes are in it, which aren't, who the main villains are, and some other tidbits from a source that read the script! It's in the form of a 16-question FAQ. No details as to the exact plot, much less its resolution, so I didn't mind reading this, but if you're so inclined, you may consider these spoilers, so be warned!


By LUIGI NOVI (Lnovi) on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 12:41 pm:

Wonder Woman is cast.


By LUIGI NOVI (Lnovi) on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 12:10 am:

Batman is cast. Also, a different source than the one mentioned right above names a different actress as being cast as Wonder Woman.


By Brian FitzGerald on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 3:58 pm:

I do think the writer is way off base in in objecting to the casting of Wonder Woman simply because the woman is a model who has done tasteful nude work in the past. Batman was last played by Christian Bale, who until than was most well known for playing a serial killer in a film that some accused of glorifying violence against women ("American Psycho").


By LUIGI NOVI (Lnovi) on Sunday, December 02, 2007 - 12:03 am:

And he appeared in sex scenes in that movie too.


By LUIGI NOVI (Lnovi) on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 11:31 pm:

Adam Brody is The Flash.


By LUIGI NOVI (Lnovi) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 4:55 pm:

The plug has been pulled.


By Josh M on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 2:01 pm:

According to AICN, Hugh Keays-Byrne, known for his roles in Mad Max and Farscape will play the Martian Manhunter.


By Josh M on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 8:50 pm:

And the plug is back in.


By LUIGI NOVI (Lnovi) on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 6:21 pm:

And back out. Dammit.


By KAM on Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 1:46 am:

Oh, man. Someone at Veoh.com had uploaded the '97 TV pilot. Ugh! Awful. I gave up less than 10 minutes into it.

While obviously inspired by the Bwa-ha-ha League of Giffen & DeMatteis it just weren't funny (unlike G&D's JL comic which, while horribly out-of-character, did deliver the funny).

The 'villain' creates a storm & rather than springing into action GL creates an umbrella over himself & a girl while the other heroes just stand around like their fanboys waiting for the comic-con to start.

Then Atom uses his power to... get a woman's cat out from under a car...

Oh, my sides, they ache from the laughter... not!

(On a side note maybe Luigi should break this thread up? Since it seems to have discussions on a couple of different Justice League treatments?)


By Luigi Novi (Luigi_novi) on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 11:22 pm:

Jeff Robinov, the president of the Warner Bros. motion picture group, who has the ultimate say on what films get made at the studio, wants to take another stab at a JL film, and hopes to get it in theaters by 2013.


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 8:21 am:

Poor DC Comics. With 'The Avengers' out and making huge bucks and exciting fans like nothing else, The Justice League looks like it's been left out in the rain to rust.
All I can say is if they EVER make a JLA film, they'll obviously have ALOT to live up to, once comparisons are made to the Avengers film.


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Saturday, October 20, 2012 - 8:52 am:

Could this finally be it? Can we finally hold our breath in anticipation, instead of just hoping for something to happen?
Here's a story from comicbookresources.com...

"Following the result of the long-running legal battle over the rights to Superman, Warner Bros. has announced its plans to move forward with the "Justice League" film. The L.A. Times reports the Warner adaptation of the DC Comics premiere super-team will likely begin shooting next year with a 2015 release date in mind. The studio plans to use "Justice League" as a launch platform for other individual franchises, contrary to the method which Marvel utilized to build "The Avengers" -- which makes it unlikely for the "Justice League" film to include Christopher Nolan's version of Batman or Zack Snyder's version of Superman.

Since the "Justice League" film adaptation was announced, rumors have run rampant about the cast and director -- at one point Ben Affleck and the Wachowskis were both rumored to direct. There are still some reports that Warner Bros. will use the film to introduce a new Batman and "The Lone Ranger" lead actor Armie Hammer may be the one to play him. Regardless, fans will likely find out more as the film begins shooting next year.
It looks as though Warner Bros. finally plans to move forward with some concrete plans for its "Justice League" film. The studio has announced a 2015 target date for the film following the ruling on a long legal battle for the rights on Superman. The plan is for the studio to begin shooting the film next year. Warner Bros. hopes to spin solo films out of the ensemble picture -- essentially the opposite of Marvel's formula.
Opens 2015"


By Luigi Novi (Luigi_novi) on Friday, December 28, 2012 - 5:45 pm:

Someone at ComicBookMovie.com posted an opinion piece arguing why a good "Justice League" movie can't be made. I posted my response there just now. Rather than rehash what I said, I'll just link to the page.

My post is on Page 2 of the comments, so you have to scroll down to the bottom of the comment and click on the Page 2 link, since Page 2 doesn't seem to have a permalink.


By AWhite (Inblackestnight) on Saturday, December 29, 2012 - 7:43 pm:

I can't say I read all the comments but I read most of the first page and skimmed the second, reading yours of course Luigi :-) Good points as usual.

In regards to the article itself I think a Justice League movie is quite do-able; WB just has a lot of work to do if JL wants to be considered in the same league (for lack of a better word) as The Avengers. Marvel has a lot to be proud of right now but they haven't always been in this position. It wasn't that long ago when DC produced more comic-book movies, but as long as it's a well-done story I won't really care which universe it comes from. I've always been more of a DC person, particularly GL if my screen-name didn't give that away, but Avengers is currently my favorite comic-book movie because it was an all-around good flick. Aside from the Batman movies DC has some serious catching up to do, and I'm not that big a Batman fan. Perhaps this new Superman movie will get the franchise back on course.


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Friday, January 25, 2013 - 10:06 am:

From comicbookresources.com...

"The website, Latino Review, cites unnamed sources as stating the core group for the Warner Bros. film will consist of core members Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman and The Flash with possible minor cameos from Martian Manhunter, Aquaman and Hawkman.

It's currently only a rumor and the film is still in early stages of development, so even if it's true, it may not be set in stone."

That's the line-up I'd expect for the first film.


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Friday, July 05, 2013 - 10:02 am:

A bit of an update from David Goyer...

"With Man of Steel out today, plenty of speculation will mount in the coming days about the planned sequel and DC’s upcoming superhero team up, Justice League.
Buoyed by good reviews, DC announced this week that director Zack Snyder and writer David S. Goyer will be back for Man of Steel 2, as well as Justice League. No timetable is set, but the films will be fast-tracked into production.
In an interview with Hey U Guys, Goyer talked about the approach he and Snyder had to scripting and shooting Man of Steel. Specifically, its position as the launching pad for Justice League and future DC comic book movies.
“It would be disingenuous to say Warner Bros [didn't] hope that this would be the starting point for a shared universe,” Goyer said.
But if Justice League happens, and it is, then the Batman in it will not be Christian Bale, Goyer added. “Zack has said that Bruce Wayne exists in this universe. It would be a different Bruce Wayne from Chris’ [Nolan] Dark Knight trilogy, and it would be disingenuous to say that Zack and I haven’t had various conversations on set, around ‘what if’ and ‘moving forward.’”
Goyer also revealed that his Justice League will be a departure from the Will Beal script that was rejected earlier this year.
“It would be blank slate,” he said. Indicating his high hopes for the film, Goyer added, “If we can do Batman and Superman, then maybe we can move on to Wonder Woman, and The Flash, and characters like that.”
Goyer was smart enough to hedge his bets.
“They’re hoping that the film does well, but god forbid it doesn’t, things will change. I don’t know how many different iterations of Justice League they’ve tried to mount over the last decade or so. But for one reason or another they haven’t happened.”


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 - 11:56 am:

Might as well ignore all that.
The Justice League movie has been pushed back, yet again, and will allegedly, supposedly, if-you-say-so, I-think-yer-lying-to-me-again, messing with my mind and patience, 2017.

Somehow, it's a really really weird world out there when a team like the Guardians of the Galaxy get their own film before the Justice League.
Go figger.


By Luigi_novi (Luigi_novi) on Monday, April 28, 2014 - 7:21 pm:

Zack Snyder will not only direct Batman vs. Superman, but this film as well.


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 4:30 pm:

From comicbookresources.com...

"Everyone knew it was coming, but after numerous fits and starts it's nice to have it finally confirmed. After Superman and Batman team up (or fight) in director Zack Snyder's just-named "Man of Steel" sequel, "Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice," the filmmaker and Warner Bros. will finally present "Justice League," a movie fans have been clamoring for since, well, forever. We already know that Henry Cavill's Superman and Ben Affleck's Batman will join Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman, and it was recently been confirmed that Cyborg will make his film debut in "Batman/Superman" as played by Ray Fisher. That's a generous helping of heroes, but with "Justice League" on the horizon and the stakes undoubtedly going up, Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and Cyborg will need more allies from among the ranks of DC Comics' greatest champions.
Who will comprise the cinematic Justice League is a question on the minds of many fans. With a literal pantheon of heroes to choose from, will DC go in the opposite direction of "Marvel's The Avengers" and feature a large team, or, like Marvel, will DC go with a small group to ease fans into the world of "Justice League." Big or small, the heroes that are chosen to answer the call will be vital to DC's potential film success."

If Batman Vs. Superman wasn't setting up this film, I would say, Yea, I'll believe it when I see it, but maybe, just maybe, I'll take the bait and believe this is in the works for real this time.


By ScottN (Scottn) on Sunday, June 04, 2017 - 11:15 pm:

Previews for Wonder Woman included Justice Leage.

Jason Momoa looks like he had a blast making this.

I know that PAL, but Supes doesn't show up in the preview, nor on the poster.

I'm not up on my DC... who is the cyborg guy?


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Tuesday, June 06, 2017 - 5:36 am:

The cyborg guy is creatively named... Cyborg. *shrug*

He was created back in the '80s for The New Teen Titans, but for some inexplicable reason when the idiots in charge of DC rebooted things for the New 52 they decided that Cyborg would be a founding member of the Justice League instead. *shrug*

Jason Momoa... Atlantis... I wonder if Aquaman will talk about his time in the Pegasus Galaxy? ;-)


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Wednesday, November 29, 2017 - 6:26 am:

From the first entry on this page for this movie, waaaay back in 1999 ;

By White Star 44 on Thursday, January 28, 1999 - 8:29 pm:
What I've heard:

George Clooney (ER, From Dusk Till Dawn) = Batman
Dean Cain (Lois & Clark)= Superman
Dijmon Hounsou (Amistad) = Bloodwynd
Christina Applegate (Jesse) = Fire
Pierce Brosnan (Goldeneye)= The Flash
Dylan McDermott (The Practice) = Green Lantern (Hal Jordan not the new young guy hopefully)
James Earl Jones (Clear & Present Danger) = Darkseid

Still Not Cast Apparently, Though They Are Planned For The Film:

Guy Gardener
Ice
Blue Beetle
Booster Gold
Wonder Woman

Who would you cast in those 5 roles?

Not those guys! Yikes! That wouldn't have been half as good as what we ended up with. Clooney and Cain? Ughh.


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Sunday, February 14, 2021 - 3:50 pm:

Here's the Snyder cut trailer.
The last scene should blow you away fior what we missed.

https://youtu.be/0QmSF7WUyN0


By Adam Bomb (Abomb) on Sunday, March 07, 2021 - 9:00 am:

Here's an article about the Superman suits used in this film. Including a black one.
Is it true that the Snyder cut, to be released on HBO Max, is four hours long? At least it will be streamed, so old farts like me can stop and come back to it even days later.


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Monday, March 15, 2021 - 11:27 am:

I won't be streaming the Zack Snyder version (I don't stream anything, actually), but I plan to check it out as soon as possible. Hopefully it'll get onto DVD in a month or two
In the meantime, here are some reviews from the CBR.com website;

"The early reviews for Zack Snyder's Justice League are starting to pour in, and it seems the long-awaited Snyder Cut is proving just as polarizing as the discourse that's surrounded it over the past several years."

CBR's review by Sandy Schaefer says "there's no question Zack Snyder's Justice League is the better version of the film," while also noting that "In some cases, the added world-building serves the movie's standalone narrative and character arcs. Other times, however, these elements are more or less extraneous to what Justice League is about."

John DeFore, THR: "Stripped of nearly all of what might've been called jokes in the 2017 film, Justice League largely maintains a testosterocious monotony from its first chapter, in which Bruce Wayne (Ben Affleck) travels to an Icelandic fishing village to ask Aquaman (Jason Momoa) to join him in fighting an unspecified intergalactic menace. "A strong man is stronger alone," Waterbro grunts, stripping off his shirt and descending into the sea. At this, a group of Icelandic women perform a quiet song of farewell — an early example of the kind of cinematic gold the Snyder Cut rescues from Whedon's cutting-room floor."

Owen Gleiberman, Variety: "The new movie — and make no mistake, it really is a new movie — is more than a vindication of Snyder’s original vision. It’s a grand, nimble, and immersive entertainment, a team-of-heroes origin story that, at heart, is classically conventional, yet it’s now told with such an intoxicating childlike sincerity and ominous fairy-tale wonder that it takes you back to what comic books, at their best, have always sought to do: make you feel like you’re seeing gods at play on Earth."

Amon Warmann, Empire: "Typically for a Snyder movie, a big chunk of the hefty running time is spent in super slow motion. Sometimes, the director overindulges — a rescue involving a flying hot dog (no, really) feels overlong — but generally it’s used in the service of accentuating action beats. At times, it feels needlessly violent — Wonder Woman goes overkill on some terrorists in an early re-edited scene — but more often than not it feels satisfying, especially in a crowdpleasing final act."

Tom Jorgensen, IGN: "The set-up of Zack Snyder’s Justice League, in broad terms, remains the same as the theatrical cut: after Superman (Henry Cavill) sacrifices himself to kill Doomsday, Bruce Wayne (Ben Affleck) resolves to put together a team of heroes to defend Earth from an oncoming alien threat. But with double the runtime to spend on establishing context around key events, how that story is told this time around far more coherent and engaging. Where the theatrical cut raced from action scene to action scene, Zack Snyder’s Justice League is a methodical slow-burn and has a much deeper interest in exploring its characters and lore than you may expect."

Maya Phillips, The New York Times: "Predictably, the supersized run time allows the narrative room to stretch, for better or for worse. For better: There’s an ambitious mythology at work, revealing the epic that Snyder had envisioned, a bildungsroman of not one hero but a team of heroes who achieve even greater feats together. This scale of story, when shrunken and chopped up for the theatrical cut, skimmed over world-building details like how Wonder Woman discovers Steppenwolf’s plan, and the extent of Cyborg’s connection to the Mother Boxes. For worse: Snyder also plods through seemingly endless, pointless exposition, adding enough back story for each Justice League hero to strong-arm us into investing in these characters so we care when they finally put on the team jerseys and step out onto the court."


By Adam Bomb (Abomb) on Thursday, March 18, 2021 - 8:50 am:

And, here's a review of the Snyder cut from NPR. I do have HBO Max; at four hours, watching this pic may take three days.


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