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By JC on Sunday, March 21, 1999 - 11:28 am:

Anyone notice how James Horner likes to "borrow" some of his music from other films. For instance, there are sequences from "Star Trek II"'s soundtrack in "Aliens" and "Coccoon." And some of "Aliens" has popped up in "Patriot Games" and "Clear and Present Danger."


By Dude on Sunday, March 21, 1999 - 3:01 pm:

JC: Horner did the music for all those movies, so he's really borrowig from himself.


By JC on Sunday, March 21, 1999 - 3:34 pm:

Dude: Yeah, I know. I meant to say "from *his* other films".


By Brian Fitzgerald on Tuesday, March 30, 1999 - 10:32 pm:

In Titanic when Rose is hanging off the back of the ship as Jack is pulling her back up the music is very remenisant of Clear and Presant Danger. During some of Mighty Joe Young's LA chase scenes I half expected it to break full force into Clear and Presant Danger's music.


By cableface on Thursday, April 01, 1999 - 3:01 pm:

I'm not sure , but I remember thinking that 2010 contained music from another sci-fi film.i think it may have been Star trek 4.


By Charles Cabe (Ccabe) on Friday, April 02, 1999 - 3:21 pm:

Kirk must have messed up the past more than we thought! 2010 was released in 1984, but Star Trek IV wasn't released until 1986.


By D. Stuart on Saturday, April 03, 1999 - 11:33 am:

What I loathe most of all in regard to movie soundtracks--whether they be albums or scores--is that they shall sporadically include only an iota of the songs played during the course of the film. For example, I purchased the original score to the film Toys. I couldn't care less for the first ten songs of the soundtrack, though Thomas Dolby's "The Mirror Song" and Julia Migenes's "Alsatia's Lullaby" are quite captivating. I skipped ahead to the songs played during the pre- and post-conclusion of the final confrontation scene, as well as some music during this particular segment of the film. And to my surprise the only song it includes is the one in which Robin Williams's character is running away from the helicopter. You mean to tell me that they refuse to have the music that had played during LL Cool J's character's ride over to the Zevo dining house immediately following his discovery of his mother's death being caused by his father and that had played during the scene in which the toy plane, which is carrying both Robin Williams's and Michael Gambon's characters, crash-lands included on the soundtrack? What a gyp! I ought to write to Geffen, Twentieth Century Fox, and Robin Williams and demand acquisition of these two particular songs. This same dilemma applies to the film Virtuosity. Peter Gabriel's "Party Man" is included with a menagerie of other pop-related songs, but none of the score from the movie is anywhere to be found.
If anyone has ever inquired as to what song plays at the conclusion of the film The Chase, during which time Charlie Sheen's character is remaining in the car and reminiscing of prior events in the movie, it is Suede's "The Next Life." With that being said, please contact me via E-mail if you happen to possess the soundtrack to The Chase, a soundtrack pertaining to Suede, or both. My E-mail address is Ubiqtysync@pcpostal.com, and I thank you in advance.
I, personally, recommend you all listen Hans Zimmer's Broken Arrow score, John Powell's Face/Off score, Elia Cmiral's Ronin score, Ryuichi Sakamoto's Snake Eyes score, and Burkhard Dallwitz/Philip Glass's The Truman Show score, to name a few. I am the type individual that as a movie is unfolding before my very eyes, I take the time to listen to the music.


By JC on Monday, April 05, 1999 - 11:35 pm:

Does anyone know the expected release date of the soundtrack to the new Star Wars movie?


By Mike Konczewski on Tuesday, April 06, 1999 - 8:43 am:

I couldn't find any information on a soundtrack at either Amazon.com or the official Star Wars site. My guess is it'll be shorthly after the May 19th opening date.


By Info-Guy on Tuesday, April 06, 1999 - 3:25 pm:

SW:I Soundtrack available April 4th.


By MikeC on Tuesday, April 06, 1999 - 5:10 pm:

There are some scores you don't know are from a movie until you find out. Like "Chariots of Fire". Everybody knows the theme, but does everybody know it's from that movie?


By Mike Konczewski on Wednesday, April 07, 1999 - 8:09 am:

Sure do. The title ("Theme from 'Chariots of Fire'") is a dead give away.

Personally, I prefer the opening theme to "Men in Black" to Will Smith's pop-rap song (sorry for the abrupt segue).


By MikeC on Wednesday, April 07, 1999 - 5:38 pm:

Yes, but most of the time, the theme is used as incidental music elsewhere, without the title.


By JC on Thursday, April 08, 1999 - 1:58 pm:

Info-Guy: APRIL 4th? Or May 4th? I haven't been to the music store lately. I know the novelization and screenplay will be available in early May.


By JC on Thursday, April 08, 1999 - 1:59 pm:

A friend asked me this question, and I had no idea:

Who scored the music that accompanies the title logo for Dreamworks productions?


By Electron on Saturday, May 01, 1999 - 4:29 pm:

Lately I noticed big similarities between "Star Wars" and "Superman 1" (John Williams) and "Krull" and "Star Trek 2" (James Horner). After the first seconds of the soundtrack I guessed right the composer...


By JC on Sunday, May 16, 1999 - 11:11 pm:

OK. I've listened to The Phantom Menace soundtrack and was wondering if anyone knows whether the chanting on the soundtrack are actual words or not. If so, are they in English? In Latin? In some alien tongue? And, of course, does anyone have an actual transcript of the words (if they are that)?


By Nathan K. on Monday, May 17, 1999 - 10:55 pm:

I believe they are in Sanskrit (not because I recognize them but because I read about the soundtrack on a Star Wars site).


By D. Stuart on Sunday, May 23, 1999 - 8:42 pm:

If anyone who enters this section reads this, then please contact me via E-mail (Ubiqtysync@pcpostal.com). I seek to acquire original score from such movies as Conspiracy Theory, Great Expectations, Gattaca, Bean: The Movie, Bulworth: The Score, The Mask: The Score, Armageddon: The Score, and Batman Returns. I am willing to exchange for and accept these requested scores, and I shall indicate which melodies I strive to acquire. Again, my E-mail address is Ubiqtysync@pcpostal.com and these are the scores of which I endeavor to have possession.
P.S. I also have an AOL account under the same screen name (i.e., Ubiqtysync) as I do for my MOE and NitCentral accounts. I am providing this information so as to cause the method of communication to be that much more convenient.


By D. Stuart on Sunday, May 30, 1999 - 8:54 pm:

For whomever possesses the score to the film Star Wars: The Phantom Menace, I bear a question. Does the score include the music that played during the lightsaber conflict among Qui-Gon Jinn, Obi-Wan Kenobi, and Darth Maul? Furthermore, does anyone happen to already have possession of this particular score and would be willing to exchange songs? If you wish to answer either of the above inquiries, then please contact me at Ubiqtysync@pcpostal.com, or of course my AOL account under the same screen name (i.e., Ubiqtysync).


By D. Stuart on Wednesday, June 02, 1999 - 1:12 pm:

I ought to indicate that it is Great Expectations: The Score from which I wish to derive songs, not the album version. While I am on the topic, perhaps it would be wise to make notice of how I seek to acquire songs from the movie scores Twelve Monkeys, Star Wars: The Return of the Jedi, and Sphere: The Score. Thank you.


By Al Fix on Friday, June 04, 1999 - 3:55 pm:

Which do you prefer, a soundtrack loaded with current tunes playing on the radio or MTV, or a symphonic score (if they both exist in the same movie, that is)? The only one that did this successfully (and released both versions of the music) was Heavy Metal. First, there's a hard-driving, head-banging, metal album, then there's the sweeping symphonic album. They WERE available on vinyl and I know the rock version is available on CD.

Personally I'm a little leery of any movie that advertises its songs instead of the actors that are actually in it.


By James on Friday, June 04, 1999 - 4:17 pm:

Forrest Gump had 2 soundtracks, and I enjoy both of them.:=)


By Adam Howarter on Friday, June 04, 1999 - 11:23 pm:

Yes the music that played during the final fight is on the sound track. Its called "Duel of the Fates." :)
On the :( side they didn't put the Darth Vader breathing at the end of "Anakin's theme" like they did in the movie.
Err. If we're gonna talk about movie sound tracks were do we put "The Wall?"


By D. Stuart on Friday, July 02, 1999 - 4:20 pm:

...recommend you all listen Hans Zimmer's Broken Arrow score... = ...recommend you all listen [to] Hans Zimmer's Broken Arrow score... Typo. By the way, I have purchased the Star Wars: The Phantom Menace score and thus no longer require for anyone to make it available to me via E-mail attachment. However, my other requests and proposals still stand.


By Douglas Nicol on Saturday, September 18, 1999 - 7:13 pm:

I quite liked the film soundtrack to 'Dune'. It was done by Toto except for the 'Prophecy' theme by Brian Eno. For a change in a film soundtrack all the music was easily placed in the film. The worst example of placing music from a soundtrack into a film in my experience was 'Top Gun'.
The 'Metropolis' soundtrack is also nice, done when the film was colourised.


By Merat on Wednesday, October 06, 1999 - 1:35 am:

If you turn the volume WAY up on your CD of The Phantom Menace you can hear Vader's breathing. I also like the way The Imperial March is worked into it.


By MikeC on Saturday, October 09, 1999 - 4:37 pm:

MY TOP MOVIE THEMES

*The 20th Century Fox Fanfare
*Star Wars--Main Theme, Imperial March, Cantina Song, and the Original Jabba the Hutt Song Thing
*Raiders of the Lost Ark--Main Theme, the Desert Chase, and from the Last Crusade--the Motorcycle Chase
*North By Northwest
*Psycho--The Murder
*The Great Escape
*The Bridge on the River Kwai--The Bogey March
*The Godfather--Main Theme and Love Theme
*Rocky
*Star Trek: The Motion Picture
*Fiddler on the Roof--Sunrise, Sunset
*The James Bond Theme
*The Magnificent Seven
*The Third Man
*Chariots of Fire
*Batman
*Superman


By D. Stuart on Thursday, December 23, 1999 - 12:27 pm:

...played during the pre- and post-conclusion of the final confrontation scene... = ...played during the [pre-conclusion] and post-conclusion of the final confrontation scene... Typo. ...that had played during the scene in which the toy plane... = ...[the music] that had played during the scene in which the toy plane... Typo.

Sphere's score, although I am sure it to be titillative, is right up there with the score to Home Fries and The Arrival respectively. Thus, they are not of tremendous or immediate concern. However, I now seek scores from The Man with One Red Shoe, Meet Joe Black, The Replacement Killers, The Sixth Sense, A View to a Kill, and GoldenEye. In addition, Christopher Young is responsible for the score to Virtuosity. Do most music stores provide CD's of composer compilations, such as Danny Elfman's Music for a Darkened Theater?

MikeC, The Godfather's love theme ought to be Pietro Mascagni's "Cavalleria Rusticana." There are equally poignant and titivating songs, such as Johann S. Pachelbel's "Canon in D," which is the score to the film version of Ordinary People, Ludwig Van Beethoven's "Moonlight Sonata," Samuel Barber's "Adagio for Strings," which was the score for the movie Platoon, and track number one (Can Te Partire) on Andrea Bocelli's Romanza soundtrack, whose instrumental segment is played in various Roberto Benigni movies whenever his character encounters his wife's character.


By D. Stuart on Wednesday, December 29, 1999 - 9:37 am:

Armageddon: The Score does not include the music played during the crash-landing of Independence (i.e., the shuttle containing A. J. and the Russian cosmonaut). Ooh, this acquisition of scores is frustrating. Why can the composers not simply have every melody presented in the movie on the movie's corresponding soundtrack? Otherwise, they ought to not have the melody at all! First with Toys, then with Virtuosity, and now with Armageddon.


By Josh G. on Saturday, February 12, 2000 - 6:46 pm:

If you guys really want to discuss soundtracks, I suggest you visit Filmtracks or my own site The ScoreRealm.

Anyway, I love film music and at present have around 65 orchestral soundtracks. However, I have to take issue with the taste of some of you. Recommending Face/Off!!??? I suggest you try some of John Williams work for the Star Wars Trilogy, Jurassic Park, ET, Indiana Jones, and all his other great scores. Or you might try Jerry Goldsmith. I'm sure his Star Trek scores will interest you as well as his action scores for The Mummy and many others. As for James Horner, check out Willow, Braveheart, or The Land Before Time.

If you'd ever like to acquire CDRs or mp3s of, say, the Star Wars scores, drop me a line.


By Anonymous on Monday, October 02, 2000 - 8:20 pm:

I'm making a prediction right now. X-Men will be nominated at the 2001 Oscars for Best Dramatic Score.

Sax.


By cableface on Monday, January 15, 2001 - 3:17 pm:

Does anyone know the name of the piece of the music played during the second half of the first Lord Of The Rings preview trailer, released back in April?Is it available anywhere, or was it written specifically for the film?


By Adam Bomb on Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 10:51 am:

There was a CD (I have it) of the music composed by Alex North for 2001.


By D. Stuart on Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 1:21 pm:

In addition to Star Wars: The Phantom Menace and Armageddon: The Score, I have purchased the CD's Twelve Monkeys and Great Expectations: The Score. However, my list of desired scores continues to grow. For example, I also seek music from A View to a Kill.

I hereby announce my efforts to urge movie score composers to release each song for which they are responsible, regardless of its inclusion on the actual film's score or on a special edition compilation of a variety of their songs (e.g., Danny Elfman's Music for a Darkened Theater). I am doing this by inaugurating a petition on which we place accordingly and proudly our separate, unique John Hancocks. This petition, in my opinion, shall be in the form of subsequent posts and shall bear the legitimate identities, aliases, and/or pseudonyms of this forum's attendants. Our voices must be heard!

As mentioned in previous posts of mine, the Toys soundtrack lacks the songs played during L. L. Cool Jay's character's realization of his mother's true cause of death and the total shutdown of Michael Gough's character's belligerent toy-masked operations via a mini-rocket obliterating the large black mobile transponder robots, Armageddon: The Score having minus the songs during the one shuttle's crash-landing onto the asteroid and, in recent news, another marvelous song played during the end credits immediately after Aerosmith's "I Don't Want to Miss a Thing," and the movie Virtuosity simply not having a corresponding soundtrack appropriately with the score used in the film. Apropos of Virtuosity, Christopher Young modified Peter Gabriel's "Party Man" into the score we hear. However, again, there is no Virtuosity score.

What primarily inspired my decision to support and encourage the notion of such a petition is the fact that I am receiving a CD containing Scully's Theme from "The X-Files' " episodes "Within" and "Without," which, if in fact part of the TV show's score, ought to not be available to the public, or at least not available for a certain duration. Yet, I shall soon be listening to it on my very own CD.

Aside from the key intent of this post--and to just reassuringly notify you all ahead of time, I am concluding this post with extraneous material--I suggest everyone attain Craig Armstrong's "Escape," which has been used as trailer music for the movies The Patriot, Romeo Must Die, and Quills and the TV show James Cameron's "Dark Angel," as well as apparently included on the soundtrack to the movie Plunkett & Macleane.


By Amateur Composer on Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 10:06 am:

This seems like the place to address this question:

I have the original release of the "Phantom Menace" soundtrack, and recently heard about the new, extended version. Does anyone know if this new version is any good? I was thinking of buying the new version and selling my old one, and I don't want to get screwed over, again.


By Josh G. on Monday, March 26, 2001 - 11:32 am:

The new two-CD "Ultimate Edition" released by Sony includes all the music from The Phantom Menace used in the film. It's worth getting, I think, though I would hold on to the OST, as this new version can be a bit choppy at times (due to the last-minute editing of the movie).


By Amateur Composer on Monday, March 26, 2001 - 1:00 pm:

Thanks for the advice, Josh. It's nice to know that there are actually some people, who will read/respond to questions, like that.


By Derf on Thursday, April 26, 2001 - 5:25 am:

The author of the theme music for the movie Stargate must have been paying tribute to Tchaikovsky, because it sounds very much like the section of The Nutcracker Suite titled Journey Through the Snow.


By Josh G. on Saturday, May 05, 2001 - 10:12 pm:

That would be David Arnold who composed Stargate.

He's no James Horner, though, who borrowed an entire developed theme from Schumann's 3rd Symphony for Willow.


By MarkN on Sunday, May 27, 2001 - 6:41 pm:

I haven't listened to James Horner's musical scores enough to recognize any similiarities to other of his works. Well, maybe a tad here or there, it seems to come to me, but I can't cite any particulars.

As for searching for all the titles above this is why Napster should've been allowed to continue without any interference whatsoever!


By Clueless Joe on Tuesday, May 29, 2001 - 9:48 pm:

You know who REALLY ripped off a good bit of music? The guy who composed the music to The Phantom Menace, thats who! Parts of it are lifted WHOLE from these great movies, Star Wars and its sequels.


By Brian Fitzgerald on Wednesday, May 30, 2001 - 10:13 pm:

If you listen to enough of a composer's work you will find bits where they repeat themselves from other movies. James Horner is frequently brought up in these discussions (In titanic when Rose falls off the back of the ship I heard some Clear and Presant Danger) but also Jerry Goldsmith (In Small Soldiers their are a few places where you can hear what sounds like some Rambo music.) Hans Zimmer (Bad Boys, The Rock)


By Adam Bomb on Thursday, November 15, 2001 - 9:08 am:

John Williams repeated himself in his 1974 scores for "Earthquake" and "Towering Inferno." Maybe as both films were released only a month apart, he had no time to differentiate himself.


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