The Princess Bride

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: Movies: Miscellaneous Comedy: The Princess Bride
By Mike Ram on Tuesday, August 10, 1999 - 12:28 am:

Before I saw the movie over the weekend, I thought it was a cartoon, especially because of the name. It turned out to be live action, and it was still very enjoyable.

I also noticed that a lot of the characters did guest appearances on various Star Trek episodes; I can remember seeing the 1/4 Betazoid from "The Price" (Nextgen) and the guy who played the Nagus on DS9, but I can't seem to recall who else...


By Mike Ram on Friday, August 27, 1999 - 6:43 pm:

Oh, there was that guy who tried to out-prominade-entertain Quark on DS9.


By notv on Thursday, September 02, 1999 - 6:48 pm:

I knew it, this movie was too good to not be
linked with Star Trek in some way. Which character
was the nagus in the movie?


By Mike Ram on Thursday, September 02, 1999 - 7:53 pm:

The short bald guy who ordered the giant and the swordsman around all the time until he died from poison...


By rachgd on Thursday, September 02, 1999 - 8:06 pm:

Vizzini.
"Inconceivable!"


By MikeC on Friday, September 03, 1999 - 12:33 pm:

1. Never get involved in a land war in Asia.
2. Never try to outwit a Sicilian!


By notv on Friday, September 03, 1999 - 8:53 pm:

I found the book the other day, it was written by
William Goldman, who I think was the same guy who
wrote the screen play. It is every bit as good as
the movie, though a bit darker. I highly recommend
it.

"do you realize that your JOB is at stake?"


By Ally-cat on Saturday, September 04, 1999 - 8:23 pm:

There is going to be a sequal to The Princess Bride called Buttercups Baby. When I read the Princess Bride it was an abridged version which i really enjoyed.
At the end of the book it had the first chapter of Buttercups Baby which follows directly on from the Princess Bride. ie. they are running thriugh the woods away from Prince Humperdink's men

I also read that Stephen King may be writing the abridged version of Buttercups Baby
"Hear that princess, that is the sound of the shrieking eels!"


By rachgd on Sunday, September 05, 1999 - 5:41 am:

I totally hated the book! And it is my absolute favourite movie.

Go figure.

A sequel? Can I just say: yay!

Except, not if it's gonna s-u-c-k. What do you all think? Will it s-u-c-k?

(Can you believe the censorware won't allow s-u-c-k!? What if I wanna talk about vacuum cleaners or something?)

Do you have any more info on the new movie, Ally-cat, anyone? Stars, director, etc.?

And a Vizzini quote, close to my heart:

"Iocaine comes from Australia. And Australia is entirely populated by criminals, as everyone knows. And criminals are used to not being trusted, as you are not trusted by me, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you..."

(Okay. Working from memory. May well have it wrong.)


By notv on Sunday, September 05, 1999 - 7:39 pm:

Ally-cat: was the abridged version that you read
"S. Morgenstern's classic tale 'the good Parts
version' Abridged by William Goldman?" It has
always been my understanding that "S. Morgenstern"
never existed and that the book is truly written
by Goldman. He didn't abridge it because all of
the book that ever existed is what we read. For
proof of this I submit that the place Morgernstern
was supposed to be from, "Florin," has never been
on any map thay I have ever seen.


By Ally-cat on Monday, September 06, 1999 - 2:03 am:

From what I've read of the sequal it sounds good. As to whether that will be converted into a movie I don't know.

Notv, the abridged version I read was "S. Morgenstern's ...". Abridged by William Goldman. His abridged version apparently received a lot of criticism for cutting out too much of the story. So with the sequal he researched the place the story was set in as well as what was occuring to S. Morgenstern when he wrote it.

Goldman wrote the screenplay for the Princess Bride based on S. Morgenstern's book.


By rachgd on Monday, September 06, 1999 - 10:36 pm:

I don't think S. Morgenstern exists.


By Ally-cat on Tuesday, September 07, 1999 - 5:49 am:

Well I guess it could be a big conspiracy which no one knows about.....
"We are both men of action, lies do not become us"

( I can't think of any more Vizzini quotes!)


By notv on Tuesday, September 07, 1999 - 8:27 pm:

Well, I've done a bit of research and I think that
I can prove that Morgenstern is meerly a literary
device of Goldman's. However, I did find one fact
that seems to support Ally-cat's view.

1)I could not find reference to Morganstern's
alleged home country "Florin" in any Encyclopedia
or web page, except for a town in the midwest
called Florin. Nor did any source I checked have
any reference to the language that Morganstern
allegedly first wrote the book in "Florinease"
2)I can't find any indications of book "The
Princess Bride" ever being publised with S.
Morganstern as the only author. Nor can I find any
other books publised S. Morganstern alone.
3)Goldman published another book also allegedly by
Morganstern which is apparently a spoof on opera
called "The Silent Gondalers (sp?)." I think that
it is significant that the only two works of
fiction that Goldman publishes are "written" by
Morganstern.

AND YET...
amazon.com did list some vesions of the Princess
Bride by Goldman as abridged. If my theory is
correct they couldn't possibly be abridged. Though
older editions of the same book were not listed
that way I feel that this leaves the door open for
further speculation. My research was certiantly
not so exaustive that I couldn't still be proved
wrong. In fact, if Morganstern existed I would
really love to find his original books. In keeping
with the sort of x-files conspiracy suggested by
Ally-Cat "I want to believe" :-)

"no more rhyming, I mean it"
"anybody want a peanut?"


By Jack Meyers on Tuesday, September 07, 1999 - 10:01 pm:

Simon Morganstern never really existed. It was just a clever ploy by Goldman. There never was a Florin or Guilder. He wrote that he found his copy of the Princess Bride in the Florinese section of a bookstore. If Florinese books exist, how come we've never heard of them? The whole Morgenstern thing is very well done, but it is fiction.


By Westley on Tuesday, September 07, 1999 - 10:39 pm:

Regarding Morganstern...

As you wish...


By Ally-cat on Wednesday, September 08, 1999 - 5:57 am:

Well i'm admitting defeat.
THERE IS NO S.MORGENSTERN!. At least every place i've looked at tells me that. He seems to be a figment of Goldman's overactive imagination.

Check it out here:
http://204.97.147.41/book.htm

Change of topic
Could Indigo Montoya (sp?) have survived that amount of blood loss?
And is buttercup really worthy of the title of the most beautiful women in the world?


By rachgd on Wednesday, September 08, 1999 - 7:30 am:

Inigo: I'm thinking they made a stop at Miracle Max's on their way to the Pirate Ship Revenge.

Buttercup: definitely very beautiful. Hard to argue with that.

"Have you heard of Plato? Aristotle? Socrates?"
"Yes."
"Morons!"


By Inigo Montoya on Wednesday, September 08, 1999 - 9:14 am:

My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.


By Ally-cat on Thursday, September 09, 1999 - 7:03 am:

"Do you want me to send you back where you were, unemployed in Greenland?"

I remembered a quote!
;-)


By Ally-cat on Thursday, September 09, 1999 - 7:03 am:

"Do you want me to send you back where you were, unemployed in Greenland?"

I remembered a quote!
;-)


By Zekkie on Thursday, September 09, 1999 - 7:04 am:

'Hello Quark!'


By notv on Friday, September 10, 1999 - 7:05 pm:

My personal favorite is "she is not eaten by eels
at this time"
This has got to be one of the most quotable movies
of all time.


By Jake Dominguez on Friday, September 10, 1999 - 8:37 pm:

Anyone consider a special board, maybe under The Kitchen Sink, where posters say a random movie quote, and other people try to guess where it came from? I play this game with my family and it's always fun. Any votes of confidence?

P.S. Here's something to start off:

"This is not Mel Torme."


By Merat on Tuesday, October 05, 1999 - 11:49 pm:

Montoya: "There is something you should know....I'm not left handed!"

Dread Pirate Roberts: "There is something that YOU should know....I'm not left handed either!"


By ScottN on Wednesday, October 06, 1999 - 11:54 am:

Miracle Max: "Have fun storming the castle!"

or how about

Fessik (to Vizzini): "You use that word a lot. I don't think it means what you think it does."


By rachgd on Wednesday, October 06, 1999 - 8:14 pm:

Actually, ScottN, it goes:

Vizzini: "Inconceivable!"
Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

No wonder you didn't win all of Ben Stein's money! <g>

You know, it is truly a rare thing when I get to correct you. Would it be shallow of me to say that I really enjoyed it?

::In the Fire Swamp::
Westley: "It's not that bad."
Buttercup: "......?"
Westley: "I'm not saying I want to build a Summer home here, but the trees are actually quite lovely."


By ScottN on Thursday, October 07, 1999 - 12:48 am:

[dips his toe in....]
Hmm... about 1 inch deep. Pretty shallow if you ask me! :-P


By ScottN on Thursday, October 07, 1999 - 12:50 am:

Besides, rach, do you know how long it's been since I've seen this film? About 5 years...


By rachgd on Thursday, October 07, 1999 - 8:23 pm:

ScottN: I tend to watch it pretty much on a monthly basis, so I basically have it memorised in it's entirety.

But, you! Haven't watched it for five years? What's all that about?

I can't help but feel that you're slacking off on your assigned pop culture nitpickin' duties...


By rachgd, who forgot the obligatory quote on Thursday, October 07, 1999 - 8:26 pm:

Grandson: "Is this a kissing book?"


By Ally-Cat on Sunday, October 10, 1999 - 8:07 pm:

"Life is pain Highness , anybody that says different is selling something!"

Dread Pirate Roberts!


By notv on Monday, October 11, 1999 - 1:19 pm:

hey rachgd, nitpickers are a varied group! Not all
of us are lucky enough to be able to watch things
over and over. I haven't seen this movie in at
least seven years due to technical limitations (as
my name indicates, I don't have access to a tv).
It is possible to nitpick without seeing things
often, you just have to have a good memory, and
often an episode guide (or, of course, a nitpicker
guide, :-), yeah Phil!).
"Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya; you killed
my father, prepare to die"
"Stop saying that!"


By Jack Morgan on Monday, October 11, 1999 - 8:37 pm:

Vizzini: (To Fezzik) FINISH HIM, FINISH HIM! YOUR WAY!

Fezzik: Oh good, my way. Thank you, Vizzini. Which way's my way?

Vizzini: Pick up one of those rocks, get behind the boulder. In a few minutes the man in black will come running around the bend. The minute his head is in view, HIT IT WITH THE ROCK!!

Fezzik: My way's not very sportsmanlike.


By Sarah Perkins on Saturday, November 06, 1999 - 8:03 pm:

I just watched this movie for the umpteenth time and caught(*gasp*) a real live nit!

When Wesley is being killed in the life-draining machine, Inigo hears his screams and says it is the man in black, who is in agony because his true love will marry someone else the next day.

How does Inigo that Buttercup is Wesley's(man-in-black's) true love? He doesn't even know that Wesley is the Dread Pirate Roberts.

"You've been mostly dead all day."


By rachgd on Sunday, November 07, 1999 - 4:00 am:

Sarah! Blasphemy! :) I kid. Actually, yeah, I know exactly what you mean, and that bugged me, too, for the longest time ...until I figured out that Inigo must have doubled back after the sword fight -- and was that not the coolest sword fight (with the possible exceptions of the banquet hall scene in the original Robin Hood and the Buffy v Angel fight in "Becoming Pt 2") ever? -- and was there at the other end of the Fire Swamp, watching, when Buttercup and Westley emerged.

Well, that's what I keep telling myself, anyway. Of course, I dimly recall the book doing it all differently, but ignore the book, I say! It just does not compare...

Westley: "Do you always start conversations this way?"


By Anonymous on Friday, December 03, 1999 - 9:47 pm:

Test.


By Mike Ram on Friday, January 14, 2000 - 12:00 am:

"I'm with the brute squad"
"You're with the brute squad?"
"You are the brute squad!"

Couldn't resist.


By Merat on Thursday, May 04, 2000 - 9:57 am:

Isn't one of the last lines of the book something along the lines of "until Inigo's wounds reopened?" This is in reference to "could Inigo have survived that much blood loss?" Also, sadly, the actor who played Fezzik, Andre the Giant died several years ago, so, if there IS a sequel movie, it will be with another actor.


By Butch Brookshier on Sunday, May 14, 2000 - 12:44 pm:

Jake, since everyone else seems to have ignored your quote, I'll answer.
It's from "Top Secret!" with Val Kilmer. It's one of the Zucker-Abraham-Zucker movies.
If you still want to try to start a thread on these, may I suggest putting it in "The Grapevine" section.


By Jake Dominguez on Sunday, May 14, 2000 - 4:10 pm:

Right! Well, 8 months, but I got a reply. I guess I'll just start the movie quote board and see who wanders by. Bye!


By Lauren Mag on Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 11:27 am:

Even though no one's posted here in about a year I had to say this is one of my favorite movies of all time!!
And this is my favorite quote of all time!

Inigo Montoya: That Vizzini, he can *fuss*.
Fezzik: Fuss, fuss... I think he like to scream at *us*.
Inigo Montoya: Probably he means no *harm*.
Fezzik: He's really very short on *charm*.
Inigo Montoya: You have a great gift for rhyme.
Fezzik: Yes, yes, some of the time.
Vizzini: Enough of that!
Inigo Montoya: Fezzik, are there rocks ahead?
Fezzik: If there are, we all be dead!
Vizzini: No more rhymes now, I mean it!
Fezzik: Anybody want a peanut?
Vizzini: DYEEAAHHHHHH!!


By Derf on Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 11:19 am:

Humperdink: Iocaine ... I'd bet my life on it.


By Derf on Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 8:09 pm:

Fezzig: I am the Dwed Piwate Woberts!


By Scott McClenny on Friday, August 24, 2001 - 7:28 pm:

Well is Westley still mostly dead,or has he
gotten better yet?
The book's one of my faves!!!!!:)


By Meg on Saturday, August 25, 2001 - 11:06 am:

One of my MST's come from this movie. In the Empire Strikes Back and Darth Vader is Talking to The bounty Hunters. He point to Boba Fett and says:

Vader: No Disentigrations.
Fett: As You wish.

Me: Little did Vader know was that every time Fett said "As You Wish" He really meant "I love You"


By Duke of Earl Grey on Saturday, August 25, 2001 - 3:03 pm:

Hilarious, Meg!


By aifix on Saturday, August 25, 2001 - 7:47 pm:

Special edition of The Princess Bride comes out soon! Saw it on Amazon.


By JD on Saturday, August 25, 2001 - 10:06 pm:

Already ordered my copy! Commentaries, yes!


By MuscaDomestica on Saturday, March 23, 2002 - 11:08 am:

Morgenstern does not exist, check out the Book, "Which Lie Did I Ttell" by Goldman He talks about getting writers block while writting the story and not sure how he could get to the different locations. Then he realized it could just be an abridged version of the book, allowing him to get to the "good parts."


By constanze on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 5:38 am:

About Morgenstern: Amazon and the libraries can't do the necessary research to find out that morgenstern, florin and guldern are fictious, so take the "abridged..." stuff from the book itself.

However, there is a Christian Morgenstern in German literature, who writes funny poems for children. Florin and Guldern seem to me europe-based as old currencies: Gulden was the old name, probably because it containded gold. Florin reminds me always of the italian city of florence. I strongly guess that somebody with the name of goldmann has german ancestors.

But both the book and the movie are great!


By ScottN on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 10:49 am:

When Westley and Inigo are fencing left-handed, both seem somewhat surprised when the other announces, "I am not left handed." However, both of them wear their scabbards on their left sides. Left handed people wear their scabbards on the right. Both of them, being excellent swordsmen, should have realized that the other was really right handed.


By ScottN on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 10:53 am:

Going WAAAAAAAAYYYYY back to Ally-cat's post of Tuesday, September 07, 1999 - 06:49 am,

That's from Westley, not from Vizzini.


By TrekGrrl on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 11:06 am:

Rugen: "What are you looking at?"
Westley: "You have six fingers on your right hand....someone was looking for you."


By Ranan Tarses on Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 8:05 pm:

Well I won't quote, but I will offer my nits.

1. It looks like Vizzini accidently poked the Princess Bwutter-Cup a little two hard right before the battle of wits._It looks like she has a little blood spot on the side of her neck in the following shots.

2. When Inigo Montoya and Westley are talkng about Indigo's future, Westley jumps and a second later Indigo jumps. THERES NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR FEZZIK TO CATCH BOTH OF THEM!!!

3. When Westley throws his sword into the grass and then jump/swings/flips, he doesn't land close enough to his sword yet in the next shot he is close enough to grab it.

4. When Westley chokes Fezzik and Fezzik falls down, watch where Fezzik's head is when Westley turns him over. In the close up it looks like Fezzik will hit his head on the Rock! But in the wide shot, his head is farther away from the rock.

5. Those suction cups can't be that bad, Westley doesn't have red circles all over his body afterwords.

6. When Westley is thrown down the hill by Bwutter-Cup you can clearly see it's not Westley but a stunt double.

7. When Fezzik is climbing the Cliffs of Insanity, look where Vizzini is in the harness. Now watch the shot of Fezzik reaching the top. (The view from where the rope is tied looking toward the edge), It looks like Vizzini would be crushed durning that scene.

8. So... The Dread Pirate Roberts did make exceptions_Westley still lives!

9. Westley must have had some tough training. He doesn't even make the slightest movement with his head when Fezzik throws the rock. I would expect him first see what the noise was.

10. So what was the logic for Vizzini's choice of where the wine was? Or am I just a Moron?


By Snick on Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:03 pm:

1. It looks like Vizzini accidently poked the Princess Bwutter-Cup a little two hard right before the battle of wits._It looks like she has a little blood spot on the side of her neck in the following shots.

This was also mentioned in the novel, so it's genuine and not a nit.

8. So... The Dread Pirate Roberts did make exceptions_Westley still lives!

SSSH! It's a SECRET! And I guess he was sufficently intrigued to let him live, at least 'until morning'.

10. So what was the logic for Vizzini's choice of where the wine was? Or am I just a Moron?

Vizzini made a fine bluster to demonstrate how smart he was, but in the end our favorite diminuative Sicilian was just enough of a moron himself to depend on the ol' switcheroo.


By Chris Diehl on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 2:22 am:

Way back at the start of the thread, Mike Ram was groping for who played Vizzini and Humperdinck. Vizzini was played by Wallace Shawn and Humperdinck was played by Chris Sarandon.

Florin and Guilder are both fictional countries, as several people said, but they are historical references. Florins were the currency of the city of Florence, Italy, and Guilders were, until recently, the currency of the Netherlands.

I can think of a whole bunch of quotes from this movie:

Impressive Clergyman: Mawwiage. Mawwiage is what bwings us, togeddah, today. Mawwiage, that bwessed awwangement, that dweam, within a dweam. .... So, tweasuh your wove, .... and Wove, twue Wove, shall follow you, foweveh.

Inigo: You seem a decent fellow. I hate to kill you.
Roberts: You seem a decent fellow. I hate to die.
Inigo: Begin.

Humperdinck: Surrender!
Westley: You're surrendering to us? Very well, I accept.

Westley: We know the secrets of the Fire Swamp. We can live there quite comfortably for some time, so whenever you feel like dying, please drop by.

Inigo: Who are you?
Roberts: No-one of consequence.
Inigo: I must know.
Roberts: Get used to disappointment.

Rugen: You've been chasing me all these years, only to fail now? I think that's the worst thing I've ever heard. How marvelous.

Miracle Max: True love is the greatest thing of all, except a nice MLT, mutton, lettuce and tomato, when the mutton's nice and lean, and the tomato's just right. It's so perky.

Humperdinck: You know how I love watching you work, but I've got my country's 500th anniversary to plan, my bride to murder, and Guilder to frame for it. I'm swamped.

Buttercup: Westley and I are joined by the bonds of love, and you cannot track that, not with a thousand bloodhounds, and you cannot break it, not with a thousand swords, and when I say you are a coward, it is only because you are the most spineless weakling ever to crawl the earth.

Inigo: Do not bother me with trifles. After 20 years, my father shall finally be avenged. There Will Be Blood Tonight!!

Humperdinck: My father's final words were: Love her as I have loved her, and there will be joy.

Roberts: Faithfulness, he spoke of, your enduring faithfulness. Now, tell me truly, when you found out, did you get engaged that same hour, or did you wait a whole week out of respect for the dead?

Westley: My brain, his steel and your strength against 60 men, and you think a little head jiggle's supposed to make me happy? Hmmmmmm?

Brute Squad Member: Ho There!
Inigo: I will not budge. Keep your Ho-there.

Inigo: Fezzik, jog his memory.
::Knocks out the Albino.::
Fezzik: I think I jogged it too hard.

Miracle Max: Oh, look who knows so much.

Vizzini: It's probably just some local fisherman out for a pleasure cruise, at night, in eel-infested waters.

Roberts: Next time, lady, my hand flies on its own. Where I come from, there are penalties when a woman lies.

Humperdinck: You had true love, so you might have been truly happy. Not one couple in a century has that, no matter what the storybooks say. So I think, no man in a century will suffer as you will.
::Turns the machine to 50, which is way more than 11 (please someone get the reference).::
Rugen: No! Not to 50!

Westley: There's a shortage of perfect breasts in the world. It would be a pity to damage yours.

Westley: That is what To The Pain means. I leave you in anguish, wallowing in freakish misery forever.

And my personal favorite:

Miracle Max: The King's stinking son fired me! And thank you for bringing up such a painful memory. Next time, why don't you just give me a nice paper cut, and pour lemon juice on it? We're closed!


By ScottN on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 8:34 am:

::Turns the machine to 50, which is way more than 11 (please someone get the reference).::

And who doesn't know Spinal Tap?


By Ranan Tarses on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 8:37 am:

How much does Fezzik weigh? I think it would be pretty hard to push Fezzik, and support Westley and light Fezzik.

Also when Fezzik, Indigo, and Westley are scoping the castle gate, isn't it strange that not one of the thirty(sixty?) men notices our heros on the castle catwalk.

So was the Albino killed by Fezzik?_you know sportsman like... I never read the book so I'm not sure.

I can't seem to figure out the purpose of the rope that Indigo and Westley swing on. And it has two spots on it that don't serve anything except to swing. I suspect a BILC!


By Chris Diehl on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 9:18 am:

ScottN, that is correct. Want to explain why I'd refer to Spinal Tap in this context, or should I?

Ranan, the only one of those questions I can think of an answer for is why the guards at the gate would not notice Fezzik, Inigo and Westley on the wall. They were probably all looking at the doors leading out of the courtyard where they were standing. They're a bunch of hired thugs, and mercenaries aren't big on taking unnecessary risks. Also, had they noticed them walking around up there, they might have assumed they were extra guards or lookouts. Either way, the group was not going out of its way to deal with what was on that wall; their job was just to stand in front of that gate, so that was all they were going to do.


By Darth Sarcasm on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 10:44 am:

Chris...

How can you post that great list of quotes and forget:

INIGO: My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.

And...

MIRACLE MAX: Have fun storming the castle!


By Chris Diehl on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 9:35 pm:

It's because they are the really obvious ones, and you just listed them. I'm just happy I got the Clergyman's speech down.


By Ranan Tarses on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 8:47 am:

More Nits.
Here they are:

11. Grampa opens the book to chapter 1 in the shot rom behind him, then in the next shot, he's opening it again this time a shot from in front of him.

12. Westley is known as the Dread Pirate Roberts. The only people to know that the Dread Pirate Roberts is actually Westley would be Bwutter-Cup and the previous Dread Pirate Roberts'. But in the scene where Prince Humperdink tells her that he will send out his four fastest ships to look for the Revenge, Bwutter-Cup says "It comes to this. I love Westley, and I always will..." The prince and the count should be asking who is Westley? because they only know him as the Dread Pirate Roberts.


By constanze on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 11:11 am:

Ranan, didn't Buttercup tell the prince right after the fire-swamp that westley isn't anybody special, just a childhood friend of hers, a simple sailor on Roberts ship? At least that's how its explained in the book. That's why she says to send out ships to look for the revenge: westley is on board the ship, as far as the prince knows.


By Chris Diehl on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 10:30 pm:

It happened in the movie as well. By that point, he had removed the mask. If she had told the prince that Westley and Roberts were one and the same, he would have simply kiled him then and there.


By Ranan Tarses on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:04 pm:

My nit was how does Humperdink know Westley? I agree about what Chris said, but I don't think that the prince should know that they are the same person. The big question is what did Westley tell them when he was attached to "The Machine."


By Starkist on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 1:49 pm:

He doesnn't know they're the same person. He only knows he's a pirate on the Revenge. Perhaps the Prince knows that this is Roberts' ship.


By Chris Diehl on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 8:55 pm:

It's possible that Humperdinck knows Westley's name, since he might have known Buttercup for a while. Remember, he asked her to marry him 5 years after Westley left, so they may have known each other for years before the proposal. She might well have talked about him a lot. How did he figure out that the nameless person who helped her through the Fire Swamp was the famous Westley? First, who else would Buttercup take such a magnificently huge risk with if not her One True Love? Second, he probably didn't buy her attempt to trick him into thinking he's just a random pirate who rescued her from Vizzini. Third, I think she mentions Westley by name when she demands he call off the wedding. She didn't correct him when he offered to send a message to the Revenge for him, so he put 2 and 2 together and went to the Pit of Despair to torture him on The Machine.

Also, it is very likely that the Prince knows that the Revenge is Roberts' ship, since the Dread Pirate Roberts is very famous, and people would know what ship to avoid so they don't die. The original Roberts might have let a few people live who told others the name of his ship and got his reputation going. He doesn't necessrily kill everyone on the ships he robs, he just never takes prisoners.


By Duke of Earl Grey on Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 11:36 pm:

6. When Westley is thrown down the hill by Butter-Cup you can clearly see it's not Westley but a stunt double.

Not only that, if you have the DVD, slow down the scene and you'll see that Buttercup is clearly a stunt double as well, and not just any stunt double, a man! (Probably the same guy who did Westley's stunt fall, doncha know.)


By Anonymous on Monday, August 04, 2003 - 9:16 pm:

Speaking of rolling, bumping, and thumping yourself as you role down the hill... What happened to Westley's sword? Surely that would hurt if he landed on it wrong. I don't have the DVD so I can't tell if it is still attached.


By Duke of Earl Grey on Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 3:02 am:

And speaking of Westley's sword, now that I've been reminded, during the sword fight Westley's scabbard is on the right side, not left side (sorry, ScottN; June 16, 2002). Inigo really should have supposed he was left-handed, after all.

Now for a nit similar to #3 by Ranan Tarses:
When Westley and Buttercup are both finished rolling down the hill, Buttercup has gone significantly farther down. The scene then cuts to Humperdink. When we cut back to Westley and Buttercup, they are now lying almost side by side and so close together that Westley merely has to crawl over a couple of steps to get to her.


By ScottN on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 8:45 am:

The Albino has eyes that are dark brown. A real albino wouldn't have eyes that dark.


By Sarah on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 7:53 pm:

Inigo- "Give us the gate key"
Guard- "I have no gate key"
Inigo- "Fezzik, tear his arms off"
Guard- "Oh, you mean THIS gate key!"


By Anonymous on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 8:35 pm:

I was watching this movie on Wifetime the other day, and I was wondering about something. Princess Bride and This is Spinal Tap were both directed by Rob Reiner. Christopher Guest plays characters in both, Nigel Tufnel in ST and Count Tyrone Rugen in PB, Nigel is obsessed with "11" in ST, the Count has 6 fingers on one hand, which gives him how many total fingers??? *11* coincidence? I don't think so.


By BrianA on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 9:16 pm:

The book was written before Spinal Tap, so it is indeed just a coincidence. ;)


By Anonymous on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 7:23 pm:

Yes, the book was written before Spinal tap, but do you think there was a reason Christopher Guest was cast in this role? Just makes me wonder.


By constanze on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 2:31 pm:

I don't know where else to put this, so here goes...

I just read a pocket book "Analog 4", containing short stories from the famous Analog magazine. One story, by Spider Robinson, Pyotr's story, has a character of ... Domingo Montoya, who's a wizard, which is a level above a master; he's been believed to be dead, because he was bothered by the rich, ignorant people with their wishes, and he can do the nearly impossible... A funny story - go and read it!


By Zarm Rkeeg on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 8:41 pm:

Fezik, on fire: Da dwed piwate Woberts leabs no subibows!

Captain Jack Sparrow, walking out of the shadows: Oh really? then where do all the stories come from, I wonder?


By Anonymous on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 6:22 pm:

Why does Westley cry after being d with the Machine set to only one??? Is he weak?


By Josh M on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 8:39 pm:

In the book, Westley is able to take all kinds of torture by "removing" his mind to other places/thoughts. The Count's machine, however, is so horrible that even at the first level, it's greater than the worst torture ever endured. Even Westley feels it.


By Fully trained former Padawan Nitpicker on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 7:24 am:

*11* coincidence? I don't think so.

11 = 4+7. *47* coincidence?

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I think so.


By Anonymous on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 12:00 pm:

You were not hired to think...


By ScottN (Scottn) on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 10:44 am:

Inconceivable!!!! I received the 20th
Anniversary Collectors Edition for the holidays!

Truly TrekGrrl has a dizzying intellect!


By ScottN (Scottn) on Sunday, December 28, 2014 - 9:25 am:

I have found a nit!

The grandson's bedroom is filled with Chicago sports memorabilia. HOWEVER.... There is both a Chicago Cubs pennant and a Chicago White Sox cap.

Such a thing is.... INCONCEIVABLE!!!! You are either a Cubs fan, or a White Sox fan. Not both.


By ScottN (Scottn) on Saturday, September 19, 2015 - 9:16 pm:

When Westley does his gymnastics spin on the bar and dismounts, he lands a foot or so in front of his sword. When the camera cuts to the front shot of him, he's even with his sword.


By ScottN (Scottn) on Saturday, September 19, 2015 - 9:22 pm:

Ah. I see that Ranan got that one as #3 on July 6 2003.


By ScottN (Scottn) on Wednesday, September 23, 2015 - 10:05 pm:

NANJAO... At the end of the fight between Inigo and Rugen, Rugens wounds are identical to Inigo's:


By ScottN (Scottn) on Sunday, March 01, 2020 - 10:58 am:

Continuity error:

In the Pit of Despair, the amount of blood on Westley's shoulder changes from shot to shot.


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