Shouldn't the Eugenics Wars be going on during the time Archer & T'Pol travel back to?
no, the Eugenics Wars were over when Kahn and the crew of the Botany Bay left Earth in 1996, 8 years earlier.
What Eugenics Wars...?
Sorry, I was off on the date. Still, it looks alot like our present time period, and not at all what it should look like in the Star Trek timeline. Also, in the episode of Voyager where the Dos gets his mobile emitter (I don't remember the title), the time the crew goes back to should be during the Eugenics Wars.
It is our present time period. What should 2004 look like in the Star Trek timeline?
Greg U: Also, in the episode of Voyager where the Dos gets his mobile emitter (I don't remember the title), the time the crew goes back to should be during the Eugenics Wars.
Luigi Novi: Future's End partII. That was set during that time period, but it has been speculated that the timeline was changed when the Aeon crash landed on Earth in the 1960's, and Henry Starling salvaged it, so that there were no Eugenics Wars.
Actually, author Greg Cox tackled the issue of the Eugenics Wars in two volumn novels that came out last year. The books were called The Eugenics Wars: The Rise and Fall of Khan Noonien Singh.
The premise was that the Eugenics Wars did happen in 1992-96, but most of the world didn't even know about it. Putting a kind of X-Files spin on things, Mr. Cox wrote that the Eugenics Wars were a secret war. While most of us were reading about Lorena Bobbit, Tanya and Nancy, and O.J., Khan and his followers were manipulating events from behind the scenes, such as the civil wars in Bosnia, Somolia, Afghanistan, etc.
Also appearing as major characters in this story are Gary Seven and Roberta Lincoln, from the TOS episode Assignment Earth. They play a big role in opposing Khan's plans.
This story basically answers the question why we didn't see any sign of the Eugenics Wars when the Voyager crew visited 1996, and why they weren't mentioned in Carpenter Street. The general public had no knowledge of them (sometime between now and the 23rd Century, the Eugenics Wars did become public knowledge, but the books never make clear when this happened, it's possible that Gary Seven and/or Roberta Lincoln allowed the information to become public knowledge at some point).
If you haven't read these two books yet, I highly recommend them.
Why would they be mentioned in Carpenter Street? That story took place in 2004, not 1996.
Richie, the next episodes after Damage will be The Forgotten, E2, The Council, Countdown and the season finale, Zero Hour.
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This comment is about E2. I would have submitted it there but the ADD A MESSAGE area wasn't there.
did anyone else notice a small problem in E2, when the desendants went through the corridor Mayweather had said "the stars look different..."
or something like that and that's when they realized something was wrong.
soooo. unless Mr. Mayweather had been there before how would he know anything was wrong?
or did I miss something else?
Gregg Easterbrook, whose best job is writing the Tuesday Morning Quaterback column on nfl.com, sometimes complains about "Enterprise". Here I copy that segment shamelessly:
This Week's Star Trek Complaint
The Enterprise crew believes that terrorists who bombed the Earth embassy on the planet Vulcan are hiding in a huge desert where electromagnetic storms cause all technology to fail. So Captain Archer and T'Pol, the Vulcan mega-babe, set out on foot, without weapons or radios -- and apparently carrying only one canteen -- to search a desert described as hundreds of miles across. Since they have no weapons or radio, what do they expect to do if they find the terrorists? It turns out the people hiding in the desert are reformers, not terrorists, and are being framed by the evil Vulcan government. How do Archer and T'Pol discover this? Because almost immediately after entering an expanse hundreds of miles across, they bump into the group's leader and he befriends them. What are the odds that two parties of people walking on foot would bump into each other in a desert the size of the Sahara? About the odds that two spaceships cruising the inexpressible enormity of the galaxy would cross each other's paths by chance, as happens constantly in science fiction.
Bonus Star Trek complaint: Though the episode takes place in a scorching desert, T'Pol wears a heavy uniform. Here the plot creates a perfectly legitimate reason for a mega-babe to disrobe, and no clothes are shed. Don't tell me that 150 years in the future, no one will want to gawk at mega-babes!
Bonus Star Trek analysis: TMQ dislikes the time-travel plots that have taken over the serial, time-travel being the most suspicious thing about science fiction. Ed Gedeon of Kokomo, Ind., recommends the book The Theory and Practice of Time Travel by Larry Niven, which concludes that time travel is highly improbable because even if possible on a physical basis, someone would use a time machine to go back into the past to prevent the invention of time travel.
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